Deeper Fellowship member intro and Guidelines for posting

[StephanieP]

I've been reading and I don't understand what deeper fellowship means.

 

[groktruth]

I've been reading and I don't understand what deeper fellowship means.

Here are some levels of fellowship, starting with the most shallow.

"Here's some stuff you might want to think or know about." Casual counsel.

"Here's something I heard God say to all believers." Streetcorner wisdom/prophecy.

"Do you see what I see? Or hear what I hear?" Confirming friendship.

"I hear God telling me to tell you..." Personal prophecy.

"Hey, neighbor, let me help you." Personal on-going, but non-covenental responsibility, charity.

"Hey, brother, sister, let me help you." Household of faith responsibility, charity.

"We are members jointed directly to each other in the body of Christ." Covenant love.

 

[StephanieP]

Here are some levels of fellowship, starting with the most shallow.

"Here's some stuff you might want to think or know about." Casual counsel.

"Here's something I heard God say to all believers." Streetcorner wisdom/prophecy.

"Do you see what I see? Or hear what I hear?" Confirming friendship.

"I hear God telling me to tell you..." Personal prophecy.

"Hey, neighbor, let me help you." Personal on-going, but non-covenental responsibility, charity.

"Hey, brother, sister, let me help you." Household of faith responsibility, charity.

"We are members jointed directly to each other in the body of Christ." Covenant love.

Thank you but I meant what type of things would be more appropriate in this section as opposed to any other section on the forum.

 

[groktruth]

Thank you but I meant what type of things would be more appropriate in this section as opposed to any other section on the forum.

I'm hoping that it means that those posting here want to move onto the deeper levels, and either want low-level input to guide them in getting deeper in wherever they are assembled together, or are looking for kindred spirits they can personally e-mail with questions they may not want to post publically, looking for personal prophecy, say.

Or, best of all, others with whom they can find agreement about the place of "deeper fellowship" in the lives of believers, with whom they can pray in agreement for the Spirit to go forth and birth this in places where such is needed for revival to happen.

 

[StephanieP]

I'm hoping that it means that those posting here want to move onto the deeper levels, and either want low-level input to guide them in getting deeper in wherever they are assembled together, or are looking for kindred spirits they can personally e-mail with questions they may not want to post publically, looking for personal prophecy, say.

Or, best of all, others with whom they can find agreement about the place of "deeper fellowship" in the lives of believers, with whom they can pray in agreement for the Spirit to go forth and birth this in places where such is needed for revival to happen.

I'm sorry but I'm still confused.

 

[NYkravitz]

Hello

 

[groktruth]

I'm sorry but I'm still confused.

Do you have, or are you seeking a mentor, with whom you can personally, eye to eye, ask for clarity?

 

[jiaru]

hello, everyone here, glad to knw u all here...im new here...from malaysia, nice to meet everyone of u, hope to got to knw other christians and share our faith tgther here, yea.................

 

[groktruth]

hello, everyone here, glad to knw u all here...im new here...from malaysia, nice to meet everyone of u, hope to got to knw other christians and share our faith tgther here, yea.................

Greetings, and welcome! The Lord has told us, in writing yet, that in many counselors there is victory! I am looking for counsel for where we might begin, in being on, or helping others onto, the "highway to holiness." What has He given you to share?

 

[RickardoHolmes]

Well, I don't Exactly know where to start so here goes.
I practice a very spiritual, non-religious life. Some have labeled me as a "mystic" although I am not into labels....
I seek to transcend that which is earthly, negative and self defeating and rise to a higher level of consciousness, serving as a light to those around me, striving to bring that which is positive and beneficial for our world and humanity.
My philosophy is a heavy blend of Christianity and Buddhism, and NO They are not incompatable, as anyone on the path will learn. I don't force or interfere with others , as we each have to find the path which works for us, based on our unique experiences. But I do focus on a Spiritual relationship and not a religious one. I have jokingly said that a spiritual life is one with One's Own God, whereas a religious one is a relationship with someone else's god......But aside for m rituals and rules I maintain a focus on that which is Good and Right and ask myself daily, what would be the Christ response?

 

[groktruth]

Well, I don't Exactly know where to start so here goes.
I practice a very spiritual, non-religious life. Some have labeled me as a "mystic" although I am not into labels....
I seek to transcend that which is earthly, negative and self defeating and rise to a higher level of consciousness, serving as a light to those around me, striving to bring that which is positive and beneficial for our world and humanity.
My philosophy is a heavy blend of Christianity and Buddhism, and NO They are not incompatable, as anyone on the path will learn. I don't force or interfere with others , as we each have to find the path which works for us, based on our unique experiences. But I do focus on a Spiritual relationship and not a religious one. I have jokingly said that a spiritual life is one with One's Own God, whereas a religious one is a relationship with someone else's god......But aside for m rituals and rules I maintain a focus on that which is Good and Right and ask myself daily, what would be the Christ response?

Good post! I believe we all agree that hypocrisy is a bad thing, and the biblical wisdom on religion, and religions, is that it/they are best limited to "visiting widows and orphans in their distress, and keeping oneself unstained from the world" through "bridling the tongue." Most religions have got good points and bad, but spiritual truth "will set you free."

You state your intent: "striving to bring that which is positive and beneficial for our world and humanity." What sort of specifics are you hoping to see bettered? What is your hope or plan? How do you see us helping?

 

[razeontherock]

I think Jesus mastered the beauty of Buddhism. And had to, to endure the Cross ... I could talk about that for a while but your post is intriguing!

 

[RickardoHolmes]

Well Thank You

So, I don't know exactly what I want to see made better in the world that is truly any different than what any of us want.

I felt good about something that happened today, I am not bragging but I am so happy because my son realized that something he agreed to do is being done simply because it is the RIGHT thing to do pure and simple.

