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Democrat Sheila Jackson Lee gets first-class seat on United ... after passenger bumped to economy

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by NightHawkeye, Dec 24, 2017.

  1. NightHawkeye

    NightHawkeye Work-in-progress Supporter

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    So ... when your other arguments have failed, resort to the race card?

    Do you believe that is effective any more?
     
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  2. cow451

    cow451 The Most Interesting Poster in the Forum Supporter

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    Your argument is Race Card inspired.
     
  3. Erik Nelson

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  4. SummerMadness

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    Isn't a bit racist to connect the hiring practices of an airline with a passenger getting bumped to economy because a Black congresswoman was placed in first class? The stories have absolutely nothing to do with each other in scope or topic.

    But also...

    HOLY THREAD NECROMANCY! THREE YEARS!!!
     
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  5. Hank77

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  6. Hazelelponi

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    If the woman got her seat taken because she was white it's racial discrimination.
     
  7. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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  8. Erik Nelson

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    You support aggressive affirmative action for Doctors also?

    What do you think would be most "fair" for the passengers who trust their lives to those pilots & flight crews?
     
  9. Erik Nelson

    Erik Nelson Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You have Google?
     
  10. FreeinChrist

    FreeinChrist CF Advisory team Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers

    Now comes the claim that you can't expect to literally believe the words that come out of Carlson's mouth. And that assertion is not coming from Carlson's critics. It's being made by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York and by Fox News's own lawyers in defending Carlson against accusations of slander. It worked, by the way.

    Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "​
     
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  11. Erik Nelson

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    United Airlines has long been catering to Democratic Party identity socialist ideologies, at the expense of others, for years :)

    A --- B
     
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  12. AvilaSurfer

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    White, black, leg room on a plane, Zzzzzzzzzzz.
     
  13. Erik Nelson

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  14. Pommer

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    A broken digital clock is just borked.
    Edit: no one is disputing that United airlines is dedicated to hiring more women and POC.
     
  15. Erik Nelson

    Erik Nelson Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Had seat "1A"

    Jean-Marie Simon

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    Jean-Marie Simon is a graduate of Georgetown University and Harvard Law School.

    Simon was a Fulbright scholarship and was awarded the Bunting fellowship (Radcliffe/Harvard)...
     
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  16. Hank77

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    If a medical school trains 50% women and minorities to be doctors and 50% white males to be doctors...sure I can support that.
    Are you insinuating that women and minorities can't be as proficient, etc. as white males can?
    To have well-trained pilots who are women, minorities, and white males.
    If the pilots are well-trained the passengers are just as safe no matter the gender, or race, etc.
    I remember when there were just stewardesses serving the passengers then men said that wasn't fair and now there are stewards as well because the airlines did what? They diversified.
     
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  17. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    [​IMG]
     
  18. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    LOL

    Say, how do you rate Delta, American and Southwest?
     
  19. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    So you don't have a reliable source I see.
     
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  20. Gene2memE

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    The aviation sector generally has a long term goal of increasing the number of women and minorities in cockpits. Also in managerial and technical and engineering role.

    Less than 5% of commercial cockpit crew globally are women. At commercial airlines, women make up just 1% of actual captains, meaning that the rest are first officers (i.e. second in command). Of those that actually are pilots, women are further under-represented in flying jobs for high capacity jet aircraft (which are the high paying jobs).

    United had (pre-coronavirus) a cockpit crew workforce of ~13,500 pilots and FOs. A little more than half its cockpit workforce is due for retirement over the next decade, due to age rules. The airline has a churn rate of about 1000 to 1100 cockpit positions a year.

    It will need, at a minimum, 10,000 to 11,000 new pilots in the next decade (likely more).

    If women/minorities get 50% of the training slots (which isn't going to happen, for reasons too involved to get into here), that still leaves somewhere from 7500 to 8500 other cockpit crew positions that will be filled by not-women and not-minorities.
     
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