Do I have to learn evolution in school .....

[Amiable16]

In my biology course there is a section on evolution. Part of what is in it is about what Darwin observed. The other part makes some ridiculous claims.
"Almost everyone accepts that evolution took place"
"It is important to understand that there is no contradiction between any of the worlds major religions and evolution"
It also tells us about the evolution of " The height of horse" and uses this as an example to prove evolution.
The whole topic makes it come across that evolution is fact. No mention of ID. I don't live in America and there is no seperation of church and state or anything..
So is there any chance I'd be able to get an exception ???

 

[GrizzlyMonKeH]

Are you afraid of learning about it?

 

[Chilaha]

I understand your concern about learning evolution and I think that it is good. It shows you are trying to guard your heart with the Truth. So, I commend you for that. But, I think it is good to learn about things that may go against our religion. Because, you can then compare it to their theory and either it turns out you may believe it, or it just helps you feel even more confident in your faith as a Christian.

 

[Amiable16]

It's not that I'm scared to learn it or that I'm scared it will turn me into an old earth creationist...
I was once an OEC but I researched evolution and felt that a Young Earth made more sense...
It's just that what they are teaching is blatantly false like the evolution of a horse and what was quoted in the Op...

 

[Redheadedstepchild]

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[Gath]

If God is real and evolution is wrong, its inherent falseness should be obvious.

If God is real and evolution is right, you'll learn more about God's methods.

If God isn't real and evolution is true, then you'll become more enlightened about the world.

Seems like you win either way. You shouldn't fear knowledge.

 

[HarborOrange]

Meh. Just learn it. I barely remember anything I was taught in school anyway. Most of it has proved absolutely useless in my life, to be honest.
Just kinda cram it in and spit it out so you can get good grades. You can choose to forget it later if you want. No big deal.

 

[Njmbirder]

I am actually very interested in the evolution section of my biology class. And I accept evolution as a fact, there is overwhelming information supporting it, and it actually solidified my belief in God. You will learn that all organisms descend from a common ancestor. God caused the changes in the original ancestor, and slowly sculpted modern day life forms from the ancestor through genetics and adaptation. God formed evolution, that is what I realized. Because I was left with the question, where did the original ancestor come from, the answer is God. Be open-minded. If you are still uncomfortable, speak with your teacher about it.

 

[NateDaGrimes]

i dont care for evolution.. i just block their stupid doctrine.

#evolution is a crutch for the weak

 

[Etheri]

1 John 4:3 ESV

And every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.

 

[Kurama]

By all means reject evolution on a personal level but do not flunk your tests because of your beliefs. In the contemporary era, one must adapt.

I'm currently in a psychology class, I can't say that I accept many of the (wacky) ideals of Freud, but since I plan to be successful, I'd better accept the knowledge at hand.

Anyway I am a little surprised...as a Catholic, you need to be aware that the Pope has accepted evolution as a theory, that one can still be Christian while accepting evolution (or even most scientific theories, even the Big Bang, which was actually discovered by a Catholic priest).

 

[Chris Blanks]

Evolution is a fact people get used to it. It has been proven time and time again. It is no longer a traditional theory, it is now a "scientific theory", which means that it was been proven to be true but more and more is being learnt everyday.

 

[Girder of Loins]

False. Evolution has never been observed at the level of which you speak. While there is a trend in mutations that, on a larger scale, can bring about new classes, it has not been seen yet. As such, the theory has never been proven. And even if it were proven, it is still a scientific fact. I find your first comment very modernist and against the very idea of science. To say that a scientific fact equals truth is preposterous. Science, even at the "fact" level, is not truth. The greatest achievement a scientist can make is not finding evidence that backs up his theory, but finding evidence that refutes it.

Am I denying evolution in this post? No. Evolution is a nice theory. But its never been proven enough for me to put my backing behind. Just like Literal Creationism does not have enough support for me to put my backing behind.

 

[SayaOtonashi]

I reject literal creation days for yom is the word for day but not actually day. Also the fact that much of the grass were still growing.

 

[Shane Plew]

I reject literal creation days for yom is the word for day but not actually day. Also the fact that much of the grass were still growing.

I don't even know what you mean.

 

[Chris Blanks]

False. Evolution has never been observed at the level of which you speak. While there is a trend in mutations that, on a larger scale, can bring about new classes, it has not been seen yet. As such, the theory has never been proven. And even if it were proven, it is still a scientific fact. I find your first comment very modernist and against the very idea of science. To say that a scientific fact equals truth is preposterous. Science, even at the "fact" level, is not truth. The greatest achievement a scientist can make is not finding evidence that backs up his theory, but finding evidence that refutes it.

Am I denying evolution in this post? No. Evolution is a nice theory. But its never been proven enough for me to put my backing behind. Just like Literal Creationism does not have enough support for me to put my backing behind.

Fact=Truth, any that is not a fact is not the truth simple as that. You cannot know something that is false. I don't think you understand the difference between a scientific theory and a traditional theory.

 

[Girder of Loins]

Fact=Truth, any that is not a fact is not the truth simple as that. You cannot know something that is false. I don't think you understand the difference between a scientific theory and a traditional theory.

So just because something is a scientific fact means that it is truth? But science is based on evidences, and to make the claim that because something is a scientific fact equals truth means you have all evidence. This then means that you know everything. You, sir, have made science irrelevant.

 

[Kurama]

So just because something is a scientific fact means that it is truth? But science is based on evidences, and to make the claim that because something is a scientific fact equals truth means you have all evidence. This then means that you know everything. You, sir, have made science irrelevant.

Of course your opinion is valid, there should be no absolutes in science. That being said...the sheer amount of geological and archaeological findings we've discovered point to the fact that evolution did indeed happen, and that of course the earth is far older than 6000 years. This fact is irrefutable by the physical evidence we have, and to deny it would mean neglecting all the evidence as conspiracy.

Does our religion revolve around trying to prove that we were created in this present form without genetic alteration, or is it deeper? Surely if we worship God, let us accept that He has hidden things for us to find, that not everything is found in the Bible...

This is just my opinion...I just think the whole Young Earth Creationist movement is taking Christianity out of perspective. In truth, a Christian shouldn't care about whether one accepts evolution or not, it's more about whether they have faith in God that matters.

 

[Shane Plew]

^^This guy knows whats up.

 

[Girder of Loins]

Of course your opinion is valid, there should be no absolutes in science. That being said...the sheer amount of geological and archaeological findings we've discovered point to the fact that evolution did indeed happen, and that of course the earth is far older than 6000 years. This fact is irrefutable by the physical evidence we have, and to deny it would mean neglecting all the evidence as conspiracy.

Does our religion revolve around trying to prove that we were created in this present form without genetic alteration, or is it deeper? Surely if we worship God, let us accept that He has hidden things for us to find, that not everything is found in the Bible...

This is just my opinion...I just think the whole Young Earth Creationist movement is taking Christianity out of perspective. In truth, a Christian shouldn't care about whether one accepts evolution or not, it's more about whether they have faith in God that matters.

I agree with you. But I refuse to call any scientific fact, "truth." To me, it cheapens science and turns it into a religion rather than a way of understanding our universe. Kinda like what Lucas did to Star Wars. It started out great, then it changed into a cheap circus performance. I agree that evolution is a valid scientific fact. We don't have evidence that refutes it. Neither do we have evidence that refutes an Old Earth Creation model. I am no longer a Young Earth Creationist, nor do I believe the flood. But Theological Evolution is such a dividing topic that I don't wish to cause discord in the Church. TBH, I don't give a rip which one is true.