Disprove Calvinist Soteriology

[EmSw]

That's an evasion. The answer is YES or NO?

Will a man reap what he sows?

I doubt you will get a straight answer, Thursday. And yes, it's a simple question requiring a simple answer. If they answer either yes or no, it puts their theology at risk. And if you press them to answer, they go on the offensive.

 

[Hammster]

I doubt you will get a straight answer, Thursday. And yes, it's a simple question requiring a simple answer. If they answer either yes or no, it puts their theology at risk. And if you press them to answer, they go on the offensive.

So either answer puts our theology at risk? Lol.

 

[EmSw]

While I consider them close brothers, I don't consider 4-pointers Calvinists.

Well, I see you tried to answer. Am I right in saying you believe the 4-pointers are the liars?

 

[EmSw]

So either answer puts our theology at risk? Lol.

Do you not believe those who sow to his flesh will reap corruption?

Galatians 6
7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

What's so funny about that?

 

[Hammster]

Well, I see you tried to answer. Am I right in saying you believe the 4-pointers are the liars?

I didn't say anything about anyone being a liar.

Walk carefully, bro.

 

[Hammster]

Do you not believe those who sow to his flesh will reap corruption?

Galatians 6
7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

What's so funny about that?

I do believe that. What was funny was what I laughed at.

 

[Hammster]

So, you do believe someone saved will reap corruption if he sows to the flesh, and not eternal life.

No. It's not possible.

 

[EmSw]

No. It's not possible.

So, Paul was lying.

Galatians 6:8
For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

Perhaps you don't know what 'corruption' is. If not, here is your chance to learn what it means. Here is what it means according to Strong's -

1. corruption, destruction, perishing
   
   1. that which is subject to corruption, what is perishable
      
      
   2. in the Christian sense, eternal misery in hell
      
2. in the NT, in an ethical sense, corruption i.e. moral decay
   

Now you know, Hammster!

 

[Hammster]

So, Paul was lying.

Galatians 6:8
For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

Perhaps you don't know what 'corruption' is. If not, here is your chance to learn what it means. Here is what it means according to Strong's -

1. corruption, destruction, perishing
   1. that which is subject to corruption, what is perishable
      
      
   2. in the Christian sense, eternal misery in hell
2. in the NT, in an ethical sense, corruption i.e. moral decay

Now you know, Hammster!

No, Paul wasn't lying.

 

[EmSw]

No. It's not possible.

And, you lied to me when you said you believed that. Why?

 

[EmSw]

No, Paul wasn't lying.

You have been caught Hammster. You don't believe what Paul said, and boldly lie to our faces. You better move on before more of you is exposed.

 

[Hammster]

And, you lied to me when you said you believed that. Why?

Go back and read what I said. There's no lying.

 

[EmSw]

Go back and read what I said. There's no lying.

Hammster, your games are old. I truly believe you don't even know what you believe.

 

[Hammster]

Hammster, your games are old. I truly believe you don't even know what you believe.

There's no games, at least from me. I've answered your questions as asked. The issue is the conclusion you've drawn based on your presuppositions.

 

[EmSw]

There's no games, at least from me. I've answered your questions as asked. The issue is the conclusion you've drawn based on your presuppositions.

Yep, there you go with your games. If you can't answer the questions, attack the other man. The issue is NOT me Hammster. The issue is that you DO NOT believe if one sows to the flesh, they will reap corruption.

 

[Hammster]

Yep, there you go with your games. If you can't answer the questions, attack the other man. The issue is NOT me Hammster. The issue is that you DO NOT believe if one sows to the flesh, they will reap corruption.

That's incorrect.

“For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭6:8‬ ‭NASB‬‬

That is 100% true.

And I didn't attack you. I didn't call YOU a liar. I just said that your misunderstanding of my answers, and your assumptions, are based on your presuppositions. We all have them and can cause us to read into someone else's answers something they never intended.

 

[EmSw]

That's incorrect.

“For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭6:8‬ ‭NASB‬‬

That is 100% true.

And I didn't attack you. I didn't call YOU a liar. I just said that your misunderstanding of my answers, and your assumptions, are based on your presuppositions. We all have them and can cause us to read into someone else's answers something they never intended.

Then plainly tell everyone, will a saved person reap corruption if he sows to the flesh?

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Then plainly tell everyone, will a saved person reap corruption if he sows to the flesh?

Is it possible that you don't understand the definition of the word, "saved"?

 

[Hammster]

Then plainly tell everyone, will a saved person reap corruption if he sows to the flesh?

If he did, I suppose. But he won't.

“For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:5-9‬ ‭NASB‬‬

 

[EmSw]

Is it possible that you don't understand the definition of the word, "saved"?

Why would I not understand what 'saved' is? Is it some mystery that only a few can understand?