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Dinosaurs would still be here.

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Global Evidences of the Genesis Flood

This is a fantastic article on some of the evidence that supports Noah's flood.

Fossils are evidence of the death of all life during Noah's flood, and how all those things got buried. There are sea creatures on the tops of the Himalayas, the Alps, the Andes, the Rockies. How did they get up there?
Do we have to go through the geology of mountain building?

Simple Google search:
Fossils are found on top of mountains because of the geological process of plate tectonics, where the Earth's tectonic plates collide and push up the seafloor, which was once where marine organisms lived, to form mountains, thus bringing the fossils to high elevations; essentially, the mountain was once underwater where the fossils were formed, and then uplifted over time due to plate movement."
 
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I just watched as short clip of Neil deGrasse Tyson that put things into a different perspective for me.

"Dinosaurs were around for 200 million years before the asteroid struck. And it's only been 65 million years since. So given that fact it's likely that if the asteroid did not strike, they would still be here and we wouldn't"
Well astonishingly we still have some relatives of them. The closest things we have to modern Dinosaurs are the Crocodilians. Also the cassowary, native to Oceania. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a blessing in disguise they don’t still exist as we most likely would be in constant struggle for survival. Especially against the larger carnivorous species.

But nonetheless, a very cool and interesting perspective.
 
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Genesis 6-9 describe the flood. Several other places in the Bible confirm this.

Many discoveries have already been made, that there indeed was a world-wide flood. Even without evidence we can trust the Word of God.
“Indeed was“ is an insult to intelligence.

And to any God.

” Without evidence”..

There is abundant disproof of “flood” as any educated person knows.
 
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Well astonishingly we still have some relatives of them. The closest things we have to modern Dinosaurs are the Crocodilians. Also the cassowary, native to Oceania. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a blessing in disguise they don’t still exist as we most likely would be in constant struggle for survival. Especially against the larger carnivorous species.

But nonetheless, a very cool and interesting perspective.
All birds not just cassowary ARE dinosaurs.

crocodilians are quite distant
 
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Always thought crocodilians were closest to dinosaurs?!

Not in the slightest. Crocodiles come from an earlier family of reptiles that evolved long before dinosaurs came to the scene.
 
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Always thought crocodilians were closest to dinosaurs?!
What about alligators?

I only know the nose is different in crocodiles and alligators. Science was never my strong suit ;)
 
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We humans, sometimes get science wrong.

We sometimes read the Bible wrong too.

"Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of the world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although 'they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion'." - St. Augustine of Hippo, On the Literal Meaning of Genesis

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Genesis 6-9 describe the flood. Several other places in the Bible confirm this.

Many discoveries have already been made, that there indeed was a world-wide flood. Even without evidence we can trust the Word of God.

There is no geological evidence for a global flood.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Well astonishingly we still have some relatives of them. The closest things we have to modern Dinosaurs are the Crocodilians. Also the cassowary, native to Oceania. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a blessing in disguise they don’t still exist as we most likely would be in constant struggle for survival. Especially against the larger carnivorous species.

But nonetheless, a very cool and interesting perspective.

We have living dinosaurs, we just call them birds.

Crocodiles are distantly related to dinosaurs, though they are more closely related to dinosaurs than other living "reptiles", e.g. snakes and lizards, tuataras, and turtles (the exact cladistic relationship of turtles is still a major source of ongoing study).

It is highly likely that had the KT extinction event not happened that the non-avian dinosaurs would have continued to exist for much longer; but it's impossible to say they would have survived into modern times. Over the past 65 million years the earth has underwent significant climatological changes, it's possible that many--perhaps even most--of the non-avian dinosaurs would not have ultimately survived these changes. All we really can say is that without the KT extinction event life on planet Earth would look a lot different than it does; in what ways it would be different is impossible to know, but the KT extinction event ended the reign of the non-avian dinosaurs and opened the world up to be conquered by the mammals, including ourselves.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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So it didn't happen?
The scientific position on a global flood is that there is no evidence to support it, but the lack of evidence does not prevent some from believing in a global flood.
 
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The scientific position on a global flood is that there is no evidence to support it, but the lack of evidence does not prevent some from believing in a global flood.
More than that, there is considerable evidence that if there was a global flood, it didn't happen in the 3rd millenium BC.
 
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More than that, there is considerable evidence that if there was a global flood, it didn't happen in the 3rd millenium BC.
really? Never heard this before. when did they say it happened. and what evidence do they use to support it?
 
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really? Never heard this before. when did they say it happened. and what evidence do they use to support it?
Science doesn't say it happened at any time, just that there is no evidence that it ever happened. As for the biblical date, too much is known about what was happening at that time to fit it in.
 
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