Dinos in the Ark?

[dad]

So...you're saying that Antarctica a few thousand years ago was a tropical paradise? With trees and grass?

How do you explain ice cores? They go back tens of thousands of years.

Same as varves, the laying down was not as they claim. There was a cold blooded croc found up near the artic pole you know, it was very different in the past. What reason would I have to assume God made it cold to begin with? Doesn't make sense, Paradise shouldn't be that exteme cold.

 

[Split Rock]

As opposed to dinos that lived in water.

Can you give me some examples of dinos that lived in the water? Sauropods and hadrosaurs were terrestrial, by the way.

 

[Split Rock]

that could be a trick of the devil making them and saying evolution is real and god isnt.

You got to be kidding.

You know you are in bad shape if Dad tells you this!

 

[Split Rock]

He didn't there was hyper evolution in that different world, the adapting to cold likely came later.

This will be the third time I have asked you, Dad. Please explain to us how this "hyper-evolution" you made-up was supposed to have worked in the "pre-split" fantasy world of Dadology. Come on... you can come up with some answer, since you are of the "superior theories."

 

[franklin]

He didn't there was hyper evolution in that different world, the adapting to cold likely came later. Can you prove there was artic like conditions anywhere on earth then? No, I don't think so. And don't even think about a radioactive decay based arguement, there was no decay then.

Can you prove it was possible to fit millions of animals on that wooden tub of a sea vessel?

 

[dad]

http://www.oceansofkansas.com/Buell/polycot2.jpg

Can you give me some examples of dinos that lived in the water? Sauropods and hadrosaurs were terrestrial, by the way.

http://www.innvista.com/science/zoology/dinosaurs/sea.htm



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesiosaur

http://www.oceansofkansas.com/plesiosaur.html
So, some dinos at least in the often used sense of the word, if not modern preferred classification jargon, were water dinos. Others used to be considered so, but they now proclaim them things like maybe 'forest' dwellers. "
"Palaeontologists in the 19th Century assumed that giant sauropods like the long-necked brontosaur must have lived in water because they were as big as whales. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1470305.stm
In the pre split world, and pre flood, there was lots of water around, and the assumptions need to be revisited, because they are PO assumptions!
That their body weight would make them sink in the mud, etc. so maybe they weren't near water after all..etc.
If some dinos were largely water creatures, maybe they could have survived a flood?
But, either way, we need to simply look at the evidence here. Was Loch Ness really a 'dino'? These other supposed sightings at sea, if real, may indicate some survived the flood. What about the dino in Job? That " 41: 31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: "
Just because science lags in the knowing much about it department, doesn't mean such things were not so at all.

 

[dad]

Can you prove it was possible to fit millions of animals on that wooden tub of a sea vessel?

No need, there was hyper evolution, all they needed was the one basic kind. For example, all tiger species are said to have come from one original kind. Piece a cake.

PS I can't say it was wooden, as there may have been a meteal working process at the time called 'gopher wood' whereby they used wood and gopher debris, as it was first thought of perhaps, or sand, and made molds to pour the iron in!

 

[dad]

This will be the third time I have asked you, Dad. Please explain to us how this "hyper-evolution" you made-up was supposed to have worked in the "pre-split" fantasy world of Dadology. Come on... you can come up with some answer, since you are of the "superior theories."

Christians have superior theories because they include a necessary part of the equation, the spiritual. Adapting now is quite a pitiful little process, because of the way that the life was left in the physical only universe, and the damages and lacks a body had to adjust to. It actually is pretty in depth, everything from diet, where we needed no meat then, to radiation damage, and many other things.

 

[Nathan Poe]

PS I can't say it was wooden, as there may have been a meteal working process at the time called 'gopher wood' whereby they used wood and gopher debris, as it was first thought of perhaps, or sand, and made molds to pour the iron in!

"Gopher wood metal?"

Nice parody, dad.

