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Matthew,
Please pardon the tone of my last post. I'm not one for blowing hot air, so I'll be honest that some aspects of your post did indeed offend me. I think that what really got to me the most was that you seem to be equating someone's marital success and faith in God directly to their aherance to "be fruitful and multiply". I guess I see it more that what makes the most difference in people's lives is the ability to "let go, and let God". That can be in every aspect of a person's lives, and I don't think that it is simply a matter of procreation. I don't see where the number of children that a couple has has anything to do with their relationship with the Lord.
Now, what I will cede is that many people today are ruled by the love of money. Of course that is not spiritually healthy, and it is causing strife everywhere. However, it seems to me that you are purposefully trying to tie everything into procreation to further your own personal ideals concerning the bearing of children. It honestly looks like a far stretch to me to point out a low divorce rate amonst NFPers, and intimate that society on a whole would be better off if we'd just stop using outside forms of birth control. Well, there would be more children, but I don't know that it would change anything about the state of marriage. There needs to be a change of heart toward submission toward God, and submission toward each other, not just matter of having large families. You say that it isn't about having a 'brood', but it surely would if people chose to forgo any type of birth control. What you are suggesting IS a form of birth control, and could be used for the same purposes as people using condoms or pills. Folks could use it to put off having children until they had aquired material possessions or felt that they were "ready" to have children. So, what makes it different? What makes it a more viable option? All that I really see it doing is possibly restricting the sexual bonding between a husband and wife, which as a person stated above, is only supposed to be put off because of time dedicated to prayer. *wiggles eyebrows* So, if someone were gonna follow it to the letter, there wouldn't be these periods of abstinenece, would there?
Sounds like a way to definitely increase a household to me. lol
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not against NFP. What I am against though is the idea that it's the only way you can have a happy marriage is to utilize a form of birth control that really isn't all that natural anyway. *laughs* How natural is it to purposefully refrain from sex during a woman's most fertile time? Seems pretty unnatural to me. lol If people feel that they are fine with making the point to turn their procreation over to God, that is wonderful. However, I don't see how that is happening with NFP. It's still a human being trying to do things at their own schedule, hence the 'planning' in the name. lol The only real positive I see to it is that there are no foreign hormones or chemicals being introduced to the body, and that is always good.
Oh well, that's enough out of me. I had better go make me some more babies so I can stay happily married............. *giggles and wanders off*
Please pardon the tone of my last post. I'm not one for blowing hot air, so I'll be honest that some aspects of your post did indeed offend me. I think that what really got to me the most was that you seem to be equating someone's marital success and faith in God directly to their aherance to "be fruitful and multiply". I guess I see it more that what makes the most difference in people's lives is the ability to "let go, and let God". That can be in every aspect of a person's lives, and I don't think that it is simply a matter of procreation. I don't see where the number of children that a couple has has anything to do with their relationship with the Lord.
Now, what I will cede is that many people today are ruled by the love of money. Of course that is not spiritually healthy, and it is causing strife everywhere. However, it seems to me that you are purposefully trying to tie everything into procreation to further your own personal ideals concerning the bearing of children. It honestly looks like a far stretch to me to point out a low divorce rate amonst NFPers, and intimate that society on a whole would be better off if we'd just stop using outside forms of birth control. Well, there would be more children, but I don't know that it would change anything about the state of marriage. There needs to be a change of heart toward submission toward God, and submission toward each other, not just matter of having large families. You say that it isn't about having a 'brood', but it surely would if people chose to forgo any type of birth control. What you are suggesting IS a form of birth control, and could be used for the same purposes as people using condoms or pills. Folks could use it to put off having children until they had aquired material possessions or felt that they were "ready" to have children. So, what makes it different? What makes it a more viable option? All that I really see it doing is possibly restricting the sexual bonding between a husband and wife, which as a person stated above, is only supposed to be put off because of time dedicated to prayer. *wiggles eyebrows* So, if someone were gonna follow it to the letter, there wouldn't be these periods of abstinenece, would there?
Sounds like a way to definitely increase a household to me. lol Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not against NFP. What I am against though is the idea that it's the only way you can have a happy marriage is to utilize a form of birth control that really isn't all that natural anyway. *laughs* How natural is it to purposefully refrain from sex during a woman's most fertile time? Seems pretty unnatural to me. lol If people feel that they are fine with making the point to turn their procreation over to God, that is wonderful. However, I don't see how that is happening with NFP. It's still a human being trying to do things at their own schedule, hence the 'planning' in the name. lol The only real positive I see to it is that there are no foreign hormones or chemicals being introduced to the body, and that is always good.
Oh well, that's enough out of me. I had better go make me some more babies so I can stay happily married............. *giggles and wanders off*
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