You fabricate the view that Genesis is an allegorical story....mainly because of what your 5th grade science teacher taught you.
Believe your bible.
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Perhaps you had better confine yourself to expressing your own views, rather than fabricating views for others.
I could be wrong here, but I think denialists think we acquire a sin nature the moment we commit our first sin.In your numerous post you have.
If you had not denied it...then how did we get a sin nature?
I could be wrong here, but I think denialists think we acquire a sin nature the moment we commit our first sin.
Thus, the objective is to get an infant baptized as soon as possible, before he commits his first sin.
In God's way, we are born with a sin nature, and baptism is an ordinance, not a sacrament.
No, but at least when you pull stuff out of you-know-where you admit it might be wrong.I could be wrong here, but I think denialists think we acquire a sin nature the moment we commit our first sin.
Thus, the objective is to get an infant baptized as soon as possible, before he commits his first sin.
In God's way, we are born with a sin nature, and baptism is an ordinance, not a sacrament.
No, my 5th grade science teacher had nothing to do with it. It's something I learned at Church.You fabricate the view that Genesis is an allegorical story....mainly because of what your 5th grade science teacher taught you.
Believe your bible.
And nothing we can say to you will ever cause you to change that belief.
No, my 5th grade science teacher had nothing to do with it. It's something I learned at Church.
That doesn't mean I believe in your preposterous "sin gene." When you accuse me of that you lie.Yes, I've...and others...asked you to explain why we have a sin nature..and all you do is shrug your shoulders and tell us Genesis was allegorical.
There are no such portions, so they didn't have to leave anything out.It's pretty obvious that church that taught you this....doesn't have the answer either.
...do you ever wonder why they left out all the other portions of the Bible that say Genesis was literal and historical?
Too late. He beat me to it.
Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Just educating you.
As I've posted before....Paul definitely knew that Adam and Ever were literal and historical.
Here's how we knew....Paul sent a letter to Timothy. The letter instructed women on how to act in church. What did Paul base this instruction on?
2nd Tim 2:13 For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression.
Why would Paul impose a rule on the women based upon an allegorical story?
I agree with you!!!! Jesus didn't literally rise from the dead.
Yes science has shown us a lot. Genesis is an allegory....even science has shown dead people stay dead on day 3.....The resurrection you believe in was also an allegory.
....see how great science is!!!
It's your science that you like to use a proof that the Bible is simply a just so allegorical story that says so.
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For a christian you eager to deny our sin nature then and the need for Christ.
What can I say???
You have..in your many post here.
Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, Heli, Matthat, Levi, Melki, Jannai, Joseph, Mattathias, Amos, Nahum, Esli, Naggai, Maath, Mattathias, Semein, Josech, Joda, Joanan, Rhesa, Zerubbabel, Shealtiel, Neri, Melki, Addi, Cosam, Elmadam, Er, Joshua, Eliezer, Jorim, Matthat, Levi, Simeon, Judah, Joseph, Jonam, Eliakim, Melea, Menna, Mattatha, Nathan, David, Jesse, Obed, Boaz, Salmon, Nahshon, Amminadab, Ram, Hezron, Perez, Judah, Jacob, Isaac, Abraham, Terah, Nahor, Serug, Reu, Peleg, Eber, Shelah, Cainan, Arphaxad, Shem, Noah, Lamech, Methuselah, Enoch, Jared, Mahalalel, Kenan, Enosh, Seth, Adam, God.
This list of geneologies was taken from the bible....where does it turn form fact to fiction?
I could be wrong here, but I think denialists think we acquire a sin nature the moment we commit our first sin.
Thus, the objective is to get an infant baptized as soon as possible, before he commits his first sin.
In God's way, we are born with a sin nature, and baptism is an ordinance, not a sacrament.
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.I do not see anything in Hebrews 10 that requires a literal existence of Adam and Eve.
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
If Jesus is the last Adam, who is the first?
Then who is Eve?He is making the point that mankind (adam) is from earth - physical creatures. Jesus is from heaven. By believing in Him, we (mankind) are elevated in spirit.
Again, clearly interpretable without need for literal interpretation of Genesis.
Then who is Eve?
And if you say "the mother of all living," then ... even allegorically ... how did [mankind] come before [the mother of all living]?
1 Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
And while you're at it, please tell me who [mankind] is ... um ... having a relationship with in this verse?
Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife;
Romans 5:12 Adam is one man, not mankind. Jesus is one man, not mankind.He is making the point that mankind (adam) is from earth - physical creatures. Jesus is from heaven. By believing in Him, we (mankind) are elevated in spirit.
Again, clearly interpretable without need for literal interpretation of Genesis.
Romans 5:12 Adam is one man, not mankind. Jesus is one man, not mankind.
Let me get this straight?Mankind is having relations with womankind - isn't that obvious?
Let me get this straight?
Mankind (Adam) is from earth and having relations with womankind (Eve).
Where is womankind from?
Even allegorically, you have to admit that the Bible says womankind came from mankind, do you not?
After all, mankind (Adam) wrote that God put them to sleep, took all their ribs, and when they all woke up, there were women there.
And please ... do tell me who Seth is ... would you?
Allegorically speaking, of course.
(And don't lose any continuity in your story.)
The reason I'm asking these questions is to show you (okay, lurkers) that denialists like to claim Adam and Eve were just an allegory ... but then stop right there and can't tell us where the allegory ends and literalism takes up.
And for those who do ... like the ones who say Genesis 1 - 11 is allegorical ... won't give us the whole allegory.
But anyway, let's forget the whole story for now.
Just tell me who Seth is, according to Plato (or whomever popularized the allegorical method).
"Hit the one in the middle." -Rocky IVRomans 5:12 Adam is one man, not mankind.
Then I'd hate to be a Hebrew with that name.Adam is a figurative representation of mankind (adam means mankind in Hebrew).
Oh, my.I think all of Genesis is allegory.
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