Dinosaurs and Man

[ddrgkd]

First of all, I don't subscribe to the belief in evolution (not sure where you got that from). Secondly, radio carbon dating is a proven science that has remained constant.

I wanted to cover all the bases just in case. What I'm really concerned with is your salvation. Have you asked Christ for salvation?

 

[MatthewDiscipleofGod]

I'm not laughing at God's Word, I'm laughing at your faulty interpretation of it. Science has proven your beliefs wrong time and time again, so I understand if that's a bit hard to deal with. But, my eyes are plenty opened, and by reason no less. But thanks for your concern.

BTW, how do you know exactly how old your dinosaur fossils are? Did you have them dated?

No, you are actually laughing at God's word but in the end all will have the proper interpretation. Genesis/Exodus is rather clear on the issue. I have been dealing with scoffers for many years so your kind of response is just the same old and to be expected. I use to be an evolutionist, pro abortionist and would mock others that believed the Earth was young. Now I just happen to be on the other end of it.

I love science and have not seen any solid proof of billions of years. You can interpret what happened long ago in different ways and that is why there are disagreements. We all have the same facts.

Since fossils don't come with dates on them I can't tell you exactly but most are probably from around the time of the flood. I believe the amber I have with insects in it could be younger but I need to study the formation of amber a little more before I draw any conclusions. I could also give you the dates the evolutionist would give because normally they won't even bother to use radiometric dating. They will just ask where it was found. Dating is not all what it is cracked up to be. That is why courting is the way to go. Can't always be serious!

 

[PrincetonGuy]

Some people do not know the difference between science and religion. Science tells us that the earth is billions of years old, but some people believe that science is a branch of religion, and they interpret science to make it appear to be in harmony with the rest of their religion, thereby making a mockery of science, the Bible, and the Christian faith.

 

[MatthewDiscipleofGod]

Some people do not know the difference between science and religion. Science tells us that the earth is billions of years old, but some people believe that science is a branch of religion, and they interpret science to make it appear to be in harmony with the rest of their religion, thereby making a mockery of science, the Bible, and the Christian faith.

Science doesn't tell us anything. You of all people should know attributing human attributes to something such as science is a logical fallacy.

 

[leothelioness]

I wanted to cover all the bases just in case. What I'm really concerned with is your salvation. Have you asked Christ for salvation?

LOL, can you not see my icon where it specifically states that I am a Christian? Can I ask why you think I'm not a Christian? Because I believe in Old Earth Creation?

BTW, are you aware of the forum rules about accusing professing Christians of being non-Christian? Just letting you know.

 

[leothelioness]

Oh, my. I feel sorry for you. It's always easier to live ingnorance isn't it, Matthew?

No, you are actually laughing at God's word but in the end all will have the proper interpretation.

No, I'm still laughing at your faulty interpretation of it. There is nothing in the Bible that states that the Earth was made in six literal days. People obviously conveniently forget the fact that time was non-existant before the Fall. The Creation account is written in poetic prose and is not meant to be taken literally.

Genesis/Exodus is rather clear on the issue. I have been dealing with scoffers for many years so your kind of response is just the same old and to be expected. I use to be an evolutionist, pro abortionist and would mock others that believed the Earth was young. Now I just happen to be on the other end of it.

Seems you went too far in the other direction.

I love science and have not seen any solid proof of billions of years. You can interpret what happened long ago in different ways and that is why there are disagreements. We all have the same facts.

You love your idea of what science is.

Since fossils don't come with dates on them I can't tell you exactly but most are probably from around the time of the flood. I believe the amber I have with insects in it could be younger but I need to study the formation of amber a little more before I draw any conclusions. I could also give you the dates the evolutionist would give because normally they won't even bother to use radiometric dating. They will just ask where it was found. Dating is not all what it is cracked up to be. That is why courting is the way to go. Can't always be serious!

They can be radio carbon dated which is the only way to know the exact age of a fossil. If you really studied science you would know the method behind it.

 

[leothelioness]

Interpret this:

Gen 1:5
"And there was evening and there was morning, one day."

Gen 1:8
And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.

Gen 1:13
And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.

Gen 1:19
And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

Gen 1:23
And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.

Gen 1:31
And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.


I can definitely see how you would interpret this as millions of years.


BTW, how do you interpret Matthew 16:21:

"From that time Jesus Christ began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day."

Is He still in the ground, waiting on a few million years?

I suppose that is a legitimate interpretation, in keeping with the rules some use in interpreting Genesis. :o

Since physical time did not exist then and the Creation account was written in poetic prose as I said before, yes, you can absolutely interpret that as billions of years. God's time is not our own. Why do people have such a hard time understanding this simple fact?

 

[MatthewDiscipleofGod]

Oh, my. I feel sorry for you. It's always easier to live ingnorance isn't it, Matthew?

They can be radio carbon dated which is the only way to know the exact age of a fossil. If you really studied science you would know the method behind it.

So according to you I'm an ignorant person who's ideas are laughable and you are surprised that I'm not locked up because I own fossils... Let me ask you one question which to I hope you give a straightforward answer. Do you feel any conviction that saying these things to me might be wrong?

To address your carbon dating comment you need to know that evolutionists universally accept that carbon dating is only useful on once living things up to no longer than 62,000 years ago. Which is interesting because diamonds, which are suppose to be much older, contain carbon according to secular labs. There are other dating methods used to get the dates of fossils. You should mention those out next time you look to rebuke a person with my views.

 

[MichaelKelley]

So were there dinosaurs on the ark? Why didn't they survive and were all species included?

"Scientists around the world find thousand’s of dinosaur bones where they were washed together by the flood in Noah's days buried in mud, sand and rock."

