No, Biden didn’t take FEMA relief money to use on migrants — but Trump did

[BPPLEE]

I thought you said 1 billion. Why not show us the numbers and the links to check on them?

(some other republican politicians say an anti-immigrant group says so, ,but they present no evidence)

Pretty much what we expected.

New York City has surpassed $5 billion in spending on the two-year migrant crisis

Legal migrants? I think you've lost your focus here.


Because some Trumpster politician says so? But no evidence presented. Pretty much expected.

When you get some checkable evidence, come on back and show us, hear?

Which cites went bankrupt? Don't remember that. Checkable links?



No evidence that any city went bankrupt. Just some Trump-style "truthful hyperbole?" No surprise there.

The Cost of the Border Crisis: $150.7 Billion and Counting | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee​

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

I'll take their word on this. What have you got?

 

[FreeinChrist]

The Cost of the Border Crisis: $150.7 Billion and Counting | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee​

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

I'll take their word on this. What have you got?

What does this have to do with the disaster fund?

 

[BPPLEE]

What does this have to do with the disaster fund?

We were talking about the cost of migrants there.
What does the border wall have to do with the disaster fund ?

 

[FreeinChrist]

Nothing really. But I guess the thread is taking a turn now.

 

[Valletta]

Apparently some forget that Biden had 81,000,000 votes, the highest ever, in 2020.

The reason Harris was able to raise $1 billion since mid July and was so quickly accepted , I think, is because of the horror at the thought of another Trump presidency. He wants revenge, she wants to move forward. Trump focuses on hate and hurting others, while she wants to do things FOR people.

It's far more the name-calling and accusations against Trump than anything that Trump has actually done. Trump is an outsider who is not ready to accept government corruption.

 

[The Barbarian]

It's far more the name-calling and accusations against Trump than anything that Trump has actually done.

He is a convicted criminal, of course. Found guilty on a number of felony counts. I know...

"THE JURY WAS ALL LYING!!"

He's been found to have convicted sexual assault, and of course he settled out of court after defrauding hundreds of people who trusted him in his fake "Trump University" scam.

There's more. Do we need to show more?

 

[The Barbarian]

Trump is an outsider who is not ready to accept government corruption.

A Guide to Trump Allies Who've Pleaded Guilty or Been Convicted of Crimes

Longtime Trump Organization executive Allen Weisselberg is the latest, pleading guilty on Thursday to 15 felonies.

www.newsweek.com

He didn't merely "accept" it. He enthusiastically took part in it.

 

[Valletta]

A Guide to Trump Allies Who've Pleaded Guilty or Been Convicted of Crimes

Longtime Trump Organization executive Allen Weisselberg is the latest, pleading guilty on Thursday to 15 felonies.

www.newsweek.com

He didn't merely "accept" it. He enthusiastically took part in it.

Took part in trying to get rid of corrupt government employees. We have a number in the Biden/Harris administration who lied about the border and also many colluded with social media to see that Biden was elected. They fear being held accountable.

 

[The Barbarian]

Took part in trying to get rid of corrupt government employees.

Trump pardoned many of them. How is that "getting rid of them?"

We have a number in the Biden/Harris administration who lied about the border

And when they were charged, what were the charges? And if you consider lying to be corruption wouldn't you be furious with Trump? Even his supporters admit he's a habitual liar.

and also many colluded with social media to see that Biden was elected.

You think that's a crime? People coordinate political campaigns on social media constantly. Trump is one of the biggest users.

They fear being held accountable.

Be patient. The law already got him once. Sentencing is coming up. And now the SCOTUS has O.K.ed further prosecution of Trump for other crimes he did.

 

[A2SG]

It's far more the name-calling and accusations against Trump than anything that Trump has actually done. Trump is an outsider who is not ready to accept government corruption.

Nah, he'd rather privatize it for his own benefit.

-- A2SG, or it could be simply that he dislikes the competition.....

 

[Valletta]

What does this have to do with the disaster fund?

In my opinion FEMA funds never should have been funneled to use for immigrants. The Biden administration did that long before the hurricane.

 

[Valletta]

You think that's a crime? People coordinate political campaigns on social media constantly. Trump is one of the biggest users.

It's against the law to use taxpayer money for political purposes. And that's exactly what happened, federal government agencies, on the taxpayer's time, contacted social media in order to put out fake stories so Joe could win the election. We have a two-tiered justice system and that needs to change.

