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Sorry friend. That's just nonsense (according to the Word).
If you break the Law it is sin according to the Bible.
"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."
(1 John 3:4).
There's only two unbreakable laws - love God above all and love your neighbors as yourself.
THe other laws hang upon these (Matthew 22:37-40).
Jesus had to break the sabbath to do good works to fulfill the higher law (love your neighbors as yourself).
No use twisting scriptures. Jesus did break Sabbath.
Okay. Jesus did not break the Sabbath. The Jews had false man made ideas about the Sabbath.
Again, if Jesus broke the Law, He could not be our sinless Savior.
I do not see that in war a Christian is allowed to lie to the enemy at all. Jesus did not lie to the enemy ever. I think the matter hinges on the level of one's faith. God would likely want that we trust him and tell the truth even in war and even to evil intent. But some do not have that level of faith and resort to lies. So the best is to tell the truth or say nothing at all as Jesus did at his trial until a critical point where he had to speak under Jewish law. But if a person has little faith and relys on their own means rather than God in the crunch, that is better than no faith at all.In a war, its allowed to lie to your enemy. Deception is always the part of any war.
Its like lying to Nazi's that you do not have any Jews hidden in your house.
I know that the OP is about Rahab's so-called lie, but I find it curious that no one has commented on the fact that the two Hebrew spies found their way rather quickly to a prostitute.
I do not see that in war a Christian is allowed to lie to the enemy at all. Jesus did not lie to the enemy ever. I think the matter hinges on the level of one's faith. God would likely want that we trust him and tell the truth even in war and even to evil intent. But some do not have that level of faith and resort to lies. So the best is to tell the truth or say nothing at all as Jesus did at his trial until a critical point where he had to speak under Jewish law. But if a person has little faith and relys on their own means rather than God in the crunch, that is better than no faith at all.
I do not see that in war a Christian is allowed to lie to the enemy at all. Jesus did not lie to the enemy ever.
Except that He did practice deception of the enemy.
After this Jesus went about in Galilee. He would not go about in Judea, because the Jews were seeking to kill him. Now the Jews' Feast of Tabernacles was at hand. So his brothers said to him, “Leave here and go to Judea, that your disciples also may see the works you are doing. For no one works in secret if he seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world.” For not even his brothers believed in him.
Jesus said to them, “My time has not yet come, but your time is always here. The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify about it that its works are evil. You go up to the feast. I am not going up to this feast, for my time has not yet fully come.” After saying this, he remained in Galilee.
But after his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he also went up, not publicly but in private. The Jews were looking for him at the feast, and saying, “Where is he?” -- John 7
I know this verse. It comes from texts that removed the word “Yet”Except that He did practice deception of the enemy.
After this Jesus went about in Galilee. He would not go about in Judea, because the Jews were seeking to kill him. Now the Jews' Feast of Tabernacles was at hand. So his brothers said to him, “Leave here and go to Judea, that your disciples also may see the works you are doing. For no one works in secret if he seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world.” For not even his brothers believed in him.
Jesus said to them, “My time has not yet come, but your time is always here. The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify about it that its works are evil. You go up to the feast. I am not going up to this feast, for my time has not yet fully come.” After saying this, he remained in Galilee.
But after his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he also went up, not publicly but in private. The Jews were looking for him at the feast, and saying, “Where is he?” -- John 7
That is very much in the tradition of John Henry Cardinal Newman who in Apologia Pro Vita Sua made something of the difference between an equivocation and a lie, and saw that this was sometimes our nearest approach to the truth.I don't believe deception is the same thing as lying. Hiding the truth is not the same as saying something that is completely untrue. Jesus was referring how He would not go publicly but that does not mean that He could not go secretly.
I know this verse. It comes from texts that removed the word “Yet”
so that the Sin of God can look
as though he lied. It makes no sense either because going to the Jewish feast would have been expected. But dubious texts found a way to get him to look like he lied. In any case, the siblings weren’t the enemy.
I don't believe deception is the same thing as lying. Hiding the truth is not the same as saying something that is completely untrue. Jesus was referring how He would not go publicly but that does not mean that He could not go secretly.
Did God commend or approve Rahab's lie?
...The first lie she told was that she didn't know where the spies were, when in fact she had just hidden them on her roof.....
She had the choice between disobeying two parts of God's will, avoiding telling a lie or protecting God's people from certain death. Sometimes, as in war, we have a choice both directions of which involve violations of God's law. She chose to protect the spies and told a lie. Such moral dilemmas happen rarely.
In her case, she chose to follow the higher moral principle of siding with God's people and protecting their lives rather than telling the truth. I think that God approved of her choice of the higher moral principle.
So you seem to suggest that while God would not approve of a lie, he is happy with misleading and deceptive practices so long as it is clever. That would seem to to embody a level of sophistry.I believe Rahab did not lie, but she employed a form of good deception by using clever word play in Joshua 2:5. She was referring to the two spies ultimate heading or final destination (of which she was unaware of), and she was cheering the guards with following words of encouragement (like a cheerleader cheers on her team without knowing whether or not they will win). If Rahab said she did not know where the two spies are this very moment, she would have lied. But she did not say that. She was referring to their end destination. Very clever she was. Most people just read too fast past these little details and just throw the hammer down at her because that is what most Christians believe these days. In fact, most Christians believe God told Hosea to marry a prostitute. Yet, if they were to read their KJV, it is in reference to marrying a woman who was a people of idolatry. It's not referring to her being a prostitute.
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