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Hmm....

Well basically to give you the short version. I gave my life to jesus about 2 years ago. Last september my pastor left taking half the church congregation with him. Including two of my best mates who now hate me. My life didn't seem worth living. Started to cut myself, didn't eat etcetc.

Didn't pray for about 6 months, no joke. Still attended church and made out everything was fine. Went to soul survivor (Christian festival) in the summer of this year. Kinda sorted myself out but the screwed up again and haven't been at all good since.

I don't have a clue where i stand with God at the moment. Everytime I try and pray i find myself doubting that there is even anyone listening and the i can hear satan laughing at me. I don't know what to do:help:
 

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WhereareyouGod? said:
Hmm....

Well basically to give you the short version. I gave my life to jesus about 2 years ago. Last september my pastor left taking half the church congregation with him. Including two of my best mates who now hate me. My life didn't seem worth living. Started to cut myself, didn't eat etcetc.

Didn't pray for about 6 months, no joke. Still attended church and made out everything was fine. Went to soul survivor (Christian festival) in the summer of this year. Kinda sorted myself out but the screwed up again and haven't been at all good since.

I don't have a clue where i stand with God at the moment. Everytime I try and pray i find myself doubting that there is even anyone listening and the i can hear satan laughing at me. I don't know what to do:help:
Confess sin, forsake it, repent of your unfaithfulness, and turn back to Christ in faith. And once you do (confess Him as Lord of your life), don't forget Christ's words; "Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord' and do not the things I tell you?" With your belief will come obedience to His commands and example, and doubt doesn't fit very well in there.

:) God bless
 
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You are at a very difficult age to have something like that happen to you. I'm so sorry that man's politics can destroy what God is doing. Pray and ask God to lead you to a better church. Without the support of other Christians, you're going to have a very tough time.
 
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WhereareyouGod? said:
Hmm....

Well basically to give you the short version. I gave my life to jesus about 2 years ago. Last september my pastor left taking half the church congregation with him. Including two of my best mates who now hate me. My life didn't seem worth living. Started to cut myself, didn't eat etcetc.

Didn't pray for about 6 months, no joke. Still attended church and made out everything was fine. Went to soul survivor (Christian festival) in the summer of this year. Kinda sorted myself out but the screwed up again and haven't been at all good since.

I don't have a clue where i stand with God at the moment. Everytime I try and pray i find myself doubting that there is even anyone listening and the i can hear satan laughing at me. I don't know what to do:help:
Ok, First off everyone makes mistakes big or small we all make them. You just have to pick yourself up and press onward. And trust me, I know where you're coming from! I was in a very similar situation about a year ago and have been the process of recovering from the sin. I basically really messed up and started to do stuff that I knew was wrong but I managed to get it right. And since the inital relization of the problem, I have fallen just as you have. Remember that He forgives all adn He's there to help. I had to tell myself that so many times. Don't loose faith or the devil has won. Rely on Him and it'll get better. Promise!

"Cast you cares onto the Lord and he will sustain you;
He will never let the rightous fall" Psalms 55:22
 
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WhereareyouGod? said:
Hmm....

Well basically to give you the short version. I gave my life to jesus about 2 years ago. Last september my pastor left taking half the church congregation with him. Including two of my best mates who now hate me. My life didn't seem worth living. Started to cut myself, didn't eat etcetc.

Didn't pray for about 6 months, no joke. Still attended church and made out everything was fine. Went to soul survivor (Christian festival) in the summer of this year. Kinda sorted myself out but the screwed up again and haven't been at all good since.

I don't have a clue where i stand with God at the moment. Everytime I try and pray i find myself doubting that there is even anyone listening and the i can hear satan laughing at me. I don't know what to do:help:

Hi WhereareyouGod,

I get the impression that your being very hard on yourself. Your holding yourself up to a very high standard and trying to achieve that standard in your own strength. You can't do it in your own strength, and you have be patient and wait. They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength. When you fail in your own strength you equate that with failure by God, or failure in yourself, or failure in others. You are having issues with waiting and being patient for the change.

I imagine you have heards the words spoken, "..now there is no condemnation". There is no condemnation on God's part for you, since you have been covered by the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross. A difficulty with many people is that they are quite happy with God no longer condemning them, but they can't quite stop condemning themselves. God does forgive you. It's important to forgive yourself, too. It's also important to forgive others that trespass against you. Forgive the Pastor that left, forgive the friends that now hate you, and most importantly forgive yourself, after you have sought forgiveness from God. You have repented in the past and turned away from sin and the condemnation of sin. What is occuring now is you have once more returned to allowing sin to condemn you. Turn away from that condemnation.

Remember also that even when noone else loves you, God always love you. In your moments of despair, believe with all your heart that God loves you for who you are, whether that is good or bad. You want acceptance and belonging. God accepts you, forgives you and wants your love. Forgive yourself and others now. Love people for their faults as well as their virtues. Love yourself for you faults as well as your virtues. God wants to love you, so you can learn to love yourself and in doing so, the Spirit can do its work to change and transform you, but its slow and, and your patience is lacking. Don't strive with yourself, just wait, and trust that it will happen. Waiting is something, if I remember correctly, I found very hard to do when I was your age.

