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Did Jesus give us an Eleventh Commandment?

How do you see Jesus' new commandment?

  • An additional commandment brings the total commandments to eleven in the new covenant.

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • A replacement of the ten previous commandments where we no longer have to keep the Sabbath.

    Votes: 3 75.0%

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Brother, you can certainly love more, as Jesus has shown by surpassing the demands of three of the commandments in the new covenant and adding the Eleventh Commandment, but the Ten Commandments were the minimum love God wanted us to show under the slower cycle of forgiveness with animal sacrifices compared to Jesus' greater demand under His faster cycle of forgiveness as our High Priest. We are not automatically forgiven by the death of Jesus, we are forgiven when we turn to Jesus as our High Priest to "intercede" for us. Repeated is this cycle until separated is all sins from our character. This cycle after Jesus is faster and eternal compared to animal sacrifices, which clearly showed the repetition until removed is all sin from us.

Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them. Such a high priest truly meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. For the law appoints as high priests men in all their weakness; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever. (Hebrews 7:25-28 NIV)​

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Brother, happy Sabbath!
I think the entire law of Moses was the minimum standard for showing our love to other people, things like returning your neighbor's livestock and whatnot.

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Brother, happy Sabbath!
I think the entire law of Moses was the minimum standard for showing our love to other people, things like returning your neighbor's livestock and whatnot. United in loving one another!
Brother, Jesus tells us in the following passage, that only the Ten Commandments were a requirement to "inherit eternal life". However, all those other laws given by God now fall under the Eleventh Commandment, where Jesus is our example to "follow": Jesus kept all those God-given laws. Jesus is demanding more under the new covenant than the old covenant.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

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Brothers, happy Sabbath! Jesus did not rise on Sunday. Everywhere in the New Testament, where a passage is translated as referring to Sunday, it actually refers to Saturday. The first day of the week is not mentioned at all in the New Testament. The Sabbath in the Promised Land falls 12 hours earlier than the seventh day of the week. God taught Joshua for 40 years in the desert near the Promised Land that keeping the seventh day of the week, does not enter the Sabbath, being 12 hours late in the Promised Land. The Sabbath in the Promised Land falls and takes halves between Friday and Saturday, so you only get half of a Friday and half of a Saturday in the Promised Land, with a Sabbath taking halves between those two days, giving us the following order: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sabbath, and Saturday, the Sabbath being an eighth division in the seven-day week.

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The "evening" ending the Sabbath in the Promised Land is part of Saturday, as shown in the passage below where God uses an "expression" that was not previously understood: "the first of the Sabbaths". This "expression" refers to the first Sabbath of creation week or another way of saying the seventh day of the week that we call Saturday. I will use Saturday for the seventh day as different from the Sabbath, which is separate from the seventh day in the Promised Land, to correct the translation of this "expression" of God. Here, "as it dawns beyond Saturday" refers to the end of the second half of Saturday, the night half from evening to morning, where Jesus rose on a Saturday night after the Sabbath in the Promised Land and before the morning begins Sunday, as the days of creation are corrected from human tradition since Joshua in the message of the "day" of rest in Hebrews.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

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Just a disclaimer to the posters reading, this is not a teaching of the SDA church but unique to this one poster.

This is what the SDA church teaches which comes from scripture:What Adventists Believe about the Sabbath - Adventist.org

The gracious Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God’s unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God’s kingdom. The Sabbath is God’s perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God’s creative and redemptive acts. (Gen. 2:1-3; Exod. 20:8-11; 31:13-17; Lev. 23:32; Deut. 5:12-15; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Ezek. 20:12, 20; Matt. 12:1-12; Mark 1:32; Luke 4:16; Heb. 4:1-11.)

Also the SDA teaching of the Law of God:

What Adventists Believe About the Law of God - Adventist.org
 
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Brother, Jesus tells us in the following passage, that only the Ten Commandments were a requirement to "inherit eternal life". However, all those other laws given by God now fall under the Eleventh Commandment, where Jesus is our example to "follow": Jesus kept all those God-given laws. Jesus is demanding more under the new covenant than the old covenant.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

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Brother, happy Sabbath! In Matthew 19, Jesus adds the love your neighbor as yourself commandment. It's not one of the 10, though I do agree it is related.

But of course, all of the laws are related in some way.

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Brother, happy Sabbath! In Matthew 19, Jesus adds the love your neighbor as yourself commandment. It's not one of the 10, though I do agree it is related. But of course, all of the laws are related in some way. United in exploring the word of truth!
Brother, happy Sabbath! Mentioning the second great commandment shows the inclusion of the first great commandment. This not only verifies that loving your neighbor as yourself sums up the last six of the Ten Commandments, but that the first four are also implied when Jesus gives a sample of the last six commandments without having to list them all in His answer: "you know the commandments" to the question "what should I do to inherit eternal life?" The Ten Commandments are the minimum love God demands we show in the old covenant, though He gave more laws for those willing to do more than the minimum Ten Commandments.

“Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?” Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.” (Matthew 22:36-40 NLT)​

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Brother, happy Sabbath! Mentioning the second great commandment shows the inclusion of the first great commandment. This not only verifies that loving your neighbor as yourself sums up the last six of the Ten Commandments, but that the first four are also implied when Jesus gives a sample of the last six commandments without having to list them all in His answer: "you know the commandments" to the question "what should I do to inherit eternal life?" The Ten Commandments are the minimum love God demands we show in the old covenant, though He gave more laws for those willing to do more than the minimum Ten Commandments.

“Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?” Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.” (Matthew 22:36-40 NLT)​

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Brother, happy Sabbath! The entire law of Moses is summed up in the Commandment to love your neighbor. That's in Romans 13, I believe.

In the sermon on the mount, Jesus says that doing to other people what we want them to do to us is the law and the prophets.

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Brother, happy Sabbath! The entire law of Moses is summed up in the Commandment to love your neighbor. That's in Romans 13, I believe. In the sermon on the mount, Jesus says that doing to other people what we want them to do to us is the law and the prophets. United in listening to Jesus!
Brother, our experience of how others treat us in order to learn how to treat others does not help us to love God, who is not like us. Fortunately, God has told us how to love Him by giving us the first four commandments to fulfil the goal of the first of the greatest commandments.

“Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?” Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.” (Matthew 22:36-40 NLT)​

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Brother, our experience of how others treat us in order to learn how to treat others does not help us to love God, who is not like us. Fortunately, God has told us how to love Him by giving us the first four commandments to fulfil the goal of the first of the greatest commandments.

“Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?” Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.” (Matthew 22:36-40 NLT)​

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Brother, when I write this, it is still the Sabbath, isn't it? Happy Sabbath!

Tell us do the scriptures
"Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets."
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 7 - New Living Translation

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Brother, when I write this, it is still the Sabbath, isn't it? Happy Sabbath!
Brother, the Sabbath ends where I am this Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:33 am EDT!
Tell us do the scriptures "Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 7 - New Living Translation United in rightly dealing with the word of Truth!
This passage tells us how God learned the way of love. God learned the way of love because they are three instead of one. If we lived as long as God, we could learn the way of love, but our lives are short and we need God to walk on the way of love, who is not a "blind" guide like us for sin and the way of love, because of our short lives. The Holy Spirit teaches us the way of love through the guaranteed word of God by the Holy Spirit through the Prophets and we should not trust any spirit that speaks against the guaranteed word of God by the Holy Spirit through the Prophets.

Jesus came and told his disciples, “I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” (Matthew 28:18-20 NLT)​

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Brother, the Sabbath ends where I am this Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:33 am EST!
Brother, happy first day!

I'm glad that you gave the EST time, because I live in the Eastern Time zone. If I look at the time stamp of post #28, it says Today at 11:20 AM.

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Brother, the Sabbath ends where I am this Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:33 am EST!

This passage tells us how God learned the way of love. God learned the way of love because they are three instead of one. If we lived as long as God, we could learn the way of love, but our lives are short and we need God to walk on the way of love, who is not a "blind" guide like us for sin and the way of love, because of our short lives. The Holy Spirit teaches us the way of love through the guaranteed word of God by the Holy Spirit through the Prophets and we should not trust any spirit that speaks against the guaranteed word of God by the Holy Spirit through the Prophets.

Jesus came and told his disciples, “I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” (Matthew 28:18-20 NLT)​

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Brother, happy first day! In the sermon on the mount, I believe Jesus is giving us instructions, as well.

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Brother, happy first day! I'm glad that you gave the EST time, because I live in the Eastern Time zone. If I look at the time stamp of post #28, it says Today at 11:20 AM. United in living out of the Gospel!
Brother, it's not yet the first day of the week in the Eastern time zone. The first day begins at sunrise according to Genesis and is verified in the following passage. The first day of the week starts where I am this Sunday, September 25, 2022, at 7:35 am EDT! The days set in the image below only apply to Jerusalem. Depending on your location, the Sabbath goes from taking up all of Saturday to all of Friday. In most places, as in Jerusalem, the Sabbath takes part of Friday and Saturday.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

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This video should help visualize how the Sabbath moves around the earth.


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Brother, it's not yet the first day of the week in the Eastern time zone. The first day begins at sunrise according to Genesis and is verified in the following passage. The first day of the week starts where I am this Sunday, September 25, 2022, at 7:35 am EST! The days set in the image below only apply to Jerusalem. Depending on your location, the Sabbath goes from taking up all of Friday to just part of Friday and Saturday.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

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This video should help visualize how the Sabbath moves around the earth.


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Brother, happy first day! Isn't sunset in Jerusalem the same as sunrise in Eden?

Happy first day, creation time zone!

And God said let there be light, that's something to rejoice in imo.

