Disobedience has consequences.

GrimKingGrim · May 22, 2015

Messy said:
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/carnivores.html
Simosuchus the vegetarian crocodile
Other evidence that carnivorous reptiles once had teeth for eating vegetation comes from the fossil remains of Simosuchus.

for more information read:
A Broccoli-Eating Croc?(fossil discovery) Discover: Sept, 2000

There is evidence that Piranha were once vegetarian as well. (Piranha by David Catchpoole, Ph.D. Creation Ex Nihilo 22(4):20–23,September–November 2000)

Ev-o-lu-tion

bhsmte · May 22, 2015

Catherineanne said:
Every death is different. Like birth, no two are ever the same.

Do you mean what leads up to death, or the death itself?

Catherineanne · May 22, 2015

GrimKingGrim said:
Death has never changed. But if that is what you wish to believe. He is uncaring nevertheless.

You really don't have much of a clue, do you?

http://fullreads.com/poetry/the-angel-of-death/

'Thy treasures wait thee in the far off skies,
And Death, thy friend, will give them all to thee.'

Catherineanne · May 22, 2015

bhsmte said:
Do you mean what leads up to death, or the death itself?

Both.

HatGuy · May 22, 2015

GrimKingGrim said:
I don't believe in a universal force. I don't believe it has a meaning. And the words I would use are meaningless and vast; incomprehensibly large, chaotic. The universe is the universe.

The "universe" has to have meaning if you and I are even to converse. The fact that words have meaning and there is clear order in this universe is one way in which the idea of a "meaningless universe" is shown to be, well, completely meaningless. It is not all chaotic, that much is self-evident, right now even as we type.

bhsmte · May 22, 2015

Catherineanne said:
Both.

Ok. Could you explain further. Are these differences referring to physical differences in the process of death? Or are you talking about something completely different?

GrimKingGrim · May 22, 2015

Catherineanne said:
Every death is different. Like birth, no two are ever the same.

I don't believe you can tell me that my work does anything other than halt life. I pretty sure it's the same. Every single time.

What you actually mean is the ways which people reach that, but that doesn't change death, just the way you reach it.

Catherineanne · May 22, 2015

bhsmte said:
Ok. Could you explain further. Are these differences referring to physical differences in the process of death? Or are you talking about something completely different?

Every death is a transition from one state to another state, like birth. This transition is irreversible, and it is different every single time. Although it is true that all life must die, that does not mean that every death is the same. Every death is unique, just as every snowflake is unique.

The process will always be different, the experience will be different, and the end result will be different. To see a row of corpses and assume that death is the same for everyone is rather foolish, I would suggest.

Even though every leaf must fall from the tree in my garden, no two leaves will fall at exactly the same moment or land at exactly the same place. That is not how the universe works; it is full of uniqueness, full of moments that can never be repeated or duplicated. Every leaf will fall in its own unique way.

Catherineanne · May 22, 2015

GrimKingGrim said:
I don't believe you can tell me that my work does anything other than halt life. I pretty sure it's the same. Every single time.

What you actually mean is the ways which people reach that, but that doesn't change death, just the way you reach it.

Your work? Don't make me laugh. : D

GrimKingGrim · May 22, 2015

HatGuy said:
The "universe" has to have meaning if you and I are even to converse. The fact that words have meaning and there is clear order in this universe is one way in which the idea of a "meaningless universe" is shown to be, well, completely meaningless. It is not all chaotic, that much is self-evident, right now even as we type.

We made words. These words don't affect reality at large. We can change the meaning of the word "Universe" to mean "delicious banana pudding" if we wanted to. Meanings are only relative to our minds and are only in existence as a means to communicate to each other. But outside the use of words nothing changes. A rock does not become a fish and therefore subscribe to the meaning of being a fish, by me calling it a fish. So I could just as easily refer to the universe as a fish and it'd be much the same. The words I use affect no universe.

The only reason I describe the universe as "universe" and "meaningless" is because that's the only way we can actually communicate. But that doesn't actually affect reality and what the universe is and will always be.

