Dinos in the Ark?

Opethian · Jan 5, 2006

No, I put no stock in evo delusional attempted humor, that is based on crediting the belief with some reality. You claim a physical only past where adapting rates were the same as now, but can offer nothing but statements of faith to back it up!
God told the serpent to get on it's belly, and whatever kind of creature it was, it evolved in a hurry to what He said, and slithered away! If we look at the ark of the covenant, we see that animal instincts were overruled. The 'programming' they were left with from the split was updated, in other words! When the spiritual is added, and present, all PO rules are irelevant. The cow left it's young, and led the ark exactly where it should go, back towards Israel, not turning to stop at the sound of it's calf calling mommy! The spiritual, and physical together seems more in touch with His will, and need not operate of former instructions, instincts, etc etc. It's a now kinda thing happening with the spiritual.

We offer not statements of faith but evidence. Everything science has yet discovered points to an earth that is billions of years old. Things that cannot be denied, from the entire spectrum of science. But what would you know, you have no scientifical knowledge at all...
The whole process of evolution is in conflict with "evolving in a hurry", and whatever else you claim. Your world where the spiritual and the physical are one is just a fantasy of your mind, that holds true in your mind, only because you have such a limited knowledge and intelligence that there is nothing in your brain that can contradict it.

dad · Jan 5, 2006

Opethian said:
I have yet to see anything at all support your delusional fantasies. Besides the delusions you make up to support the other ones.

Your acceptance of a delusional unsupportable past, is your measurement for just about everything. No wonder you can't see the writing on the wall. The bible is anything but nothing at all. I have all evidence, all science, and the known spiritual reality, and the bible. You have religion, nothing more.

Opethian · Jan 5, 2006

Your acceptance of a delusional unsupportable past, is your measurement for just about everything. No wonder you can't see the writing on the wall. The bible is anything but nothing at all. I have all evidence, all science, and the known spiritual reality, and the bible. You have religion, nothing more.

All you have is delusional talk. Give me ONE piece of scientific evidence that truly supports your fantasy?

dad · Jan 5, 2006

llDayo said:
You're still claiming they were excluded, just not in the same sense as darknight was. You're just saying that they were probably extinct before the flood. I probably should included: or show where God killed off these huge beasts and no one noticed they weren't walking around anymore (kind of hard to miss something weighing more than an 18 wheeler).

Being extinct does not mean God killed them. We would have killed a lot, no doubt, as masters of this world. We have brains, like the natives in the praries who stampeded bison off the cliffs. We have ways.
Man's sin caused a lot of changes, and suffering for all creation. Don't blame God. Seems the question is what layer was the flood? With the split, I could see it way up where the ice age is given credit for everything even? Not too many dinos there.

Opethian · Jan 5, 2006

Being extinct does not mean God killed them. We would have killed a lot, no doubt, as masters of this world. We have brains, like the natives in the praries who stampeded bison off the cliffs. We have ways.
Man's sin caused a lot of changes, and suffering for all creation. Don't blame God. Seems the question is what layer was the flood? With the split, I could see it way up where the ice age is given credit for everything even? Not too many dinos there.

A global flood never happened, and has been disproved a thousand times. It has been proven that a large local flood happened around the where the black sea is nowadays, which will most likely have spawned the story by exaggeration. Get this idiotic flood idea out of your head.
As for people in that age being able to get the dinosaurs to be extinct? Sorry but no way. The idea of humans and dinosaurs living together is already moronic, and humans in that age being able to get the dinosaurs extinct is edging to the ideas from someone with the brain capacity of an amoeba ( 0 if you were wondering, since you have absolutely no scientific knowledge at all! ).

Phred · Jan 5, 2006

dad said:
Your acceptance of a delusional unsupportable past, is your measurement for just about everything.

Celebrity Jeopardy.

No wonder you can't see the writing on the wall.

Hollywood Squares.

The bible is anything but nothing at all.

The Simpsons.

I have all evidence, all science, and the known spiritual reality, and the bible. You have religion, nothing more.

One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest.

dad · Jan 5, 2006

Opethian said:
Opethian said:

We offer not statements of faith but evidence.

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No more than I do. You have simply thought you had a monopoly on the evidence till now. Move over, Rover, and let the truth take over.

Everything science has yet discovered points to an earth that is billions of years old.

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Wake up, and smell the roses. not a speck, not an iota of evidence exists, nothing but assumptions and belief, viewing my evidence. Nothing!!!!!

Things that cannot be denied, from the entire spectrum of science.

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As I said nothing bur=t assumptions and belief, go back and do your homework.

But what would you know, you have no scientifical knowledge at all...
The whole process of evolution is in conflict with "evolving in a hurry",

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Thats because it's a croc, and nothing more than observations of how the creation now adapts. The rest is imagination market.

and whatever else you claim. Your world where the spiritual and the physical are one is just a fantasy of your mind,

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The bible is not in my mind, but the fantasy past you were taught is only in the mind.

that holds true in your mind, only because you have such a limited knowledge and intelligence that there is nothing in your brain that can contradict it.

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It isn't in the heads of men, it is written in the bible, and matches the evidence. The claims of falsifications of the flood, etc are now shown to be nothing more than physical only based non applicable ideas!

dad · Jan 5, 2006

Opethian said:
All you have is delusional talk. Give me ONE piece of scientific evidence that truly supports your fantasy?

All you have is delusional talk. Give me ONE piece of scientific evidence that truly supports your fantasy? All you have is PO spinning of the evidence!

dad · Jan 5, 2006

Phred said:
Celebrity Jeopardy.

Hollywood Squares.

The Simpsons.

One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest.

Thanks for backing up your case. Sorry, it still is nothing.