Your cry, Where are you God? is a cry that was heard on the cross too. Jesus cried out the same thing. Why have you forsaken me?, he cried. Or in some transalations, it says, Why have you turned away from me? In our greatest moments of suffering we all find it hard to see God and Jesus was no exception. He died not long after that cry, but was brought back to life, and in the same way, life will return to you, and God will once more be evident in your life. Why should you be finding it any less difficult than Jesus? Your being too hard on yourself. :)

God bless you and keep you,

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WhereareyouGod? said:
Hmm....

Well basically to give you the short version. I gave my life to jesus about 2 years ago. Last september my pastor left taking half the church congregation with him. Including two of my best mates who now hate me. My life didn't seem worth living. Started to cut myself, didn't eat etcetc.

Didn't pray for about 6 months, no joke. Still attended church and made out everything was fine. Went to soul survivor (Christian festival) in the summer of this year. Kinda sorted myself out but the screwed up again and haven't been at all good since.

I don't have a clue where i stand with God at the moment. Everytime I try and pray i find myself doubting that there is even anyone listening and the i can hear satan laughing at me. I don't know what to do:help:
Well I've been there to some point. I ran off to church and got saved when I was 12. As a teen I not only had a hard time with my family because they didn't approve of me being a Christian, but I was in my teenage years which was nearly more than I can bare. It was a tuff time and I drifted a few times back then and sometimes pretty far...

We dont always do what we should do, and what we want to do we never do, but that does not stop God from Loving us still. A big part of real love is the commitment to being in a relationship with that person for the rest of your life, and God pulls 100% of the work with this and he will never give up.

The Christian life is not a constant high. I have my moments of deep discouragement. I have to go to God in prayer with tears in my eyes, and say, 'O God, forgive me,' or 'Help me.' --Billy Graham

I've learnt something over the years though, all I need to do is ask and it will be given. Sometimes it is just a struggle to say and it only comes out of my mouth as a slight whimper but it is answered. Then when I strengthen I ask for more and it always finds me. It's when we stop asking for the Love to endure, the strength to carry on, that's when it starts getting tuff. And it's not that we should ask that this happen or that happen and I'll be happy, but that his will be done because his plan is always best.




 
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Hey :)

Good on you for posting here :) It takes courage to be honest and you have done it! Well done :)

It's sad, but people break promises, everyone is stuffed, everyone is, people hurt each other and fight all the time.

You know what's awesome though, Jesus died for people who are stuffed.

People like you and me, Jesus died for us.

God doesn't expect you to be perfect, or even good! God loves you as you are!

Good news huh!

GOD DOESN'T EXPECT YOU TO BE PERFECT!!! All He wants is for you to admit you need Him! Which is exactly what you are doing here! Amazing! You are on the right track! God loves us all so much :)

Hang in there, God is real, He truly loves you :)

Good on you for seeking for God, stay honest and God will bless your life,

May God bless your life,
xjonx
 
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you still are a christian you confesed with your mouth and sole. you jest need to repent for the thing you did and if you realy do that you won't feal gulty anymoore it will be in the sea of forget full nes
:) Repentance includes not doing those things anymore. Just strive to follow Christ's example, and follow God with the faith of a child, for such is the kingdom of God.
 
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Don't care any more. Too much poo has happened lately have tried to talk to God about it, doesn't work he doesn't care just like everyone else around me. Don't see the point in me getting stressed over someone that doesn't care about me he obviously enjoys seeing me suffer so i ain't gunna give him te satisfaction.:cry: :sigh:
 
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:) Sometimes we set ourselves up for a fall. The Bible has never told us to trust in man... We are to put our trust in God. Get your Bible out..and do a word study... Look up Trust... You'll see that not one time does it say to put your trust in man.

The only time it does mention trusting in man is Jeremiah 17:5
Thus saith the Lord: Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.
Turn over there and read the verses before and after.
It changed my life.
I had put my trust in my Dad, my husband, my pastor, everyone but God.
Man will let you down everytime, but not God the Father.
Draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you...

Your not the only one that has went through this....Your not alone...When we transfered our trust from preachers and husbands and Daddy's and put them back on God, things balanced back out.
But I had to renew my mind with the Word.
I poured all the trust scriptures into my spirit...until my thinking lined up the God's thinking and then things turned around...
Preachers still in a mess...
but not me.
Standing on the rock.
Don't give up...do like Peter when he was walking on the water and he was sinkin' reach up, He'll save you.
I'll be praying for you.
God Bless and Keep you in His care.
Stacey:prayer:
 
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WhereareyouGod? said:
Don't care any more. Too much poo has happened lately have tried to talk to God about it, doesn't work he doesn't care just like everyone else around me. Don't see the point in me getting stressed over someone that doesn't care about me he obviously enjoys seeing me suffer so i ain't gunna give him te satisfaction.:cry: :sigh:
If Jesus said what you said, no one on this planet would have any hope, any at all. Think about what other people have gone through. Your struggles are light and momentary, in the grand scheme of things, they really are.

