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Doesn't sound very omnipotent to me.
Just because God may see that the only way to deal with a situation is to do it a certain way doesn't mean that He is reduced to limited choices. It just means that He is choosing not to use that power because of maybe a greater reason not to do so. How do you know what the reason was and why he did it. You are just boxing God into a corner and saying He has to act this way or that way or He is not a very great God. But that is all according to the parameters of what you have set with what you know about Gods mind and the greater picture of creation and what its all about. But then Satan was the same, he thought he was as good or better than God and said that he knew everything that was going on. Thats how he convinced Adam and Eve by saying eat from the tree and you will be as great as God.
Everything seems to come as a surprise to your all knowing omniscient god!
Maybe or maybe he had to deal with it in a certain way because that was the best and only way that would keep everything in balance and then eventually restore God and mans relationship. Its not the way according to what you think or the way this world would think with their subjective morality.
God was reduced to trying to intervene in the mess he's created "the best way he knew how"? Seriously? Faced with a complete balls up your omnipotent god's solution is to pretend to sacrifice himself in human form so that he could permit himself to do a bit of forgiving? Really? Your god sounds not only limited and a bit dumb but also lacking in common sense. "Duh, I know I'm omnipotent, but, duh, I can't allow myself to forgive anyone until I've changed myself into human form and had myself nailed to a cross. Yeah, that's a plan." !!! Seriously?
Well you seem to have worked out God and what his intentions are. You seem to know all the secrets of God. But then you dont even believe in the power of the cross and Jesus's death and resurrection which is far greater than what you are trying to reduce it down to. So I guess you would be dismissive because you dont have any faith in Him as a savior.
You seem to be forgetting that your god is immortal. He could transmute himself into a wooden coffin, have himself buried and rot in the ground for a thousand years and 'newsflash' he still wouldn't be dead. Get it?
You seem to be forgetting why this all happened. Since the fall in the garden sin and death entered the world and all man kinds lives. We were separated from God by sin. So God sent Jesus and Jesus came in the flesh so that we could see God among us.
This for what ever reason to God could not be just something that could happen 100 years after Adam or 1000 years afterwards. It happened at the very time it had to happen. The line of holy men and the covenants that God established with those holy men like Abraham were all done in preparation for when Jesus would come. They all represented important aspects that had to happen for the impact of what Jesus had done to have the meaning and the importance it had. If it didn't happen that way then it wasn't going to work. The old testament prophesied it and prepared the way,. John the Baptist preached that Jesus was coming just as the old testament said.
So when Jesus came it was the right time and set the way for the beginning of redemption of mankind. Maybe if it happened in any other time or way then it wouldn't have gone down the way it did. It may have been misunderstood or never turn out how it was suppose to. The end result is here we are over 2000 years later and the gospel is being preached throughout the world. Believe it or not it has had the right sort of impact and it has presented the right sort of message. So the time was right and it fell into mans history at the exact right time. So though God is all powerful it wasnt always just about what God could do or not do. It was about how to do it right so that Jesus could defeat sin and death for good and have the right impact for saving mankind. This is only part of the whole picture. We still have the second coming of Jesus and the final defeat of Satan. So it will all be revealed and as the bible says we know now in part but soon we will fully know just as God completely knows.
He's either omniscient or he isn't. Your god would appear to be severely mentally challenged.
This is all according to what you have set as the guidelines for how God should be. Its one thing to put interpretations on these qualities its another to know the mind of God and understand the whole picture of when and where he should act or not and what it all represents in doing so. Its not some magical mystery tour. There is still all the elements of our existence involved and what those actions would have on us. We are still beings that can think and have free will. We are not robots.
Yeah, but being god makes being a human for a short while just an exercise in passing the time. It's playtime. It's meaningless. He's still god. You can churn him up in a mincing machine: he's still god.
Thats what you have reduced it down to being a non believer. If you knew the power of what the resurrection of Christ represented you would be saying that. It is also about our relationship with Him. You are seeing things in a one dimensional and restricted way that is according to making God conform and fit to a worldly view.
I'm not limiting him, you are. You want him to pretend not to be omniscient and to act as if everything came as a such a surprise to him that he makes truly bizarre decisions. That's you, not me.
Superman didn't always use his powers even though he had them. Sometimes its about the reason why not just because you can.
That's the point. The story at the centre of the christian religion is completely nonsensical. You've just been fed the story in a particularly angled way over and over again, so the idea of deconstructing it and looking at it in other ways that show it in a different light strikes you as utterly wrong. Probably even blasphemous.
No I havnt been fed anything. I have read the bible and thats where I get the message. The holy spirit is what witnesses to me and testifies of the power and significance of this.
Yes, that's the story. Unfortunately it's got more holes in it than a colander.
Its not about a history lesson its about the power of the cross and how it transforms a person. This is something you do not know of and cannot comment on because you dont believe in it. So what you are trying to commentate on is the container but not whats inside it.
If he is omnipotent and omniscient he wouldn't have need to do any of the above. That's the point. Not unless he was a complete nut job anyway.
As I said before that according to you and your understanding.
No, I'm trying not to limit him. An omnipotent god can forgive anyone anything at anytime without having to go through a big drama pretending to be a human for a bit. He can just forgive. That is omnipotence. You are the one who wants a limited god.
No once again thats according to you. How do you know. How do you know what Gods intentions are with trying to put intentions and meanings that are derived from what your limited understanding is. To start with you have no idea of the mind of God and how he should think. You are trying to make him think like you.
But I think even you can see that pretending to have yourself killed so you can then make a big deal out of doing some forgiving, (which being omnipotent you could have done anyway - that being the point of being omnipotent) isn't reflecting well on the main character. Or those who think the story is touching, come to that.
Like I said you look at the shell and not the substance. You dont believe in the power of the cross so you look at it as just an act like any act. But the power of the blood is the most powerful thing ever and can achieve the impossible. It changes lives and a person who believe in that doesn't see it as just some superficial story like you are saying. There is so much more dimension to it.
