Did humans descend from Apes?

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Aman777 said: ↑
Then please explain the process which is different from sex, which is the only way to change Humans intelligence level.

Demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the theoretical mechanisms of evolution.

 

[Kaon]

The woo is strong with this one.

And, here I was being sincere.

I am not even mad, good luck to you.

 

[Aman777]

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I mean, they did say the planet and universe is billions of years old, that dimensions exist, etc.
It is just as credible as the stuff you wrote.

That's the point. Science AGREES with Scripture, which means that ONLY God could have possibly authored it. God, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, is the Author and that's WHY no one here can refute a single word of it.

Also, I asked for very specific cases to which you responded with someone thinking of the first stars and water living things being made of water.

I show that Science and Scripture AGREE that the first Stars began millions of years after the beginning of our cosmos. Scripture correctly shows that the beginning (Big Bang) was on the 3rd Day/Age Gen 2:4 and 180 million years later the first Stars lit up on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 Try to keep up.

I agree the bible (really any ancient book) got a few things right, but you did claim ALL.

The Holy Spirit IS the Spirit of Truth and MUST tell the Truth or the entire creation will end. Don't you know the secret of immortality? It's being sinlessly perfect.

So show me the law of conservation of angular momentum, law of independent assortment (between different chromosomes), and the ideal gas laws (basically PV=nRT). You can't.

They are hidden in the Bible Codes, which are currently being examined.

Because the Bible does not have ALL the sciemtific laws and discoveries. It has some, the vedas had some, and I'm pretty sure ancient egyptians and Babylonians made a lot of progress in astronomy back in the day.

God has many wonders to teach you IF you allow Him. God Bless you

 

[Brightmoon]

God has many wonders . I’ll agree . We’re made of stardust and we can think , walk around, and reproduce . You creationists miss the real miracle by focusing on Bronze Age fables

 

[Aman777]

The process by which humans became more intelligent was evolution by natural selection, which - naturally - involves sex.

False, or we could close all the Schools as we became more and more intelligent. No other living creature has evolved Humanity and never will, since Godless evolution is as mindless as "Nature". Humans have the intelligence of God. Gen 3:22

There's no magic in long periods of time (it's often called 'deep time') and lots of mutations being selected for or against.

Correction: Random mutations, which don't have a direction. IOW, Magic. Long periods of time are Neutral and have no effect on anything. Time is a Concept. You seem to think it has hidden powers or forces. IOW, Magic.

The same logic applies to other heritable traits , including intelligence - and there may be a significant boost from sexual selection if intelligence is seen as a desirable feature in a mate, or if being more intelligent leads to greater status or wealth, and status or wealth are seen as desirable in a mate.

Now the egg and the sperm give Humans a boost IF the people are wealthy. Do you actually believe this tripe? IF it were Truth, Trump would be smarter than Albert Einstein, instead of being a dangerous Idiot.

You're welcome to your God beliefs and your imaginative claims about where human intelligence came from, but they're really not necessary to explain it; if there is any invocation of 'magic', it's in those beliefs and claims.

As I showed above, Godless evolution would have to be Magic to change prehistoric people, who descended from the common ancestor of Apes, into Humans who are the descendants of Adam. Human intelligence MUST be INHERITED from another Human through sex. Forget the superstitious views of Godless people who can only invoke Magic to explain their doctrine.

 

[Aman777]

Demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the theoretical mechanisms of evolution.

Correction: It demonstrates the complete misunderstanding of Godless evolution, which is a concept dreamed up by people who THINK they know more than God.

 

[Aman777]

God has many wonders . I’ll agree . We’re made of stardust and we can think , walk around, and reproduce . You creationists miss the real miracle by focusing on Bronze Age fables

Wrong. When Jesus cast the Stars through the Universe, He KNEW that Humans would be made of the insides of those first Stars and be alive with a mind like God's. Gen 3:22 That's the miracle. Our God is an Awesome God.

 

[Brightmoon]

You actually said something I agree with! Trump is a dangerous idiot.