If God chooses to make you stronger by trial, it is His choice. But you cannot give up. He is trying to help you at the same time demons are trying to weaken you. If you just stand strong, you will be stronger than many people here on CF. You cannot hope to be spiritually strong without trial; God simply wants to build you up.
 
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WhereareyouGod? said:
Don't care any more. Too much poo has happened lately have tried to talk to God about it, doesn't work he doesn't care just like everyone else around me. Don't see the point in me getting stressed over someone that doesn't care about me he obviously enjoys seeing me suffer so i ain't gunna give him te satisfaction.:cry: :sigh:
So are you saying that if you don't get what you want, you are going to throw a tantrum until you do? Been there, done that, and it don't work... and I'm really glad it doesn't, now that I know what better things there are from God (at least on this fallen earth) than the things that I wanted and tried to force God into giving me like as if He were a vending machine.

And I know too that I've missed out on things because of my attitude at times, or at least the better stuff became slow coming because of it. Ever wake up and realize with out a doubt that you missed out on some good blessings? I sure have. I'm just glad this world ain't eternal or I'd maybe never catch up. But your choice is now, will you loose out on the blessings of today? Or will you kick yourself again in six more months?

You have been a Christian for two years, one day you will look back and say "wow! I was only two years old way back then!" I remember when I was two years old in the Lord. I remember when I was ten years old in the Lord and looking back now I can almost compare it to as when I was a 10 year old in my physical life. I was able to walk and talk, ride the buss and get around. When I was 10 years old in the Lord it was kinda like that, I understood far more than when I was two. But two year olds can know allot really, but they need to keep trying or they wind up crawling everywhere and that's no fun. Now I'm 23 and I can drive! spiritually speaking.

Trials, as Christians we all face trials. Be it from God or be it with our parents when we were children. There is always a good reason for trials though. And sometimes when we fail at those trials we face chastisement. It's not because our parents or our Lord does not care and then chastens us, but because they DO care and they want us to learn how to walk, so we can one day drive our own car responsibly. It makes us better drivers in the end. Look how many people get DUI-S (Driving Under the Influence of Sin), do we really want our spiritual license suspended? That would be no fun, I cant imagine riding my skateboard to get around everywhere at my age.

Anyway I have a good study for you to read. It's about the way God sometimes works in our lives to make us stronger. You can pass it up and not prayerfully read it but can you afford to loose another blessing?

Read this:
http://www.bible-truth.org/msg23-1.html
http://www.bible-truth.org/msg23-2.html
 
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WhereareyouGod? said:
Don't care any more. Too much poo has happened lately have tried to talk to God about it, doesn't work he doesn't care just like everyone else around me. Don't see the point in me getting stressed over someone that doesn't care about me he obviously enjoys seeing me suffer so i ain't gunna give him te satisfaction.:cry: :sigh:
Have you read the Bible? This is not what God says about you. He says that we are the apple of His eye, and if you cannot confess this with your mouth then you are falling for the lies of the devil and the world. They both enjoy stepping on your face, but you should not accuse the One who gave His life for you of not caring. Jesus cared enough to suffer for you, and He would never allow you to suffer for no reason. If we are ever blessed enough to suffer for Him then to share in that suffering would work a positive thing in your life, but the suffering you are displaying does not come from God. It sounds as though you need to stop hiding this and take it to the elders of the Church and have them lay hands on you and pray, binding the devil away from oppressing your spirit, and loosing His Holy Spirit to comfort and lead you into truth and peace. It is not God that causes this fear, as He does not give us a spirit of fear, but of love and a sound mind.
Have you ever thought about going out and helping other people? Sometimes it helps to obey God and do things for others so that we get our minds off of ourselves. We are to deny self and pick up the burden of love that God gives us, in carrying it to a dying world. Going to a nursing home or hospital to visit the sick and elderly or where disabled people live might just get your mind on some good things in Christian service and obedience to showing His love as a light in a dark world.
I have prayed for you, and hope to hear you bring back a good report in life, as we don't really have that much time to waste. Such a wonderful gift we have of life, yet get fooled by the devil who will leave as soon as we resist him and tell him to hit the road in Jesus name....We have great promise and love in Jesus our Savior.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Jas 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Jeremiah 22:16 He defended the cause of the POOR & NEEDY, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to KNOW me! declares the Lord.

I JOHN 4:7-13 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and KNOWS God. Whoever does not love does not KNOW God, because God is love.
 
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Yeah I agree with the above post very much and felt some parts of it echoing as I wrote my last post. You say you have still been going to your church, you should really speak with the elders, counselors or youth ministers of your church. There are some good posts on this thread for you but your Church can do so much more to help you through this than we could possibly do here in many ways.

Also serving in the church is such a great blessing. You will make more friends if you get out there and be active in some way. Chances are you will make even better friends than the ones you had before. When we focus too much on ourselves it leads to all sorts of misinterpretations about the things and people around us.
 
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So its my fault? I'm a rubbish Christian, i brought al this on myself. thanks! Thats all i will say.

No I'm not throwing a tantrum you don't have a clue about who i am or how long this has been going on, I came on here for help but hey, never mind i will get myself out of it as usual
 
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