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I don't need to, but I choose too. . .last I heard, it's still a free country. . .enjoy the freedom while you can.Confession is between you and the Lord. You don't need to tell us you're good at being shonky.
Okay. . .I don't know, that's why I asked the question. You said:
"flesh gives birth to fleshly life (human life within the natural body),"
Human life isn't just our body, so how am I suppose to understand your statement above?
You do know what the term shonky means don't you? It doesn't bother me if you want to declare to the world how good you are at being bad. In fact, if everyone knows it will save them a lot of time for they won't need to bother reading or responding to any of your posts knowing all you say is of poor quality.I don't need to, but I choose too. . .last I heard, it's still a free country. . .enjoy the freedom while you can.
Are you saying Saul was never saved or are you saying he lost his salvation?Does God not use the unredeemed to accomplish his purposes?
And on what authoritative basis have you decided which you are?
Agreed. . .see post #125.
David repented. . .Saul did not. And when God did not respond to Saul, he left God and went to Satan (in the witch).
Is shonky like honky?You do know what the term shonky means don't you?
(This is beneath you.)It doesn't bother me if you want to declare to the world how good you are at being bad. In fact, if everyone knows it will save them a lot of time for they won't need to bother reading or responding to any of your posts knowing all you say is of poor quality.
Not in the way you are trying to force a square peg in the hole you got yourself into....Does God not use the unredeemed to accomplish his purposes?
Such glib assertions. So you disagree with, so far, 2000 years of the same understanding from the Apostles to now regarding predestination of believers. It was given by the Holy Spirit and preserved unchanged. You also disagree with scripture of I Tim 3:15 as well as II Pet 1:20. Why do you think that protestants have been protesting against each other for 500 years. They have gone from roughly four main reformers to literally thousand today. I would say the faulty human reasoning lies with you.Agreed. . .God does not need to do anything.
It's not about what he needs to do, it's about what he has sovereignly willed to do.
We know precisely the opposite from Ro 8:29-30, where "predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son" means believer/faith.
That is fallen human reasoning set against the plain word of God in Ro 8:29-30:
If you desire to believe that it is your choice. The only other person who had an idea on predestination earlier than Calvin was Augustine. However the Church did not accept his theory as scriptural. The RC developed some kind of hybrid predestination view in the 16 century to stop the flow of RC congregants to protestant denominations."For those God foreknew, he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son. . .and those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.". . .past tense. . .done deal. . .forever settled in heaven.
I'm aware of that. How did you miss that in my posts?We're talking about eternal. . .they aren't the same thing.
What are you trying to imply with that reference?Not in the way you are trying to force a square peg in the hole you got yourself into....
God does not guide the unbeliever as King Saul had been.
As Saul turned to leave Samuel, God changed Saul’s heart, and all these signs were fulfilled that day.
When he and his servant arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came
powerfully upon him, and he joined in their prophesying.
When all those who had formerly known him saw him prophesying with the prophets, they asked each other,
“What is this that has happened to the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?”
1 Samuel 10:9-11
Please look...The body without the spirit is dead. (Jas 2:26)
That means if the Jews had no immortal human spirit at that time, they would be physically dead.
Contraire. . .Ezra 1:2.Not in the way you are trying to force a square peg in the hole you got yourself into....
God does not guide the unbeliever as King Saul had been.
Not to rest and abide as upon Samuel, but to quickly leave him.As Saul turned to leave Samuel, God changed Saul’s heart, and all these signs were fulfilled that day.
When he and his servant arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came
powerfully upon him, and he joined in their prophesying.
No mention is made of his wisdom or virtue (1 Sa 9:2), only that he is a head taller than any of the others (1 Sa 9:2, 1 Sa 10:23),When all those who had formerly known him saw him prophesying with the prophets, they asked each other,
“What is this that has happened to the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?”
1 Samuel 10:9-11
No which is why it seems you didn't understand what I meant. Never mind. Not the first time.Is shonky like honky?
I was simply stating the obvious. If you are going to advertise you're good at being shonky then why should people bother with you? But it's obvious now you don't know what it means so it's all pretty pointless anyway.(This is beneath you.)
Yes. . .I know this is confusing. . .but spiritual death is not death of the immortal human spirit itself,Please look...
Unbelievers are physically alive. But, they are spiritually dead.
Let those who do not have God's divine eternal life imparted to their immortal human spirits go bury those who also do not.Physically dead people can not dig a grave. Let alone, be present, or in charge, of a burial.
He said to another man, “Follow me.” But he replied, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.”
Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.”
Luke 9:59-60
Which "corrections" are not in agreement with NT apostolic teaching; i.e., "The body without the spirit is dead." (Jas 2:26)Why do some have such a hard time with this?
They are shown corrections.. and they act as if they can not be wrong.
It must be in agreement with Scripture to be correction.How can anyone benefit from correction if that is the case?
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching,
rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness."
2 Tim 3:16
Okay, that explains a lot.Okay. . .
1) there's divine life, spirit (angel) life, and physical (human, animal and plant) life.
"Human" was to distinguish which one of the five.
2) Human beings are composed of body (physical), soul and spirit (spirit).
Physical produces physical (parents produce physical body).
Spirit (God) produces spirit (the soul and immortal human spirit are from God, the human spirit being without divine eternal life at birth).
What are you trying to imply with that reference?
Is there no difference between the Spirit of God 'coming upon' someone, and taking up residence within a person?
I'm not going to follow you into those weeds.Yes. . .I know this is confusing. . .but spiritual death is not death of the immortal human spirit itself,
rather it is withdrawal of God's divine eternal life imparted to the immortal human spirit at the fall of Adam.
We are born with immortal human spirits without God's divine eternal life imparted to them.
What Adam lost in his fall is re-imparted when one is born (again) from above (Jn 3:3).
I disagree with anything and anyone who disagrees with Scripture.Such glib assertions. So you disagree with, so far, 2000 years of the same understanding from the Apostles to now regarding predestination of believers.
I have no disagreement with either.It was given by the Holy Spirit and preserved unchanged. You also disagree with scripture of I Tim 3:15 as well as II Pet 1:20.
Actually, Paul had it before both of them (Ro 8:29, Ro 8:30, Eph 1:5, Eph 1:11).Why do you think that protestants have been protesting against each other for 500 years. They have gone from roughly four main reformers to literally thousand today. I would say the faulty human reasoning lies with you.
If you desire to believe that it is your choice. The only other person who had an idea on predestination earlier than Calvin was Augustine.
Romans and Ephesians are Scriptural.However the Church did not accept his theory as scriptural. The RC developed some kind of hybrid predestination view in the 16 century to stop the flow of RC congregants to protestant denominations.
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