As you’ve been repeatedly told and ignored, the human lineage ( currently about 24 species) has never evolved away from being apes- family Hominidae. Human intelligence evolved and you can see that in the fossils as the brain case gets larger through time

 

[Brightmoon]

You’re forgetting something. You have to have other early stars form , then after millions of years go nova, to eventually form another solar system with elements capable of forming a rocky planet, let alone the life on that planet. You don’t have to believe me ask our resident astronomer

 

[Aman777]

You actually said something I agree with! Trump is a dangerous idiot.

As you’ve been repeatedly told and ignored, the human lineage ( currently about 24 species) has never evolved away from being apes- family Hominidae. Human intelligence evolved and you can see that in the fossils as the brain case gets larger through time

False, since Neanderthal had a larger brain that today's Humans. What is shown is that it took some 6 Million years for the sons of God (prehistoric people) to become sexually compatible with Humans (descendants of Adam). Humans are His kind or the kind made by the Hands of Jesus. Gen 2:4-7 The sons of God (prehistoric people) descended from the common ancestor of Apes and are Their kind or the kind made by the Trinity. Gen 1:21

What you continue to parrot are the views of Godless evolism which does NOT agree with Scripture, Science nor History. It's a false assumption.

 

[Aman777]

You’re forgetting something. You have to have other early stars form , then after millions of years go nova, to eventually form another solar system with elements capable of forming a rocky planet, let alone the life on that planet.

False, since Adam's world/firmament was made the 2nd Day/Age Gen 1:8 which was BEFORE the Big Bang, which happened on the 3rd Day, Gen 2:4 which was billions of years later, in man's time. Adam's entire Universe was very small, only miles in diameter and resembled a large Submarine. It was placed in the Water of the Multiverse, while today's Cosmos is in the middle of a great quantity of Dust in the Multiverse.

 

[Brightmoon]

Neanderthals have a differently shaped brain case. Their skulls are more elongated and they have an occipital bun at the back of their heads . They’re another species ( different bone structure and growth rates- fully adult at age 15) but they were closely related enough to interbreed and form fertile healthy hybrids. A quick way to tell a Neanderthal from a sapiens - look at the rib cage. Humans have a straight sided rectangular rib cage and Neanderthals have a triangular shaped one like a kid’s drawing of a Xmas tree. Unlike us they didn’t have a waist

 

[Brightmoon]

Before the Big Bang is an oxymoron as time in this universe started at the Big Bang . The Big Bang was an expansion of spacetime that somehow formed light energy out of vacuum energy. Ordinary matter was formed as that energy cooled and “ solidified” . Atoms are still made of energy which you can see if you get into subatomic particles

 

[Brightmoon]

False, since Adam's world/firmament was made the 2nd Day/Age Gen 1:8 which was BEFORE the Big Bang, which happened on the 3rd Day, Gen 2:4 which was billions of years later, in man's time. Adam's entire Universe was very small, only miles in diameter and resembled a large Submarine. It was placed in the Water of the Multiverse, while today's Cosmos is in the middle of a great quantity of Dust in the Multiverse.

That sounds like something fanciful that William Blake made up.

 

[Jjmcubbin]

That's the point. Science AGREES with Scripture, which means that ONLY God could have possibly authored it. God, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, is the Author and that's WHY no one here can refute a single word of it.



I show that Science and Scripture AGREE that the first Stars began millions of years after the beginning of our cosmos. Scripture correctly shows that the beginning (Big Bang) was on the 3rd Day/Age Gen 2:4 and 180 million years later the first Stars lit up on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 Try to keep up.



The Holy Spirit IS the Spirit of Truth and MUST tell the Truth or the entire creation will end. Don't you know the secret of immortality? It's being sinlessly perfect.



They are hidden in the Bible Codes, which are currently being examined.



God has many wonders to teach you IF you allow Him. God Bless you

So, is a day as per the bible equate to 180 million real years? I have a feeling that that isn't true and yet you are presenting the information to conform with your religious beliefs. Also, your logic is impeccably dumb. You presented two examples, one of which I just showed as incorrect, and you say the world is created. Do you know how many ancient civicivilizations unknowingly contributed to science? They knew more than the bible. Did they create the universe?
Have you read the Bible? Could you at least point me to the line that might indicate said discoveries?

I may not believe in the Christian God, but thank you and may god bless you too.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

False, or we could close all the Schools as we became more and more intelligent.

You really have no idea. The evolution of our intelligence took hundreds of thousands of years, and required that greater intelligence was a selective advantage.

