Democrats intentionally used disinformation from Russia to attack Trump, campaign aides

[redleghunter]

Well someone actually did take info from the Kremlin to influence the election. And it wasn't Donny Trump.

Democrats intentionally used disinformation from Russia to attack Trump, campaign aides

Democrats spread false Russian information on Trump, campaign aides

 

[Go Braves]

That spy the article is about, Christopher Steele, was 1st hired by Republicans who didn't want Trump. Steele gave his memos on Trump's behavior to a Republican senator, who then delivered it to the FBI because it was so worrisome.

 

[redleghunter]

That spy the article is about, Christopher Steele, was 1st hired by Republicans who didn't want Trump. Steele gave his memos on Trump's behavior to a Republican senator, who then delivered it to the FBI because it was so worrisome.

Not worrisome as he sung like a canary to avoid libel.

 

[Go Braves]

Not worrisome as he sung like a canary to avoid libel.

Who did he sing like a canary to? I thought the FBI considered that dossier he complied on Trump credible. Obama was informed of it, so was Trump.

 

[redleghunter]

Who did he sing like a canary to? I thought the FBI considered that dossier he complied on Trump credible. Obama was informed of it, so was Trump.

Lol no. Read the article.

 

[Go Braves]

Lol no. Read the article.

I did read it the first part of it, then stopped when I realized it was crooked. It fails to mention key facts, like how Republicans first hired Steele, and he gave the memos with the damaging intel on Trump to a high-up Republican who gave it to the FBI.

 

[Hank77]

That spy the article is about, Christopher Steele, was 1st hired by Republicans who didn't want Trump. Steele gave his memos on Trump's behavior to a Republican senator, who then delivered it to the FBI because it was so worrisome.

Actually I was reading up on the Dossier today. I read that it was one Republican that was running against him that hired Fusion to begin with and they hired Steele. After the primaries the Rep. stopped the inquiries but a Dem. supporter then paid Fusion to continue the investigation and they kept Steele on.
I wonder how the Dem. supporter found out about it to begin with? Did Fusion contact them?

 

[Hank77]

Lol no. Read the article.

I read the article. He said in his filing that Fusion should never have made the Dossier public.
They shouldn't have because there were things in there that could not be verified.
So now Steele is being sued because Fusion did that.

 

[redleghunter]

I did read it the first part of it, then stopped when I realized it was crooked.

Keep reading. The dossier was planted by the Kremlin, Steele has recanted and testified in a libel case the data was unverified and should have never been made public.

It fails to mention key facts, like how Republicans first hired Steele, and he gave the memos with the damaging intel on Trump to a high-up Republican who gave it to the FBI.

It is no secret Trump's GOP enemies initiated the dossier buzz. However, they never made it public. That's why you should read the article before responding. It explains the larger facts. The DNC and Clinton campaign ran with the dossier that they knew was sourced from Kremlin intelligence sources to Steele. They ran with it, Dem senators quoted it and Hillary used the information in the September 2016 debate.

It's sad but also comical. The DNC and Hillary campaign used a Kremlin planted dossier to try to prove Trump was in collusion with the Russians against them.

 

[Go Braves]

Keep reading. The dossier was planted by the Kremlin, Steele has recanted and testified in a libel case the data was unverified and should have never been made public.





It is no secret Trump's GOP enemies initiated the dossier buzz. However, they never made it public. That's why you should read the article before responding. It explains the larger facts. The DNC and Clinton campaign ran with the dossier that they knew was sourced from Kremlin intelligence sources to Steele. They ran with it, Dem senators quoted it and Hillary used the information in the September 2016 debate.

It's sad but also comical. The DNC and Hillary campaign used a Kremlin planted dossier to try to prove Trump was in collusion with the Russians against them.

Have you got a better source than what you posted? I'm happy to read long articles but that one was just too biased to give time to.

I know McCain is being interviewed. The FBI considered the dossier legit.

 

[redleghunter]

I wonder how the Dem. supporter found out about it to begin with? Did Fusion contact them?

You are being nice. It's no secret the RNC and some GOP candidates wanted to derail a Trump nomination. They would love to have that dossier go public but realized Trump would have employed a scorched earth policy if they tried to contest the nomination at the convention. So cooler heads probably knew this was a Kremlin ploy, turned it off but those who vehemently hated Trump passed it on to the Hillary campaign.

