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Duckybill

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Duckybill is *really* depressing me. I already believe that based on my deliberate sin of unbiblical divorce, I've lost my salvation. I mean, God likens my act to that of murder, so what hope do I really have of being forgiven by Him in the end?
Divorce can be repented of by Christians, if someone is sincere. For those who weren't Christians at the time it's irrelevant.
 
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Not at all. God is faithful to His MANY promises.

Mark 10:29-30 (NKJV)
29 So Jesus answered and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's, 30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time--houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions--and in the age to come, eternal life.

You're butchering the context of it. What you are saying is a totally radical fundamentalist interpretation. It's a sign of immaturity. but you're probably from a background of radical fundamentalists, so it's not surprising.
 
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So if you blaspheme only once you're automatically going to hell? Since it is inforgiveable, and all? And since you can only get into heaven via forgiveness...

Which would mean anyone who was of a religion besides christianity before becoming christian has already blasphemed by believing in blasphemous faiths, by that principle pretty much everyone who is not raised and lives as a Christian has already secured their place in hell.

Context, context context! Symbolism! Allegory! Literary devices!
 
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mpok- I've never thought about the act blaspheming in the way you just explained it. That makes me wonder though, *when* does God truly give up on trying to turn a sinner toward Him during our final Judgement? What's His true "breaking point" for a sinner, unbeliever, or non-repentant?
 
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I have been threatened at gun point because of my religious beliefs. I do know what I'm talking about. God is faithful. I do not own a gun. Don't need one.
Getting out is fine. I would recommend it. Divorce? Nope. No reason to divorce except adultery.

Oh so when divorce is not the case and the abuser is financially irresponsible, and the creditors and government can come after the legal spouse, he or she should just support the abuser for the rest of their lives?

That is the law in case you haven't taken your head out of the sand long enough to notice. Or maybe you were just too busy admiring the purple sky in your world till your head went back in the sand.
 
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mpok- I've never thought about the act blaspheming in the way you just explained it. That makes me wonder though, *when* does God truly give up on trying to turn a sinner toward Him during our final Judgement? What's His true "breaking point" for a sinner, unbeliever, or non-repentant?


How can God have a breaking point when that is a completely human and nondivine concept? Infinite patience and mercy by definition has no breaking point. This is why a strict critical application of allegory and symbolism must be applied when interpreting scripture.
 
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You're butchering the context of it. What you are saying is a totally radical fundamentalist interpretation. It's a sign of immaturity. but you're probably from a background of radical fundamentalists, so it's not surprising.
You offer no evidence.
 
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mpok- I've never thought about the act blaspheming in the way you just explained it. That makes me wonder though, *when* does God truly give up on trying to turn a sinner toward Him during our final Judgement? What's His true "breaking point" for a sinner, unbeliever, or non-repentant?
Anyone seeking God with all his/her heart has not been given up by God.
 
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Oh so when divorce is not the case and the abuser is financially irresponsible, and the creditors and government can come after the legal spouse, he or she should just support the abuser for the rest of their lives?

That is the law in case you haven't taken your head out of the sand long enough to notice. Or maybe you were just too busy admiring the purple sky in your world till your head went back in the sand.
All of which have nothing to do with God taking care of His, as He said He would and does.
 
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The majority opinion confirms that Satan has used his main weapon against mankind. Religion. The church of unbelief has arrived as was foretold by God to happen at the time of THE END. The unbelieving church that is afraid to trust in the living God.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 (NKJV)
1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
 
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Narrow is the way and FEW there be ...
Ia ia cthulu ftagn!

Bottom line, don't ever listen to someone who says you shouldn't divorce an abusive spouse. That's misguided in the most serious sense. Humans are fallible, we make mistakes. And sometimes that mistake can be marrying the wrong person. Just because you make that mistake you shouldn't be damned to a life of misery or loneliness.
 
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