No other living creature has evolved Humanity and never will, since Godless evolution is as mindless as "Nature". Humans have the intelligence of God. Gen 3:22

The same is true of all creatures - no other living creature besides a mole has evolved moleness, and never will.

If humans have the intelligence of God, that doesn't say much for God... no wonder his designs are so flaky

Correction: Random mutations, which don't have a direction.

Mutations may be random, but natural selection isn't. It ensures only advantageous mutations propagate through the population over generations.

IOW, Magic. Long periods of time are Neutral and have no effect on anything. Time is a Concept. You seem to think it has hidden powers or forces. IOW, Magic.

Nope, hidden powers, no magic. But statistical mechanics (thermodynamics) - that's what keeps things moving; entropy tends to increase. If you start with low entropy (high available energy), the system will tend towards thermal equilibrium (and in the process, complex systems may develop). Physics 101.

Now the egg and the sperm give Humans a boost IF the people are wealthy. Do you actually believe this tripe? IF it were Truth, Trump would be smarter than Albert Einstein, instead of being a dangerous Idiot.

Lol! No, of course not - I'm talking about sexual selection, where preferential mate selection gives a reproductive advantage to those with the preferred trait; for the peacock it is it's handsome tail, for humans it may have been intelligence or the ability to acquire wealth (indirectly intelligence).

As I showed above, Godless evolution would have to be Magic to change prehistoric people, who descended from the common ancestor of Apes, into Humans who are the descendants of Adam. Human intelligence MUST be INHERITED from another Human through sex. Forget the superstitious views of Godless people who can only invoke Magic to explain their doctrine.

There's no magic in evolution, it's all based on the relatively simple principle that in populations where there is heritable variation between individuals, the more reproductively successful variations will make up a greater proportion of the population as the generations go by.

On the other hand, what does sound like magic is the invocation of mystical, inexplicable, undetectable immaterial entities that can supposedly do anything, but don't do it particularly well.

 

[Herman Hedning]

They are hidden in the Bible Codes, which are currently being examined.

The Bible Codes have long since been completely debunked as purely random coincidences. Using the exact same methods, it is possible to find all kinds of "interesting" things in any text of reasonable length. Here, for instance, assassinations of important persons are being foretold in the text of Moby Dick. Assassinations Foretold in Moby Dick

Some people seem to believe just about anything ...

 

[DogmaHunter]

That's the point. Science AGREES with Scripture

It does not.

I show that Science and Scripture AGREE

No you don't.

The Holy Spirit IS the Spirit of Truth and MUST tell the Truth or the entire creation will end. Don't you know the secret of immortality? It's being sinlessly perfect.

Casper, the ghost that never lies, just told me you are wrong.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Correction: It demonstrates the complete misunderstanding of Godless evolution, which is a concept dreamed up by people who THINK they know more than God.

Evolution isn't Godless; it just happens to be the truth. No true scientist ever thinks he knows more than God; all true scientists realize they are only grasping part of the truth. But they also realize they are actually grasping part of the truth. Your denials notwithstanding, mankind's knowledge of evolution is here to stay.

 

[Aman777]

Before the Big Bang is an oxymoron as time in this universe started at the Big Bang . The Big Bang was an expansion of spacetime that somehow formed light energy out of vacuum energy. Ordinary matter was formed as that energy cooled and “ solidified” . Atoms are still made of energy which you can see if you get into subatomic particles

The morning of the first Day/Age was some 23 Billion years ago, in man's time. Adam's firmament was made on the 2nd Day/Age Gen 1:8 which was billions of years AFTER the first Day. At the beginning of the 3rd Day/Age, Lord God/Jesus formed Adam of the dust of the ground and Humanity began. Gen 2:7 It was the very end of the 3rd Day BEFORE Jesus inflated some of the air, dust and water into Energy, which cooled and formed our physical world some 13.8 billion years ago. Gen 2:4

We know that it was some 180 Million years AFTER the Big Bang BEFORE the first Stars lit up. Scripture shows that the first Stars lit up on the 4th Day, Gen 1:16 which was millions of years after the Big Bang and billions of years AFTER Adam was made. That's God's Truth which AGREES with Science IF you understand that each of God's Days/Ages is billions of years in man's time.