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Brother, happy first day! Isn't sunset in Jerusalem the same as sunrise in Eden? Happy first day, creation time zone! And God said let there be light, that's something to rejoice in imo. United in searching the scriptures!
Brother, God is not like us, He values completions more than beginnings, while we value beginnings more than completions, the opposite of how He thinks. It is because we think differently that the message of Genesis was not understood. The end of the first day is more important than the beginning of the first day. We should have realized that, because it ends in the "MORNING", it began in the "MORNING", but because we focus on beginnings more than completion, we paid more attention to the "evening" that falls in the middle of the first day than the end of the first day in the "MORNING".

Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. Then he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day” and the darkness “night.” And evening passed and MORNING came, marking the first day. (Genesis 1:3-5 NLT)​

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Yeah after 2000 yeas.. not something new your asking about. We do tend to be moved more by the group we belong to no offense. Praise God glory to Jesus by His sweet sweet holy Spirit leads guides us into all truth. I can not tell you what GOD really meant to say in His word and in regard's to "Eleventh Commandment". Much has been written on that. I can share what I personally believe yet others have already shared it.
 
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Yeah after 2000 yeas.. not something new your asking about. We do tend to be moved more by the group we belong to no offense. Praise God glory to Jesus by His sweet sweet holy Spirit leads guides us into all truth. I can not tell you what GOD really meant to say in His word and in regard's to "Eleventh Commandment". Much has been written on that. I can share what I personally believe yet others have already shared it.
Brother, have you read anything in our 2000-year history mentioning the Eleventh Commandment after having understood that Jesus wanted to correct the Sabbath tradition in Judaism since Joshua, with another "day" of rest still to come.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

I first understood the first day in Genesis ends in a "morning", followed by Manna spoiling in the "morning", unless the next day was a Sabbath, and finally, I could understand how God prevented Joshua from entering the Sabbath for 40 years in the desert with Manna. The morning-to-morning weekday established in Genesis explained the two announcements in Hebrews. In turn, the two announcements in Hebrews, chapter 3 and 4, verify the morning-to-morning day in Genesis: first, Joshua did not enter God's "day" of rest during the 40 years with Manna in the desert, and secondly, Joshua did not give God's "day" of rest to Judaism, because hearing the story of Manna, written for us from morning-to-morning did Joshua no good, because he wrongly assumed that the Sabbath in the Promised Land at an earlier time from evening-to-evening is the seventh day of the week when God had taught him for 40 years in the desert that the seventh day of the week is from morning-to-morning and not from evening-to-evening.
  1. I first understood Genesis day from morning-to-morning.
  2. Then I understood that the days with Manna for 40 years were from morning-to-morning.
  3. And finally, in Hebrews 3 and 4, the morning-to-morning of the seventh day near the Promised Land does not enter God's Sabbath, which Joshua entered from evening-to-evening before the seventh day of the week in the Promised Land.
God gave instructions to remember the Sabbath in Jerusalem at an earlier time, from evening-to-evening than the seventh day of the week from morning-to-morning, established in Genesis and confirmed below. Every translation has mistakenly assumed that God's "expression": "the first of the Sabbaths" refers to Sunday when referring to Saturday, another way to refer to the seventh day of the creation week we call Saturday.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

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Brother, God is not like us, He values completions more than beginnings, while we value beginnings more than completions, the opposite of how He thinks. It is because we think differently that the message of Genesis was not understood. The end of the first day is more important than the beginning of the first day. We should have realized that, because it ends in the "MORNING", it began in the "MORNING", but because we focus on beginnings more than completion, we paid more attention to the "evening" that falls in the middle of the first day than the end of the first day in the "MORNING".

Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. Then he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day” and the darkness “night.” And evening passed and MORNING came, marking the first day. (Genesis 1:3-5 NLT)​

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Brother, happy first day! That is good to know.

God looked at the first day, and saw that it was good :thumbsup: That is something to rejoice in imo.

And we read in the scriptures to Rejoice in the Lord always, and again I say, rejoice.

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The notion that "Christ changed the commandment" is a notion that comes out of the Reformation. John Calvin was the first to put it that way, if my memory is right (read something recently).
Brother, Happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday September 30, 2022 at 11:25 am EDT! I don't see how someone listening to Jesus' message could come to that conclusion. Clearly, Jesus added the new Eleventh Commandment to the previous Ten Commandments and His new Eleventh Commandment does not replace the previous Ten Commandments when Jesus says "one thing" you haven't done, bringing this person into the new covenant because to "follow" Jesus was not possible before His arrival, with the new Eleventh Commandment added to "follow" His example and the new Eleventh Commandment is not a replacement for the previous Ten Commandments.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

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Brother, Happy 6th day! What website do you use for the time? Is it this one? Sunrise and sunset times in Jerusalem United in pursuing the Sun of Righteousness!
Brother, yes! I use the following two links, one tells me the sunset time in Jerusalem and the other allows me to convert that time to my local time. Daylight Saving Time (DST) is handled automatically.
  1. Sunrise & Sunset for Jerusalem.
  2. Time Zone Converter from Jerusalem to EST.
United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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