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Been there / done that!ANYONE: My apologies. I got my Francis fellows mixed up. It was not Francis Collins but the expert Francis Crick, who was much involved in the discovery of DNA, who went along with Directed Panspermia.
Of Bacteria and Men: Francis Crick and Directed Panspermia.
That truly is all I have to say. Only wanted to be accurate.
Sigh. One more post. Yes there is such a thing as "proof" in science. A paternity test can give proof, airplane pilots want proof that their vehicles will work and get it, and there can be MRI scans that give proof of this and that. The list of proofs in science is endless. How would you think a policeman would react if his radar showed you were over the speed limit and you told him "There is no such thing as proof in science, like the science in your radar equipment." Not to mention what a judge would think.Directed Panspermia is not a theory it is a hypothesis for which little if any evidence has yet been presented. On the other hand Punctuated Equilibrium has sufficient evidence to be regarded as a theory. Keep in mind that theories are provisional. There is no such thing as "proof" in science. Darwin's other theory was shot down pretty darn quickly.
Sigh. One more post. Yes there is such a thing as "proof" in science. A paternity test can give proof, airplane pilots want proof that their vehicles will work and get it, and there can be MRI scans that give proof of this and that. The list of proofs in science is endless. How would you think a policeman would react if his radar showed you were over the speed limit and you told him "There is no such thing as proof in science, like the science in your radar equipment." Not to mention what a judge would think.
ignert fundie
You proved mine about cyberbullies and troll talkers.You just kind of proved my point.
You proved mine about cyberbullies and troll talkers.
Yes, and that same science can "prove" that there never was a Noah's Ark. And that evolution is a fact. Inconsistency is not a winning debate technique.Sigh. One more post. Yes there is such a thing as "proof" in science. A paternity test can give proof, airplane pilots want proof that their vehicles will work and get it, and there can be MRI scans that give proof of this and that. The list of proofs in science is endless. How would you think a policeman would react if his radar showed you were over the speed limit and you told him "There is no such thing as proof in science, like the science in your radar equipment." Not to mention what a judge would think.
We all need time to learn real science and real logic and we are always having illogic and pseudo science thrown at us. Nothing personal, I know you are trying to be helpful, but a statement like that there is no such thing as proof in science is why I say people keep acting like they understand science, but really are having problems even with the basics. That is how evolution is accepted so easily.
"Keep in mind that theories are provisional." Gee, I'm so glad you bothered to tell that to this presumed to ignert fundie. Again, I know you mean well, but, again, sigh.
No, P.E. has no evidence. It says things, by golly, just happened so fast that we don't have the evidence for evolution that we need. You can't prove a negative.
You seem like a nice sort. If you are ever interested in taking a good hard look outside the box, I suggest Crevo Rants first, maybe starting with the very funny one called SEX.
Best wishes and bye.
but a statement like that there is no such thing as proof in science is why I say people keep acting like they understand science, but really are having problems even with the basics.
No, P.E. has no evidence. It says things, by golly, just happened so fast that we don't have the evidence for evolution that we need. You can't prove a negative.
I think logic applied to an initial assumption which (objectively) 'tests out', could be construed as 'proof' in a debate.Yes, and that same science can "prove" that there never was a Noah's Ark.
Falsifiability certainly comes into the philosophy of Science .. ie: when it was heavily influenced by Popper's Realism .. but such philosophies can be swapped out for others .. yet the scientific process remains intact when the influence those philosophies have, is distilled and exposed.... Now sometimes the word "proof" gets tossed around with respect to repeated observations. But it's generally understood that everything in science is subject to falsification; unfalsifiable propositions don't belong in science.
Is this the same science that can "prove" there never was an Exodus?Yes, and that same science can "prove" that there never was a Noah's Ark.
Is this the same science that can "prove" there never was an Exodus?
1491 BCHistory itself refutes the Exodus. Tell me, what year was the Exodus?
Oh darn, at that time Egypt was in control of the region. All the way up to Syria, Israel included:1491 BC
Ya ... Egypt should have sent their army after him, shouldn't have they?You are claiming that Moses left Egypt and then ended back up in an area under Egyptian control.
In 1491 they wouldn't have needed to. They had one waiting on the other side.Ya ... Egypt should have sent their army after him, shouldn't have they?
Oh ... wait!
Maybe that’s one reason they took their time getting there.In 1491 they wouldn't have needed to. They had one waiting on the other side.
Maybe in your version of 1491; but certainly not God's.In 1491 they wouldn't have needed to. They had one waiting on the other side.
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