 

[Industriaan]

http://www.innvista.com/science/zoology/dinosaurs/sea.htm



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesiosaur

http://www.oceansofkansas.com/plesiosaur.html
So, some dinos at least in the often used sense of the word, if not modern preferred classification jargon, were water dinos. Others used to be considered so, but they now proclaim them things like maybe 'forest' dwellers. "
"Palaeontologists in the 19th Century assumed that giant sauropods like the long-necked brontosaur must have lived in water because they were as big as whales. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1470305.stm
In the pre split world, and pre flood, there was lots of water around, and the assumptions need to be revisited, because they are PO assumptions!
That their body weight would make them sink in the mud, etc. so maybe they weren't near water after all..etc.
If some dinos were largely water creatures, maybe they could have survived a flood?
But, either way, we need to simply look at the evidence here. Was Loch Ness really a 'dino'? These other supposed sightings at sea, if real, may indicate some survived the flood. What about the dino in Job? That " 41: 31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: "
Just because science lags in the knowing much about it department, doesn't mean such things were not so at all.

dinos did not in the seas, the saurus-species that did are not classified as dinosaurs, bust as something else, the same with the flying sorts as a pteranodon or a quetzalquaqulus

 

[Opethian]

No need, there was hyper evolution, all they needed was the one basic kind. For example, all tiger species are said to have come from one original kind. Piece a cake.

Piece of cake in your mind, since all the gaps in your ridiculous ideas are covered up by all the gaps in your brain .
I don't even know why we're discussing this, all dad is doing is fantasising about things he hasn't even got the tiniest clue about. His arguments are based on a world where he can make literally ANYTHING happen, so how can you argue against that? Let him live in his dream world, he's not even worth it to be debated with.

 

[llDayo]

Where does it say in the Bible that God would not include certain animals? I thought it was 2 of each unclean and 7 of each clean? I don't remember excluding any. If dad or darknights could kindly point out this exclusion I'll send rep to both.

 

[Split Rock]

Christians have superior theories because they include a necessary part of the equation, the spiritual. Adapting now is quite a pitiful little process, because of the way that the life was left in the physical only universe, and the damages and lacks a body had to adjust to. It actually is pretty in depth, everything from diet, where we needed no meat then, to radiation damage, and many other things.

You still haven't really answered my question. Are you saying that a vegetarian diet allowed for "hyper-evolution?" A lack of radiation damage, would reduce mutation, and thereby reduce genetic variation... hardly a means of increasing the rate of evolution (compared to today).

Why not just admit you have no clue as to what you are talking about? You will feel better in the morning!

 

[Split Rock]

No need, there was hyper evolution, all they needed was the one basic kind. For example, all tiger species are said to have come from one original kind. Piece a cake.

Everything is a piece of cake when you can make things up and pull guesses out of thin air and call them "superior theories!"

I thought there was one "cat" kind... are you saying there were many "cat" kinds? How many "dog" kinds were there? Was there a "hyena" kind? Piece of Pie! Slice of Cake!

Again you spit out this "hyper-evolution" stuff... yet you still cannot tell us the mechanism behind it... how about little pink fairies?

 

[Split Rock]

"Gopher wood metal?"

Nice parody, dad.

I love the part about including "gopher debris"... what the heck is that? Gopher poop? Is that supposed to be made of metal?

No one else can come up with this stuff like dad!

The only reason I haven't put dad on "ignore" is because he still makes me laugh so hard!

 

[Freodin]

True. The in box PO limited science can't put it anywhere at all! They hear no flood, see no flood, speak no fllod!
For us of the superior theories, we can honestly look at the evidence, to see what is warranted, and proper, and true! To see what fits the bill of evidence we have, as well as the documentary evidence, and the spiritual reality, instead of being in denial, like you!
We don't have to interpret it with old age baseless beliefs, as you do!

"...honestly look at the evidence..."

Sorry, but that is just to funny. All you do - all you ever did here - was look at the evidence, state "well, it can´t mean what it seems to mean" and proclaim all the mechanisms that created this evidence to have been "different".


Split got it right: you are just too funny to be kept on ignore.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I love the part about including "gopher debris"... what the heck is that? Gopher poop? Is that supposed to be made of metal?

No one else can come up with this stuff like dad!

The only reason I haven't put dad on "ignore" is because he still makes me laugh so hard!

Gotta agree -- dad is comedy gold.
Make that comedy platinum--

Aw heck, COMEDY GOPHER WOOD! (As soon as dad can decide what that is...)

 

[franklin]

Gotta agree -- dad is comedy gold.
Make that comedy platinum--

Aw heck, COMEDY GOPHER WOOD! (As soon as dad can decide what that is...)

Actually the story goes something along the lines of Noah trying to build the ark out of bricks but God intervened and said: "no, Noah, go-for-wood"

 

[Industriaan]

Wood, everybody knows the best is a carbonite composite???

Ni Hao

 

[Opethian]

I got it!!!

It's a new form of extreme metal music! Gopher Wood Metal, surpassing the most kult Black Metal and Death Metal into extremes formerly unknown to the human ear. The sonic equivelant of having 300 gophers around you all nibbling their scratchy little teeth on some wood.

Rock on dad !!!