Probably the GOP types who knew there would be no place at the table for them in a Trump admin but knew their would be in a Clinton admin. It's how the DC elite think and operate.

People can say much about Obama. However, he handled the Clintons well after he won the nomination in 2008. He met with them, made peace offered her a cabinet position and made it clear if she ever wanted to be president, to two the party line. I'm sure he knew if he did not, she would have initiated a scorched earth policy.

 

[redleghunter]

Have you got a better source than what you posted? I'm happy to read long articles but that one was just too biased to give time to.

I know McCain is being interviewed. The FBI considered the dossier legit.

I'm not forcing you to read a Washington Times article. However if you want to critique an article you should really read it. They are not citing unnamed sources like the NYTs and Washpo but stating public facts.

The mere fact these are public facts and not reported in much detail by the usual suspects of the MSM should give us all pause.

So attack the source all you want. This is my OP and to intelligently engage you should read the article. The TLDR excuse is not accepted.

 

[redleghunter]

I know McCain is being interviewed. The FBI considered the dossier legit.

Yes a US senator passing around bogus information is a concern the FBI should investigate. Passing around a Russian intelligence dossier, proven to contain unverified information is actually collusion.

 

[Hank77]

You are being nice. It's no secret the RNC and some GOP candidates wanted to derail a Trump nomination. They would love to have that dossier go public but realized Trump would have employed a scorched earth policy if they tried to contest the nomination at the convention. So cooler heads probably knew this was a Kremlin ploy, turned it off but those who vehemently hated Trump passed it on to the Hillary campaign.

Probably the GOP types who knew there would be no place at the table for them in a Trump admin but knew their would be in a Clinton admin. It's how the DC elite think and operate.

People can say much about Obama. However, he handled the Clintons well after he won the nomination in 2008. He met with them, made peace offered her a cabinet position and made it clear if she ever wanted to be president, to two the party line. I'm sure he knew if he did not, she would have initiated a scorched earth policy.

This certainly sound plausible.

 

[Go Braves]

I'm not forcing you to read a Washington Times article. However if you want to critique an article you should really read it. They are not citing unnamed sources like the NYTs and Washpo but stating public facts.

The mere fact these are public facts and not reported in much detail by the usual suspects of the MSM should give us all pause.

So attack the source all you want. This is my OP and to intelligently engage you should read the article. The TLDR excuse is not accepted.

It's not attacking, it's stating the fact that it's obviously biased. I say that as a Republican. I'm all for intellectual engagement, so long as it's honest.

 

[Go Braves]

Yes a US senator passing around bogus information is a concern the FBI should investigate.

It was a Republican senator. The FBI did investigate. They shared the dossier with Obama & Trump.

 

[redleghunter]

It was a Republican senator. The FBI did investigate. They shared the dossier with Obama & Trump.

Does it concern you that this dossier was planted by the Kremlin as disinformation with unverified information ---meaning accusations without facts. One of which stated a Trump ally went to Russia to have a meeting with a contact. And when checked out, the guy never left the country? That Trump paid hookers to pee on beds the Obamas slept in on the road? Which is an accusation no one could confirm.

Does it concern you our FBI takes such a propaganda document and uses tax payer money to front a full investigation of the allegations without first investigating the source document and how it came into the possession of GOP and Democrat elected officials and campaign sources?

 

[Hank77]

Have you got a better source than what you posted? I'm happy to read long articles but that one was just too biased to give time to.

I know McCain is being interviewed. The FBI considered the dossier legit.

Did you read the Vanity Fair article that I posted sometime today? I didn't think it was biased either way and gave a lot of detail. It's a long article.

 

[redleghunter]

Did you read the Vanity Fair article that I posted sometime today? I didn't think it was biased either way and gave a lot of detail. It's a long article.

Please link. Missed it. Would welcome another view.

 

[Go Braves]

Did you read the Vanity Fair article that I posted sometime today? I didn't think it was biased either way and gave a lot of detail. It's a long article.

I didn't see what you posted. I don't read Vanity Fair much, but I did just look on their site.
Donny Jr. Hands Over the Trump-Russia Smoking Gun
Is that one it? I'll read over the site more after work.