Opethian · Jan 5, 2006

No more than I do. You have simply thought you had a monopoly on the evidence till now. Move over, Rover, and let the truth take over.

I ask you again: POST YOUR EVIDENCE !!!
Evidence for the universe being billions of years old has already been posted in countless threads on this forum and I imagine you've seen it, but couldn't understand one thing about it, since you lack knowledge of basic science, and also lack a brain.
Your fantasy about the present being different, would mean that the physical constants would be different in the past, which DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS MATHS, the only science that can prove something 100%.
Moreso, since evidence for the earth being old comes from the entire spectrum of science, and has a lot of different aspects, your explanation for certain things being different in the past, to be able to correct for one aspect of our present explanation, would contradict itself, since it would have to change somethings in 2 different ways at the same time, to be able to hold true for another explanation. This is logical, certainly from the viewpoint of maths, since something that contradicts itself, is proven false. As is your theory. Nothing but pathetic delusional ideas that are easily disproven. So go ahead and keep living in your pathetic fantasy world, and try to even get one person to take you serious. Go ahead, try and get one person to be as delusional as yourself. It will take you a lifetime, without ultimate success, and when you die, and finally think to go to heaven, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. You will decompose, to the piece of rotting, stinking garbage you already represent from the intellectual point of view.

dad · Jan 5, 2006

Opethian said:
Opethian said:

A global flood never happened, and has been disproved a thousand times.

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Worthless PO speculations, it turns out. It happened.

It has been proven that a large local flood happened around the where the black sea is nowadays, which will most likely have spawned the story by exaggeration. Get this idiotic flood idea out of your head.

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What you claim is proven is false, get that in to your head!

As for people in that age being able to get the dinosaurs to be extinct?

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I said we likely whacked some, not that we directly made em extinct. Pay attention. Their demise is open to discussion.

Sorry but no way. The idea of humans and dinosaurs living together is already moronic, and humans in that age being able to get the dinosaurs extinct is

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Territories of them and us may have crossed, and when that happens, we kill beasts. The making them extinct bit is your baby, not mine.

edging to the ideas from someone with the brain capacity of an amoeba ( 0 if you were wondering, since you have absolutely no scientific knowledge at all! ).

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Science has limitations, believe it, or not. You have absolutely no spiritually scientific knowledge at all! You are one leg short of a pair.

Phred · Jan 5, 2006

dad said:
Thanks for backing up your case. Sorry, it still is nothing.

Chocolate.

Opethian · Jan 5, 2006

Science has limitations, believe it, or not. You have absolutely no spiritually scientific knowledge at all! You are one leg short of a pair.

I have no spiritually scientific knowledge, since spiritual science=delusions. Sorry but you can keep the delusions to yourself. I'll stick with the proven facts.

Phred · Jan 5, 2006

Opethian said:

Pssst... dad's nuts. You can answer with well thought out debate or you can answer with ice cream flavors or TV shows... you get the same response.

dad · Jan 5, 2006

Opethian said:
Opethian said:

I ask you again: POST YOUR EVIDENCE !!!

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It is the same as yours, like the fossil record, interpreted differently, and the known spiritual factor, and the bible as well.

Evidence for the universe being billions of years old has already been posted in countless threads on this forum and I imagine you've seen it,

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No, it hasn't, that is old ager's take on the evidence. Just fantasizing baselessly.

but couldn't understand one thing about it, since you lack knowledge of basic science, and also lack a brain.

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You seem to be waxing ugly here, it will take more than a rotten attitude and a smelly mouth to back up your old age claims here.

Your fantasy about the present being different, would mean that the physical constants would be different in the past, which DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS MATHS, the only science that can prove something 100%.

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No, you are mistaken, why make wild claims you can't back up? What math? Evolution goes against the math, the world is 6000 years old.

Moreso, since evidence for the earth being old comes from the entire spectrum of science, and has a lot of different aspects, your explanation for certain things being different in the past, to be able to correct for one aspect of our present explanation, would contradict itself, since it would have to change somethings in 2 different ways at the same time, to be able to hold true for another explanation.

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Spell it out, what are you ranting about now?

This is logical, certainly from the viewpoint of maths, since something that contradicts itself, is proven false. As is your theory.

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So show us what contradicts what, and quit blathering here.

Nothing but pathetic delusional ideas that are easily disproven.

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Yes, your case is that.

So go ahead and keep living in your pathetic fantasy world, and try to even get one person to take you serious. Go ahead, try and get one person to be as delusional as yourself. It will take you a lifetime, without ultimate success, and when you die, and finally think to go to heaven, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. You will decompose, to the piece of rotting, stinking garbage you already represent from the intellectual point of view.

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Ah, I thought your beef was with God. Euro wreaka.

dad · Jan 5, 2006

Phred said:
Chocolate.

I see, at least you are getting the color real close on your old age case here!

Phred · Jan 5, 2006

dad said:
I see, at least you are getting the color real close on your old age case here!

Anti-lock brakes.

Loudmouth · Jan 5, 2006

Q: Why didn't the Argonauts take the corpse of the Cyclops with them?

A: It was too big to fit on the Argo.

Woohoo, I have finally solved an important historical mystery.

dad · Jan 5, 2006

Opethian said:
I have no spiritually scientific knowledge, since spiritual science=delusions. Sorry but you can keep the delusions to yourself. I'll stick with the proven facts.

Like Granny, and the Speck, and your dream PO past you can't support? You are right, you have none of the knowledge that counts! The knowledge you think you have is colored with your old age beliefs, which neuters any value it could have!

dad · Jan 5, 2006

Phred said:
Anti-lock brakes.

Hey, I don't care how you get up your post count. No law you have to make sense. (Unfortunately)

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