 

[FreeinChrist]

In my opinion FEMA funds never should have been funneled to use for immigrants. The Biden administration did that long before the hurricane.

Please go back and read.

CONGRESS created the Shelter and Services Fund and have it under FEMA, and it is separate from the Disaster Fund. Congress funds the Disaster Fund.

Trump lied when he claimed that Biden took money from the FEMA Disaster Fund to help migrants.

 

[FreeinChrist]

It's against the law to use taxpayer money for political purposes. And that's exactly what happened, federal government agencies, on the taxpayer's time, contacted social media in order to put out fake stories so Joe could win the election. We have a two-tiered justice system and that needs to change.

Proof?

We have a two-tiered justice system because otherwise Trump would be in jail.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Took part in trying to get rid of corrupt government employees. We have a number in the Biden/Harris administration who lied about the border and also many colluded with social media to see that Biden was elected. They fear being held accountable.

Trump moved out decent people and put in Cabinet ministers who were wasteful with taxpayer money. He created the swamp he whined about.

 

[Hans Blaster]

In my opinion FEMA funds never should have been funneled to use for immigrants. The Biden administration did that long before the hurricane.

It's not actually in the FEMA section of the Budget. It is in the CBP part, but FEMA manages it because they are used to doing humanitarian work and CBP mostly does the opposite.

 

[Valletta]

It's not actually in the FEMA section of the Budget. It is in the CBP part, but FEMA manages it because they are used to doing humanitarian work and CBP mostly does the opposite.

They are using personnel from FEMA according to Mayorkas. Don't at least the FEMA salaries for FEMA personnel come out of the FEMA section of the budget? Here is a clip from a White House briefing on May 11, 2023:

MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Go ahead, Nancy.

Q Thank you very much, Secretary Mayorkas. You talked about all the personnel that you’re surging to the border. You didn’t mention FEMA personnel. And the mayors and county judges in border towns that we’ve spoken to say that what they really need is not just FEMA dollars but FEMA personnel themselves to house and feed these migrants as your department releases them.

Why not send FEMA personnel to the border the way you would in any other emergency?

SECRETARY MAYORKAS: Well, the — the deployment of FEMA personnel is specific to a particular type of emergency, an emergent event. This is an ongoing challenge that, quite frankly, has vexed this country for decades, because this country has been unable — Congress has been unable to pass immigration reform that everyone agrees and understands is desperately needed.

We are working with an immigration system that was last reformed in the 1990s. Migration has changed dramatically since then, and we need our laws updated.

Q So are you saying that basically your hands are tied and you can’t send FEMA personnel even if you wanted to?

SECRETARY MAYORKAS: No, I’m — I’m not saying that at all. And, as a matter of fact, our FEMA personnel are coordinating with local communities and cities across the country to provide them with the information they need. And FEMA is going to be playing a pivotal role in our Shelter and Services Program that is poised to distribute $363 million to cities and communities in need of funding.

Press Briefing by Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre and Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas | The White House

James S. Brady Press Briefing Room 1:10 P.M. EDT MS. JEAN-PIERRE: All right. Good afternoon, everybody. Q Good

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[Valletta]

He is a convicted criminal, of course. Found guilty on a number of felony counts. I know...

"THE JURY WAS ALL LYING!!"

He's been found to have convicted sexual assault, and of course he settled out of court after defrauding hundreds of people who trusted him in his fake "Trump University" scam.

There's more. Do we need to show more?

Trump mentioned at the Al Smith dinner that he predicted that the government would also go after Democrat Eric Adams (as they did Trump) because he dared oppose Biden/Harris on migrants and sure enough they are going after Adams as well. Kamala wasn't there to respond (Trump said he understood the real reason she wasn't there was that she and Walz were off hunting.)

 

[Valletta]

Trump moved out decent people and put in Cabinet ministers who were wasteful with taxpayer money. He created the swamp he whined about.

The swamp was there long before Trump got involved in politics. I've personally complained, to Congress and the Executive branch, and there is virtually no accountability in the federal government.

 

[The Barbarian]

Trump mentioned at the Al Smith dinner that he predicted that the government would also go after Democrat Eric Adams (as they did Trump) because he dared oppose Biden/Harris on migrants and sure enough they are going after Adams as well.

The question is whether or not Adams and Trump committed crimes. With the far right, that's secondary to politics. A crook is O.K. if he's on message as far as they are concerned. Trump's already a convicted felon, and the worst is still coming.

So we'll see how that shakes out.