Do Aliens Exist?

[Ophiolite]

should evidence be necessary for everything?


I don't know why it's necessary for aliens

I see you edited your post.

Evidence is necessary if one is going to accept the concept the evidence relates to. The evidence for aliens is purely circumstantial: conditions such as those obtaining on Earth are likely to be present on many other planets, perhaps trillions of them in the universe, therefore it is possible that aliens may exist.

This circumstantial evidence is sufficient to convince @Warden_of_the_Storm that aliens might well exist. That is an understandable and rational position. I find the circumstantial evidence insufficient to arrive at that conclusion. I remain undecided.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

you've been saying it's likely


rather than saying you accept aliens do exist

I accept the belief that aliens are likely to exist. It's not a phrase to trip you up. I'm saying that I can accept that aliens exist out there, but I'm also prepared to accept that aliens don't exist out there.

 

[JohnEmmett]

"Real magic... refers to the magic that is not real; while the magic that is real, that can actually be done, is not real magic." - Lee Siegel

clueless quote

 

[JohnEmmett]

I accept the belief that aliens are likely to exist. It's not a phrase to trip you up. I'm saying that I can accept that aliens exist out there, but I'm also prepared to accept that aliens don't exist out there.

just say They Exist


faith is necessary…

 

[essentialsaltes]

should evidence be necessary for everything?
you can't shop without proving you're not a terrorist?

Proof is for mathematics. No one needs to prove anything, but acceptance of something should be based on adequate evidence.

no one can be convinced

Sure you can. I tell you that Los Angeles is east of Reno, and you're all, like, "No Way!" But then you look at the evidence on a map, and you're all, "Way!"

 

[JohnEmmett]

I tell you that Los Angeles is east of Reno, and you're all, like, "No Way!" But then you look at the evidence on a map, and you're all, "Way!"

K, well…

I recently showed evidence of Atlantis

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

just say They Exist


faith is necessary…

No, because I don't know if they exist or not. I am willing to accept actual evidence that aliens exist, and I'm also willing to accept actual evidence that aliens do not exist.
Nothing about faith. It's about me being shown evidence for them and me finding that evidence conclusive enough to accept it.

 

[JohnEmmett]

No, because I don't know if they exist or not. I am willing to accept actual evidence that aliens exist, and I'm also willing to accept actual evidence that aliens do not exist.
Nothing about faith. It's about me being shown evidence for them and me finding that evidence conclusive enough to accept it.

what I expected

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

what I expected

Explain that comment. I've had to explain myself to you several times, you should at least be courteous and do the same.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Explain that comment. I've had to explain myself to you several times, you should at least be courteous and do the same.

Faith is necessary to say aliens exist

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

clueless quote

I note that you supply neither argument nor evidence for your claim.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Faith is necessary to say aliens exist

No it isn't. I have explained my position to you several times now, and I have said that my position is based on evidence, not faith.

 

[JohnEmmett]

No it isn't. I have explained my position to you several times now, and I have said that my position is based on evidence, not faith.

you won't say aliens exist


I'm merely asking for a leap of faith

 

[JohnEmmett]

I note that you supply neither argument nor evidence for your claim.

Art is magic

 

[Landon Caeli]

Faith is necessary to say aliens exist

There's more than one way to think though... we can think statistically, with hard facts, with faith, or by luck (superstition).

It doesn't have to be reduced to only one, all the time.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

you won't say aliens exist


I'm merely asking for a leap of faith

Because I haven't seen any evidence to say that aliens exist. Until I see conclusive evidence that aliens exist, I will not make a definitive statement that either they do exist or do not exist.
It's not hard logic to follow.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Because I haven't seen any evidence to say that aliens exist. Until I see conclusive evidence that aliens exist, I will not make a definitive statement that either they do exist or do not exist.
It's not hard logic to follow.

easy logic… I say faith is necessary to say aliens exist

 

[Landon Caeli]

Art is magic

...

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

easy logic… I say faith is necessary to say aliens exist

You are not the arbitrator of logic.
A person does not need faith to accept that aliens exist. I need evidence to accept that aliens exist.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I need evidence to accept that aliens exist.