Source plz.


Leviticus 11:29-30 (New International Version, ©2011)

29 “‘Of the animals that move along the ground, these are unclean for you: the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard, 30 the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the chameleon."

That biblical proof of man living with dinosaurs? Or mention of a Nile crocodile? Well crocodiles move along the ground...most dinosaurs did not.

Leviticus 11:29 "'Of the animals that move about on the ground, these are unclean for you: the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard,

"The tortoise - צב tsab. Most critics allow that the tortoise is not intended here, but rather the crocodile, the frog, or the toad. The frog is most probably the animal meant, and all other creatures of its kind."

View this page I have compiled on Creation and the Dinosaurs. Most of the videos/articles are fairly short and to the point (some are long). Dinosaurs lived with man. http://biblestudynow.webs.com/creationthedinosaurs.htm

 

[leothelioness]

So according to you I'm an ignorant person who's ideas are laughable and you are surprised that I'm not locked up because I own fossils... Let me ask you one question which to I hope you give a straightforward answer. Do you feel any conviction that saying these things to me might be wrong?

No, I don't. Should I?

To address your carbon dating comment you need to know that evolutionists universally accept that carbon dating is only useful on once living things up to no longer than 62,000 years ago.

Hmm, I've never heard this. Care to provide some articles and information on this? I'd be interested in checking them out.

 

[ddrgkd]

LOL, can you not see my icon where it specifically states that I am a Christian? Can I ask why you think I'm not a Christian? Because I believe in Old Earth Creation?

BTW, are you aware of the forum rules about accusing professing Christians of being non-Christian? Just letting you know.

I just do it out of caring. I will ask someone if there saved if I get a feeling that there not. A lot of professing Christians have never asked Christ for salvation. Why that is I don’t know and I can see your icon.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything. What I am doing is asking if you’re saved have you ever asked Christ for salvation? That normally would not upset anyone. Can you give me your testimony?

 

[leothelioness]

I just do it out of caring. I will ask someone if there saved if I get a feeling that there not. A lot of professing Christians have never asked Christ for salvation. Why that is I don’t know and I can see your icon.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything. What I am doing is asking if you’re saved have you ever asked Christ for salvation? That normally would not upset anyone. Can you give me your testimony?

That's what our profiles are for. It's there if you care to look. And, yes, I asked Jesus Christ for my salvation at age 7.

 

[ddrgkd]

That's what our profiles are for. It's there if you care to look. And, yes, I asked Jesus Christ for my salvation at age 7.

thank you

 

[MatthewDiscipleofGod]

No, I don't. Should I?


Hmm, I've never heard this. Care to provide some articles and information on this? I'd be interested in checking them out.

If you are a Christ follower I would hope so.

General information on Carbon Dating from a hostile source.

Dating article from my point of view.

 

[realtruth101]

Since physical time did not exist then and the Creation account was written in poetic prose as I said before, yes, you can absolutely interpret that as billions of years. God's time is not our own. Why do people have such a hard time understanding this simple fact?

I don't think anyone would argue that God's not bound by time or space, the arguement ensues with basic hermenuetics, the bible was written for people who are in time and understand things according to time. the bible was written for humans, hermenuetically the bible says day and night to show us humans, how long it took God to complete creation. to be perfectly honest with you, I think God could of created everything in less than a second, but I have a very big God!, when He speaks He doesn't need 15 billion light years to get light from here to there, IT JUST IS! figure that out science! God will make the wise look foolish, its what He likes to do!

 

[leothelioness]

I don't think anyone would argue that God's not bound by time or space, the arguement ensues with basic hermenuetics, the bible was written for people who are in time and understand things according to time. the bible was written for humans, hermenuetically the bible says day and night to show us humans, how long it took God to complete creation. to be perfectly honest with you, I think God could of created everything in less than a second, but I have a very big God!, when He speaks He doesn't need 15 billion light years to get light from here to there, IT JUST IS! figure that out science! God will make the wise look foolish, its what He likes to do!

Yabbut, the Jews have always held to an allegorical view of the Creation account. Even before the birth of Christ. And if you study Genesis, you'll notice that the prose that is used for the Creation account is different from the rest of Genesis. The Creation account is written in a poetic prose whereas the rest of Genesis is written in a more realistic, historical style.

 

[leothelioness]

If you are a Christ follower I would hope so.

General information on Carbon Dating from a hostile source.

Dating article from my point of view.

So, if I'm a follower of Christ I shouldn't disagree with you?

You place yourself on a mighty high pedestal don't you, Matthew?

 

[realtruth101]

Yabbut, the Jews have always held to an allegorical view of the Creation account. Even before the birth of Christ. And if you study Genesis, you'll notice that the prose that is used for the Creation account is different from the rest of Genesis. The Creation account is written in a poetic prose whereas the rest of Genesis is written in a more realistic, historical style.

creation is poetry in motion, regardless there's a genealogy from Adam to Christ were do you see where the scripture goes from fiction to nonfiction, and as far as the Jews interpretation of Genesis, I have only the 66 books, and 40 or so inspired authors, and apostles and Jesus's words to go on, and none of them refered to the creation story as allegorical, so I think I'll stick with them Jews as to how THEY interpreted genesis, but thanks!

 

[Hentenza]

People obviously conveniently forget the fact that time was non-existant before the Fall.

You know this how?

 

[leothelioness]

Um, because eternity is incompatible with time. Pretty simple really. Adam and Eve and the Garden were created to be eternal, but through disobedience were punished through the promise of an eventual death.

Do you people not read the Bible or something? Jeez.