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Can you think of any verses you've seen concerning God and the creation of evil?
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Can you think of any verses you've seen concerning God and the creation of evil?In your opinion.
So why do you think he's not the cause of COVID19?God.... What's your point?
God works all things after the counsel of his own will according to Paul. And all things work for good to those who love the Lord.If I lose my job, not due to my lack of proper action.. but just due to economy or company events... then.. God allowed it.
If someone is prayerfully looking for a job.. and they are offered one.. God allowed it.
If you cannot land an interview... God is not allowing you to have one.
If they are given the choice of two different jobs... God is giving them a choice.
If your wife has a miscarriage... God allowed it.
If your roof gets a leak.. God allowed it.
If your find $20.00 on the ground.. God allowed it.
If you get an ingrown toenail... God allowed it.
If you get a virus.. God allowed it.
If you don't get sick from COVID19... then.... God didn't allow you to get sick.
The virus came from unsanitary markets in China. It is not from God.So why do you think he's not the cause of COVID19?
Why pray if God isn't behind everything, good or bad?The virus came from unsanitary markets in China. It is not from God.
Some are appointed to wrath = ttthat's bad.Why do you say it is "bad". If this causes people to repent and receive the Lord as savior it works out for good.
How do we answer unbelievers who ask Christians, why our loving God would (allow or send) this microscopic enemy to reek such devastating havoc on the world.
There's a lot of disagreement among professing Christians on, whether God sent this virus or whether it was manufactured in a lab and sent out to be used as a weapon of war. Or whether it's neither of those and it's just a random quirk of nature.
I'm not claiming to know the exact origin, but I do believe that God is sovereign over all of His creation. And nothing happens apart from His predetermined will.
So even if it was created by someone will evil intentions, God still uses evil to accomplish His good purpose. I found this very hard to accept, until I realized that I was trying to conform God to my own image.
I can't think of the Bible passages right now, which say that God has only revealed a very limited amount about Himself to us at this time. But He will reveal a lot more in eternity so as hard as it is, we just have to keep trusting in Him.
How do we answer unbelievers who ask Christians, why our loving God would (allow or send) this microscopic enemy to reek such devastating havoc on the world.
There's a lot of disagreement among professing Christians on, whether God sent this virus or whether it was manufactured in a lab and sent out to be used as a weapon of war. Or whether it's neither of those and it's just a random quirk of nature.
I'm not claiming to know the exact origin, but I do believe that God is sovereign over all of His creation. And nothing happens apart from His predetermined will.
So even if it was created by someone will evil intentions, God still uses evil to accomplish His good purpose. I found this very hard to accept, until I realized that I was trying to conform God to my own image.
I can't think of the Bible passages right now, which say that God has only revealed a very limited amount about Himself to us at this time. But He will reveal a lot more in eternity so as hard as it is, we just have to keep trusting in Him.
Your bible sounds like it makes Jesus out to be a loser, He seems to have failed in His mission to save sinners. So He has to cast the majority into hell.Wow! My Bible tells me that Jesus died to save sinners, even the chiefest of sinners. My Bible also tells me that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son to die.
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't the Bible teach that a harsh providence such as a plague is a two edged sword. It serves as a judgement on the unbelieving world but it forges and strengthens the faith of believers.Job is another such story whereby God had tested his most righteous servant at that time. Job cracked a little under the pressure, but through his testing and trials he drew closer to God by them in a way he never thought possible.
I think that is the most interesting part of the story, how Joseph made peace with his brothers.In the story of Joseph we learn that what his brothers intended towards evil against Joseph, God intended for good. In the end, God turned things around whereby Joseph and his brothers reconciled with each other. God turned a bad situation into a good one.
I personally don't share your view, as I believe that God is sovereign over all things. I can't emphasis the term "all things" strongly enough.No God did not "send" this virus. There are virus's in this world due to the fact that it is a fallen world.
What do we tell non believers?
You tell them that God intended the world to be perfect. However, we sinned and allowed all of this to enter.
However... at the end of time on earth, those that have been faithful will have an eternity with their creator in a perfect, sinless world with no sickness, no pain, no tears, no worry.....
Then ask them if they would like to enjoy that type of eternity.
Not to me He didn't.Your bible sounds like it makes Jesus out to be a loser, He seems to have failed in His mission to save sinners.
I think that all things work out together for good to those that love God and are called according to His purpose. I don't understand why there has to be a hell, but I do believe it serves a purpose.So He has to cast the majority into hell.
The God of my Bible, doesn't love the whole world. He only loves His Son and by default, those who are in Him. There's nothing to love about us sinners, our best works are as filthy rags in his sight.
Don't forget, He killed every man woman and child on the planet save 8 before. Do you think that He would kill billions of His beloved?
I appreciate the fact that some of Gods attributes may seem harsh or even unfair from our fallen, perspective. Nowhere does the Bible tell us to judge, God's motives or to get into His mind in any way.Not to me He didn't.
I think that all things work out together for good to those that love God and are called according to His purpose. I don't understand why there has to be a hell, but I do believe it serves a purpose.
At the same time I believe that there are people who have done things that are worthy of being sent to hell but the door is still open for them to repent. I believe that it is not God's will that any would perish.
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't the Bible teach that a harsh providence such as a plague is a two edged sword. It serves as a judgement on the unbelieving world but it forges and strengthens the faith of believers.
Christians seem to fall asleep at the wheel, when everything is hunky dory. We can get too comfortable in the world, and let our guard down and give the enemy an advantage.
That's a different topic. They have had entire threads on the argument of God creating evil.Can you think of any verses you've seen concerning God and the creation of evil?
Because, God does not "send" punishments onto people. Yes, He did it to the Hebrews... But, He doesn't punish people or the world, like that.. He just allows things to happen.So why do you think he's not the cause of COVID19?
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