Well, add it up, God led me to Him by a circuitous route including many so-called 'conspiracy theories', geocentrism being the biggest one. You could read Galileo was Wrong, by Sungenis et al as a good starting point. Or watch the doco The Principle. Although this may come as a surprise, no experiment or observation has ever detected any of the 4 or 5 distinct motions of the earth through space claimed by the standard model. Idk how a person can accept the Gen creation account on its face and also endorse heliocentrism/ standard model cosmology.
That's another anomaly however I think that Genesis 1 is the "cliff notes" of creation given to Moses it's missing a lot of detail because it was never intended that God would describe to Moses how to create a universe, He gave an account sufficient for Moses' purpose which is, that He created the world, He created man, and that is why we should obey Him and worship Him. There is some other detail in the order of things being created, but a lot of people read into the language of Genesis and assume that God spoke everything into existence but if you read Genesis 1 carefully, he doesn't speak everything into existence there are separations where God speaks, and then a separate verse where God creates something, without specifying how. People make an assumption that speaking did the creating, but God took an entire day to create various things, while speaking is instant. That leaves a lot of room for science to discover the "how". DNA being a common blueprint to all life on the planet is a clue that God may have been engineering us from splicing DNA in a form of Theistic "evolution" rather than things poofing out of nothing. God specifically demonstrated in Genesis 2 with the creation of Eve that He has absolutely no problem creating life from previous life rather than speaking it into existence. God demonstrated speaking things into existence (specifically light, and I think plants was the other one where speaking and the plants just appeared suddenly without a separate verse for creating), breathing life into an inanimate object that He sculpted, and essentially cloning a life form to create another life form with modifications (in this case removing a Y chromosome and making her XX). God doesn't limit His acts of creation to one specific way and neither should we.@Jamdoc Am I assuming correctly that would then require the the man and woman created in Genesis 1 not be the Adam and Eve created in the Garden?
I'm not even sure im supposed to take this post seriously or as a joke.
lets also put it this way: God's wisdom can't be proven factually wrong, so if you insist whatever beliefs you have are from God and they are silly because of evidence then your views are not of God.Let's put it this way: the wisdom of God is foolishness to the world.
Yes, I thought geocentrism was a joke when I first stumbled across it (praise God!). But it turns out to be factually based. Fully endorsed by the HS, both personally and Biblically. (Also endorsed by many top physicists.)lets also put it this way: God's wisdom can't be proven factually wrong, so if you insist whatever beliefs you have are from God and they are silly because of evidence then your views are not of God.
and this is why you need to re-evaluate the spirit behind your beliefs. Just going back to your statement on "God's wisdom being foolish to those who are not of him". This is a belief that many false prophets have had in defense of their views, from Joseph Smith, Harold Camping, and even those who have committed genocide. How do we just prove them invalid, with another Bible verse match?Yes, I thought geocentrism was a joke when I first stumbled across it (praise God!). But it turns out to be factually based. Fully endorsed by the HS, both personally and Biblically. (Also endorsed by many top physicists.)
Uh.. Geocentrism is something we can OBSERVE to be wrong..
probes that we send out into space to other planets ONLY work because our gravity and orbital equations are based on a heliocentric model, they would not work in a geocentric model.
and this is why you need to re-evaluate the spirit behind your beliefs. Just going back to your statement on "God's wisdom being foolish to those who are not of him". This is a belief that many false prophets have had in defense of their views, from Joseph Smith, Harold Camping, and even those who have committed genocide. How do we just prove them invalid, with another Bible verse match?
Perhaps according to you. But not according to top physicists.
Thanks but I surmise that like I did, you hold many assumptions which you haven't questioned and investigated. I would recommend that, on the basis that for a man to answereth a matter before he hears it, it's a folly and shame.
Man died both spiritually and physically after eating the fruit.
Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned-
Biblical death is nephesh (נפש), meaning ‘living being’ or ‘soul’ only things with the soul count as Biblical death. Plants do not have soul.
Right. But scripture was never referring to physical death.
It was only referring to spiritual death. Physical death is inevitable.
In order for NO death to have existed prior to sin, all animals, and all plants, all bacteria, all fungi, all protists, everything would have to also not reproduce ?
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