It might be more meaningful to this conversation if you told us where you get your news.
If you don't mind my asking ...
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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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The House, yes, but not the Senate. We keep saying this - why don't you hear it?
As the leader of the House Democrats, she does not think a suicide move is the right thing to do. Also, it is premature as there are still investigations ongoing.
The Mueller investigation was limited to Russian interference with the 2016 election. Donald's possible corruption is much wider in scope.
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Yet I keep hearing here that further investigation is necessary.
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I get my news from mostly three sources, the newspaper and MSNBC, CNN. But I myself wasn't asking because it means anything as per this conversation. I study semantics.
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It definitely makes a difference for many people.
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I can see it being "as meaningful", but not "more". I see that one person answered the question, while surprise! the other one hasn't.
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The question wasn't addressed to me. Let's give time for both posters to respond. Sound fair?
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Yes, the Mueller investigation was limited to Russian interference with the 2016 election and anything directly related.
Donald lied during the campaign when he baldly stated that he was not currently involved with Russia, even though he was actively seeking a real estate deal there at that time. Donald has not disclosed his tax returns while also not putting his business in a blind trust. Donald is leasing a property from the US government even though no government official is supposed to while foreign officials (as well as US lobbyists) stay at his property, seeking to do business with the government. Donald hosts official events at his properties which means he is profiteering. Donald has done business with Deutsche Bank, a bank known for money laundering, after American banks refused to do business with him (after six - count 'em, six! bankruptcies).
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Yet you demanded the poster to answer it anyway. Which he did.
How much time does it take? The one who was originally asked has made a couple of posts in this thread since the question was asked...
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Sessions also wouldn't have had to recuse himself had he not lied under oath about his contacts with Russia.
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No. As the OP, to help facilitate good discussion, I suggested that offering a quid pro quo might elicit the desired information. I have no idea whether it will or not ... but it often does. Open honesty does that.
People operate on different schedules.
Considering that it took the poster four hours to respond to my Quid Pro Quo suggestion, I'd say you have a few more hours to wait ... if you're at all concerned about fairness. Even more time would be better. One almost never knows another's schedule.
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I don't think it's ethical to investigate in service to an insinuation. But it's also not ethical to allow another country to swing an election so as to determine our country's foreign policy.
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Even with the DNC and HRC campaign bought Trump dossier from the Russians, the election turned out as expected. Hillary was not a very good candidate for POTUS. I think even President Obama realized this.
Again, that is the only evidence we do have of a political party 'colluding' with foreign entities to sway the election...the Trump dossier.
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Is the Russian Ambassador (Kislyak) part of the Russian government? Did Sessions meet with Kislyak twice in the timeframe he was asked about? Did Sessions give an unequivocal "No" in his response to having contacts with "any member of the Russian government"?
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