Do creationists accept the evolution of plants?

[CabVet]

O'level Biology, aged 11, lesson 1, topic 1: What is life?

Looks like juve missed out on secondary school education. Shame.

Looks like he missed school, all of it.

 

[Kylie]

it becomes larger through time.

Explain the process by which this occurs. Because rocks tend to ERODE...

 

[Kylie]

You can not evaluate life form by using our standard of life. It is a mistake if you want to evaluate the life form of space aliens.

So rocks are alive, as long as you get to redefine what "alive" means.

The rock on your kitchen counter is still breathing, even it is dying slowly.
If you break "a" rock into two pieces, then you get "two" rocks. I think you can chop the root of some plants to do the same.
If kill a rock is a criminal, then all farmers should be put into jail too.

What about all the asteroids? They've been in space for billions of years. Have they all suffocated and died?

 

[pgp_protector]

So rocks are alive, as long as you get to redefine what "alive" means.



What about all the asteroids? They've been in space for billions of years. Have they all suffocated and died?

Wait !! If Rocks are alive & Asteroids are Rocks from space then Aliens are REAL !!!!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Melting.

Then I guess liquid water is the corpse of an ice cube

 

[lasthero]

Then I guess liquid water is the corpse of an ice cube

What does that make gas?

 

[PsychoSarah]

What does that make gas?

I guess the water's soul going to the afterlife, who knows, I can't get over how someone who doesn't consider plants alive considers rocks alive

 

[Split Rock]

A rock can be detected and identified, and is unique.
A rock is a self sustaining system.

When a rock died, those functions ceased.

No, a rock is not a self sustaining system. There are no functions that keep it "alive," therefore it cannot die. It does not undertake any of these key attributes of life:
-Response to environment
-Homeostasis
-Reproduction

 

[Loudmouth]

There is evidence behind my opinion as well. Birds change into a variety of birds. It can be observed, repeated and tested.

If a bird can turn into a dinosaur or a fish or something else then we should be able to see the evidence. Where is it?

Birds, dinosaurs, and fish are all varieties of vertebrates.

Also, why do you ignore the transitional fossils?

 

[CabVet]

There is evidence behind my opinion as well.

No, your faith is behind your opinion.

Birds change into a variety of birds. It can be observed, repeated and tested.

There is plenty of evidence for it, but no, speciation in birds was not directly observed, and not repeated in a laboratory. The tests for it do not involve direct observation, but are reproducible and can be applied in any organism.

If a bird can turn into a dinosaur or a fish or something else then we should be able to see the evidence. Where is it?

The evidence is in the same place as the evidence of birds turning into birds: fossils, DNA, biochemistry, embryology. Funny how you accept it in one case and simply chose to ignore it in another. For your information, a fish or dinosaur "turning" into a bird is simply vertebrates changing into a variety of vertebrates.

 

[juvenissun]

No, a rock is not a self sustaining system. There are no functions that keep it "alive," therefore it cannot die. It does not undertake any of these key attributes of life:
-Response to environment
-Homeostasis
-Reproduction

Rocks respond to environment all the time.
A rock system is trying to move toward homeostasis all the time.
A type of rock do can become more populated or less populated.

More?

 

[juvenissun]

Then I guess liquid water is the corpse of an ice cube

Not bad. You may think all glacial ice are alive. They even move on themselves.

 

[CabVet]

Rock respond to environment all the time.
A rock system is trying to move toward homeostasis all the time.
A type or rock do can become more populated or less populated.

More?

English no exist.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

So rocks are alive, as long as you get to redefine what "alive" means.



What about all the asteroids? They've been in space for billions of years. Have they all suffocated and died?

Sometimes a pebble will impact a bigger asteroid and it will therefore "grow." Does that count as being alive?

 

[juvenissun]

Sometimes a pebble will impact a bigger asteroid and it will therefore "grow." Does that count as being alive?

I think so. You may think the pebble is a food to the asteroid.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Not bad. You may think all glacial ice are alive. They even move on themselves.

Every dead legitimate geologist is rolling in their graves

 

[Loudmouth]

Biology: "Biology is a natural science concerned with the study of life and living organisms, including their structure, function, growth, evolution, distribution, and taxonomy."
Biology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Botany: "Botany, also called plant science(s) or plant biology, is the science of plant life and a branch of biology."
Botany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Biology is the study of life, and Botany is a subcategory of Biology that studies plants. What does that tell you?

 

[Split Rock]

Rocks respond to environment all the time.
A rock system is trying to move toward homeostasis all the time.
A type of rock do can become more populated or less populated.

More?

Rocks don't respond to anything. They do not actively attempt to maintain any conditions separate from their environment. They do not reproduce. A rock falling off from a cliff and joining others does not constitute replication.

You're not really a creationist.. are you?

 

[CabVet]

Every dead legitimate geologist is rolling in their graves

And every live one is having a stroke.

 

[PsychoSarah]

And every live one is having a stroke.

Only the ones reading what juve says, I am sure plenty are in ignorant bliss of the fraudulent guy claiming to be a geologist who thinks plants aren't alive and rocks are