Do Protestants believe in the Ten Commandments?

[Eila]

I disagree, morality is intimately linked to selfish acts as is any sin. God set aside the Sabbath as a holy day for communion with His Divine nature and to not only rest our bodies physically but spiritually as well. If we turn away from that commandment for selfish reasons then we are going against the will of God which makes it immoral and a sin.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

What selfish reasons are people espousing here? Are you not promoting circumcision because you are selfish? Are you not wearing tassels on your clothing because you are selfish? Are you not keeping the feasts because you are selfish?

Everyday is a Sabbath with God. We don't need one day a week to commune with His divine nature. He is in us and we are in Him.

Galatians 2:20 "20I have been crucified with Christ [in Him I have shared His crucifixion]; it is no longer I who live, but Christ (the Messiah) lives in me; and the life I now live in the body I live by faith in (by adherence to and reliance on and complete trust in) the Son of God, Who loved me and gave Himself up for me."

 

[Jimlarmore]

What selfish reasons are people espousing here? Are you not promoting circumcision because you are selfish? Are you not wearing tassels on your clothing because you are selfish? Are you not keeping the feasts because you are selfish?

Everyday is a Sabbath with God. We don't need one day a week to commune with His divine nature. He is in us and we are in Him.

Galatians 2:20 "20I have been crucified with Christ [in Him I have shared His crucifixion]; it is no longer I who live, but Christ (the Messiah) lives in me; and the life I now live in the body I live by faith in (by adherence to and reliance on and complete trust in) the Son of God, Who loved me and gave Himself up for me."

1 John 3:4 says that sin is the transgression of the law then goes on to list two of the ten commandments and calls them "the law of liberty." To comit sin one has to act in a selfish way, ,,,,, always. It was selfishness and pride that caused Lucifer to sin and become satan. The ceremonial laws like circumcision and sacrifices of Israel were nailed to the cross and were a shadow of things to come . However, the law of liberty or the ten commandments are like a mirror pointing us to the cross where we can receive grace and pardon for our sins. To ascribe to the idea that the law is done away with is to also ascribe to grace being gone and done away with. Grace is only necessary if the law is broken and sin exists. One cannot exist without the other.

The Sabbath was instituted before sin entered the world in Eden and it will be here in the new heavens and new earth after sin is gone read Isa 66:22-23. God wants us to celebrate the 7th day Sabbath as a sign of loyalty to Him. He also commanded us to work for six days, not that we can't worship Him on other days but only one day is the Shabbot.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

 

[PETE_]

I do agree that God wants His people to rest one day in seven. However the Bible clearly teaches that not all will be convicted that what is sin for one may not be sin for another. I cannot tell how another is being convicted by the Spirit, so I may not know if they are in sin or not.
I myself, have never felt convicted that my worship on Sunday was wrong, though I have been convicted for not setting aside that time for Him. We should all be sensitive to His leading, but confident that we are under grace and therefore free from the penalty of the law. It is more important to know Christ than to follow the law perfectly.Trying to be perfect will not help us know Christ, but knowing Him will change us and make us more like Him.

 

[freeindeed2]

The new covenant says God puts His laws which are the ten commandments intimately into our hearts. So they are just as much in force as they ever were. Can we keep the ten commandments? To say no means we are denying the power of Christ in our lives. Yes we can keep them with the power of Christ but if it's not perfectly then the grace He gives us will cover us. However, when we sin we are to confess our sin and repent of it. There is a huge difference between an occasional fall or slip and turning away completely. To say the law is done away with is not only not Biblical it's heresy. Those who will be ready to meet the Lord when He comes back will be those who keep the commandments of God.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

One question Jim. Do you keep and obey the basic 10 commandments? If not, then you are guilty of breaking the entire law, which means you deserve death.

Why does it sound like you turn to the law for your justification? Righteousness comes from Jesus, not from law keeping. The new covenant is not the old covenant, the hear of which is the 10 commandments, also known as the ministration of death (2 Cor. 3). It condems us.

That's why we must die with Christ in order that we are released from the law, so we can be raised with him and joined to another (Christ himself), Rom. 7. Why would we want to die to the law only to be married to it again and Christ at the same time. That's spiritual adultery.

If you actually keep the law, you might have a leg to stand on. But since I know you don't (because no one is good, not even one), you're in the same boat the rest of humanity is in. We are all sinners in need of a Savior. Jesus is that Savior, not the law that can only condemn us. Accept his works and his righteousness.

 

[Jimlarmore]

I do agree that God wants His people to rest one day in seven. However the Bible clearly teaches that not all will be convicted that what is sin for one may not be sin for another. I cannot tell how another is being convicted by the Spirit, so I may not know if they are in sin or not.
I myself, have never felt convicted that my worship on Sunday was wrong, though I have been convicted for not setting aside that time for Him. We should all be sensitive to His leading, but confident that we are under grace and therefore free from the penalty of the law. It is more important to know Christ than to follow the law perfectly.Trying to be perfect will not help us know Christ, but knowing Him will change us and make us more like Him.

I agree totally, however, I feel the more we know Him the more we will want to please Him. Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. We don't keep the commandments to be saved we keep them by His grace and love because we are saved. There is a big difference. The law could never save anyone but the law will certainly condemn us if we intentionally break it claiming it's no longer in effect.

This idea of it's ok to break the law of God because we are under grace is pointed out very well in Jude 4 "For there are certain men crept in unawares who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of God into lasciviousness and denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ." Lasciviousness is translated as a license to sin.

Satan knows the only thing that will keep us out of the kingdom is sin. This idea of grace abolishing the law of God leads us right back into the sin Christ died to save us from. Additionally, when we say no one can ever keep the law of God we are denying the power of God's Son to cleanse us from all unrighteousness 1 John 1:9. We can never keep the law for salvation but if we are saved we should rather die than to intentionally comit sin against our creator.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

 

[Eila]

1 John 3:4 says that sin is the transgression of the law then goes on to list two of the ten commandments and calls them "the law of liberty."

Where in 1 John 3 does it list two of the 10 commandments and then go on to call them the "law of liberty"?

 

[Jimlarmore]

Where in 1 John 3 does it list two of the 10 commandments and then go on to call them the "law of liberty"?

Sorry I made a mistake. 1 Joh 3 makes mention of the commandments of God and Jesus and that they are love and belief in Jesus Christ and love for one another. Basically this is a repeat of what Christ said when He said to love God with all of your heart and your neighbor as yourself this is the whole law of God. In other words this is a summation of the ten commandments. The law of liberty is found in James 2:10-12 where it mentions committing adultery and murder which are two of the ten commandments and then saying in context to these verses that this is the law of liberty that we will be judged by.

God Bless
Jim Larmore