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Did humans descend from Apes?

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Humans have been around for about 315,000 years. There have been living creatures on earth for over 600 million years if you mean multicellular animals. Or over 3.5 billion years if you mean single cell organisms.

False, since what you classify as Human is actually the sons of God (prehistoric people whose origin was in water). The sons of God are "Their" kind or the kind created by the Trinity. Gen 1:21 Humans are the descendants of Adam, the common ancestor of Humans and are "His" kind or the kind formed by the Hands of YHWH/Jesus. Gen 2:7 Don't you know the difference between kinds?

Where have I been? Places like schools, libraries, universities, and other sources of reliable information.

You mean changeable consensus science which knows in advance that it will change over time? God's Truth changes not IF you can understand His Truth.

What do you have to back up your claims?

The agreement of Scripture with Science and History which comes only to the people of the last days who have been born again Spiritually. Dan 12:4

And what do you mean that 'no-one can tell us the process'. You just haven't been looking in the right place for the current research on the genetic basis of intelligence. Try this for a start: New genetic roots for intelligence discovered

The genetic roots are those of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who roamed the Earth for Millions of years before Noah brought Humanity to this planet of Apes. Soon, the leaders of your changeable Science will agree. It's what happens in the last days Act 2:17 before Jesus returns to Judge the quick and the dead. 2Ti 4:1
 
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Sure you are, since the only way you can refute me is to believe that you know more than God. Such views are delusional and cannot explain How or When we changed from animal to Human (Adam's descendants) intelligence. The myth is that we magically obtained the highest intelligence in creation from mindless nature. IF you believe that satanic lie, you will believe anything. Seek help.

How judgemental.
 
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False, since what you classify as Human is actually the sons of God (prehistoric people whose origin was in water). The sons of God are "Their" kind or the kind created by the Trinity. Gen 1:21 Humans are the descendants of Adam, the common ancestor of Humans and are "His" kind or the kind formed by the Hands of YHWH/Jesus. Gen 2:7 Don't you know the difference between kinds?



You mean changeable consensus science which knows in advance that it will change over time? God's Truth changes not IF you can understand His Truth.



The agreement of Scripture with Science and History which comes only to the people of the last days who have been born again Spiritually. Dan 12:4



The genetic roots are those of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who roamed the Earth for Millions of years before Noah brought Humanity to this planet of Apes. Soon, the leaders of your changeable Science will agree. It's what happens in the last days Act 2:17 before Jesus returns to Judge the quick and the dead. 2Ti 4:1

I've read this through several times, and all I can say is that it's such nonsense that there is no real way to respond.

Science has proved itself very capable in explaining the world, and that science changes over time with advances in understanding is one of its biggest advantages over other ways of knowing. The Bible has not proved itself as an accurate way of knowing: quite the opposite.

Where is there evidence for your claim that 'The genetic roots are those of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who roamed the Earth for Millions of years before Noah brought humanity to this planet of apes'? This doesn't sound like Christian doctrine to me; it sounds more like something that you've just made up.
 
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NO, it means that I can understand Genesis and you cannot. Only those with the Holy Spirit inside them can understand what He wrote more than 3k years ago.

yes, that too is part of your religious belief.
 
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Think of it this way; cars and semi-trucks (the type of truck I assume you were talking about) are both land vehicles that use rubber tires and engines that work by the same principles. Humans and chimps are both have a wide range of shoulder movement, are mammals, lack tails, and have front facing eyes.

Not sure why people get so freaked out over us sharing a Superfamily with chimps and orangutans when your poodle shares a family (the taxonomic category directly below Superfamily and thus more detailed and exclusive) with the Asian raccoon dog
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Are we supposed to be insulted about being vertebrates because it puts us in a category snakes are also in on account of spine structure?
That raccoon dog has no relation to the raccoon. its the same colors tho so nice try :)
 
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That raccoon dog has no relation to the raccoon. its the same colors tho so nice try :)

Her post, that you quoted, does not claim that the raccoon dog is particularly closely related to the raccoon. She said that it is in the same (biological) family as dogs. Which it does: Canidae.

Hence: I don't understand what your point is. Could you please explain?
 
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but why they are apes? because they share similar traits with apes. so by this logic i can claim that a car is a truck since both are similar.
Your fascination with vehicles is.......it's stupid.
As for what you said, nothing you say applies since they aren't classified by taxonomists, are they?
Still, a better representation is:
Road Vehicles is equivalent to apes
Truck and Cars are Genera
What the car/truck is form the species.
Do you understand now? We cannot equate vehicles to living organisms which is why what I've given is also incorrect, but if you understand this, then its fine.
 
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Where is there evidence for your claim that 'The genetic roots are those of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who roamed the Earth for Millions of years before Noah brought humanity to this planet of apes'? This doesn't sound like Christian doctrine to me; it sounds more like something that you've just made up.

1. The Ark was 15 cubits above the highest mountains on Adam's world on the 150th day (24 hours) after the flood began. Gen 7:20-24
2. The Ark was resting in the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day (24 hours) after the flood began. Gen 8:4

What seems like a riddle actually has a simple explanation. Can you explain? If so, then you have found God's Truth, which is shocking to religionists and those who follow the traditional theology of ancient Hebrews. Atheists find it interesting since it agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind. What it reveals is that Humans (descendants of Adam) were NOT made on our planet and physical, empirical evidence can STILL be found on our Earth. Amen?
 
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Its you who post magical nonsense in an science debate and then threaten me with some kind of religious crap.

Look in the mirror.

I'm terribly flawed but I support what i write with the agreement of Scripture, science and history. If you wish to refute me, then choose your own poison.
 
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I'm terribly flawed but I support what i write with the agreement of Scripture, science and history. If you wish to refute me, then choose your own poison.

No it really isnt. Its nonsense.
 
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1. The Ark was 15 cubits above the highest mountains on Adam's world on the 150th day (24 hours) after the flood began. Gen 7:20-24
2. The Ark was resting in the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day (24 hours) after the flood began. Gen 8:4

What seems like a riddle actually has a simple explanation. Can you explain? If so, then you have found God's Truth, which is shocking to religionists and those who follow the traditional theology of ancient Hebrews. Atheists find it interesting since it agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind. What it reveals is that Humans (descendants of Adam) were NOT made on our planet and physical, empirical evidence can STILL be found on our Earth. Amen?

I have no explanation as to how you think this is relevant to my post that you quoted above this reply, nor how you think that this supports your argument.
 
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Her post, that you quoted, does not claim that the raccoon dog is particularly closely related to the raccoon. She said that it is in the same (biological) family as dogs. Which it does: Canidae.

Hence: I don't understand what your point is. Could you please explain?
I like how under your profile name it says "Gimmie dat ol' time physical evidence".
What do you think about this from the Smithsonian Institute. Look at the right side quote that says "The last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees... We do not yet have its remains".
Genetics | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program
 

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