TillICollapse · May 22, 2015

Catherineanne said:
Your work? Don't make me laugh. : D

Oh snap. lol

GrimKingGrim · May 22, 2015

Catherineanne said:
Every death is a transition from one state to another state, like birth. This transition is irreversible, and it is different every single time.

And you're born. I see no difference.

Although it is true that all life must die, that does not mean that every death is the same. Every death is unique, just as every snowflake is unique.

Hmmm, no.

The process will always be different, the experience will be different, and the end result will be different.

The end result is death. That doesn't change.

To see a row of corpses and assume that death is the same for everyone is rather foolish, I would suggest.

Even though every leaf must fall from the tree in my garden, no two leaves will fall at exactly the same moment or land at exactly the same place.

But the end result is they are on the ground.

That is not how the universe works; it is full of uniqueness, full of moments that can never be repeated or duplicated. Every leaf will fall in its own unique way.

Yes, but how a star explodes doesn't matter. The end result is that a star exploded.

Catherineanne said:
Your work? Don't make me laugh. : D

I am an ordained harbinger of death. I lived (ironically) for about 4 centuries. I took Napoleon off his high horse.

In the prohibition era I was known as Al CaBone or Grimmy, The Butcher.

bhsmte · May 22, 2015

Catherineanne said:
Every death is a transition from one state to another state, like birth. This transition is irreversible, and it is different every single time. Although it is true that all life must die, that does not mean that every death is the same. Every death is unique, just as every snowflake is unique.

The process will always be different, the experience will be different, and the end result will be different. To see a row of corpses and assume that death is the same for everyone is rather foolish, I would suggest.

Even though every leaf must fall from the tree in my garden, no two leaves will fall at exactly the same moment or land at exactly the same place. That is not how the universe works; it is full of uniqueness, full of moments that can never be repeated or duplicated. Every leaf will fall in its own unique way.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

Do you have this opinion based on any objective evidence, or is it a part of your faith belief, which brings you to these conclusions?

GrimKingGrim · May 22, 2015

TillICollapse said:
Oh snap. lol

Role Playing is fun.

TillICollapse · May 22, 2015

GrimKingGrim said:
Role Playing is fun.

You need to give 'em more cow bell ;-)

Davian · May 22, 2015

GrimKingGrim said:
It's called a personification

I prefer anthropomorphic projection.

Catherineanne · May 22, 2015

bhsmte said:
Ok, thanks for clarifying.

Do you have this opinion based on any objective evidence, or is it a part of your faith belief, which brings you to these conclusions?

I am not sure I can split that particular hair. The objective evidence is from watching leaves fall and seeing people die.

My faith would be about what happens after death, which none of us can really know for sure. But we can know about what we see, and you can do that as easily as I can.

Catherineanne · May 22, 2015

GrimKingGrim said:
And you're born. I see no difference.

Hmmm, no.

The end result is death. That doesn't change.

But the end result is they are on the ground.

Yes, but how a star explodes doesn't matter. The end result is that a star exploded.

I am an ordained harbinger of death. I lived (ironically) for about 4 centuries. I took Napoleon off his high horse.

In the prohibition era I was known as Al CaBone or Grimmy, The Butcher.

You rather fancy yourself, don't you?

: D

GrimKingGrim · May 22, 2015

Catherineanne said:
You rather fancy yourself, don't you?

: D

We all have imagination. I just choose to exercise it.

Catherineanne · May 22, 2015

GrimKingGrim said:
Role Playing is fun.

It would be more fun for the rest of us if you were better at it. The whole point of the Grim Reaper is that he is reaping good souls to eternity, bad ones to destruction. If, as you suggest, he reaps us all to oblivion, then that is nothing whatever to fear for anyone. Who would fear going to sleep forever and never waking up?

The only Grim Reaper who could potentially be feared is one in a Christian context of damnation, which you reject. And by rejecting that you effectively blunt the edge of your scythe and make it useless to frighten anyone. Except yourself, of course. I suspect you are the only one frightened here.

Good luck with that one.

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