TO make a long story short, after a discussion about how well we have things in life and how there are so many homeless people in our community who have nothing, he (not me but HE) suggested that we go over on Thanksgiving morning (after the meditation on Thanksgiving) and help feed the people who always gather for a meal that have no ways and means to provide their own. he wants nothing in return for doing it, but for an 11 year old who has issues, this is big. He is thinking of how HE can do something that will impact others. This is a breakthrough on many many levels that I cannot even go into here as time and space do not permit. He has certain psych issues and when he realized that he can make a positive impact in someone's life who neeeds it, then YES this is BIG!!!

I told him that helping others is what he may ultimately discover is the most meaningful part of life. So we are arranging to help out on Thanksgiving.

Something about this forum "deeper fellowship" appeals to me and I want to hear and share stories with all of you. We may not agree on everything, but I certainly do not bring fearmongering and hate to this forum. And if I sound hypocritical, feel free to give me a swift kick in the backside and set me straight.

 

[groktruth]

Well Thank You

So, I don't know exactly what I want to see made better in the world that is truly any different than what any of us want.

I felt good about something that happened today, I am not bragging but I am so happy because my son realized that something he agreed to do is being done simply because it is the RIGHT thing to do pure and simple.

TO make a long story short, after a discussion about how well we have things in life and how there are so many homeless people in our community who have nothing, he (not me but HE) suggested that we go over on Thanksgiving morning (after the meditation on Thanksgiving) and help feed the people who always gather for a meal that have no ways and means to provide their own. he wants nothing in return for doing it, but for an 11 year old who has issues, this is big. He is thinking of how HE can do something that will impact others. This is a breakthrough on many many levels that I cannot even go into here as time and space do not permit. He has certain psych issues and when he realized that he can make a positive impact in someone's life who neeeds it, then YES this is BIG!!!

I told him that helping others is what he may ultimately discover is the most meaningful part of life. So we are arranging to help out on Thanksgiving.

Something about this forum "deeper fellowship" appeals to me and I want to hear and share stories with all of you. We may not agree on everything, but I certainly do not bring fearmongering and hate to this forum. And if I sound hypocritical, feel free to give me a swift kick in the backside and set me straight.

Good post. Encouraging. Here's what it makes me think of.

A counselor had told me that there was a mysterious connection between my own efforts to grow, and my children's. So, i spent some time meditating (on pride and self-aggrandizement) with the hope that I would see my "sons" (children of my new wife, still deciding whether or not to see me as dad) awakened spiritually. Yesterday, to my surprise, as we were changing in the healthclub pool locker room, we had a moment where they had a question important to them, that they let me in on!

I deeply respect your last comment, about "a swift kick in the backside." Truth be told, I wonder about my ability to "know my own sin," and seek deeper fellowship in hopes that I will both become more aware, and more careful. My choice is to change my mind and grow spiritually. But my inclination is to justify myself, and hide my faults. Maybe this is what the scriptures call "the flesh warring against the spirit." Anyway, let me know what it might be good for me to think about, and I'll do the same for you.

 

[neclipse]

As of now, I have been known and called in my Christian walk, a radical, evanglist, preacher, teacher, judger, hypocrite, brother, prophet, minister, youth pastor, moses, paul, david, peter and servant. But, all those listed above do not suffice with me. Once you go to the furtherest limits of a Christian walk, or have brought into the fold of a progressive, holy-spirit filled church where everyone is in need of constant healing and being gifted with those anointings, you want more. Is there more to being just a Christian? What about being one of those people you hear that bring money and food to people in need and finding those people only through prayer. How about standing up in a restraunt and screaming Jesus and the presence of God falling and causing people to cry out and fall to their knees. What about the scene where you see people stand up and say that God has healed them. Which I have seen personally the power of His presence, prophetic word spoken on point, demons cast out, word of knowledge brought forth to a unbeliever, conviction to those who are hearing the word of the Lord, Healings, revelations, mystryies of the Spirit, and crucifiying of the brethern. '

Where do we draw the line between knowing God and Living it out? Where is the imit of the peer and congretations influences over you presonal walk with Christ. What Sin according to the bible is always on your mind. How to go back and make things right, are some of the few questions that I have answered in myself. So speaking from exprience yet unable to really continue on this path, I know the truth I just dont want it as my life would tell you.

 

[groktruth]

As of now, I have been known and called in my Christian walk, a radical, evanglist, preacher, teacher, judger, hypocrite, brother, prophet, minister, youth pastor, moses, paul, david, peter and servant. But, all those listed above do not suffice with me. Once you go to the furtherest limits of a Christian walk, or have brought into the fold of a progressive, holy-spirit filled church where everyone is in need of constant healing and being gifted with those anointings, you want more. Is there more to being just a Christian? What about being one of those people you hear that bring money and food to people in need and finding those people only through prayer. How about standing up in a restraunt and screaming Jesus and the presence of God falling and causing people to cry out and fall to their knees. What about the scene where you see people stand up and say that God has healed them. Which I have seen personally the power of His presence, prophetic word spoken on point, demons cast out, word of knowledge brought forth to a unbeliever, conviction to those who are hearing the word of the Lord, Healings, revelations, mystryies of the Spirit, and crucifiying of the brethern. '

Where do we draw the line between knowing God and Living it out? Where is the imit of the peer and congretations influences over you presonal walk with Christ. What Sin according to the bible is always on your mind. How to go back and make things right, are some of the few questions that I have answered in myself. So speaking from exprience yet unable to really continue on this path, I know the truth I just dont want it as my life would tell you.

Remembering our Lord's warning that there would be many false versions of Him to deceive us, it important that we continually strive to "be sure of our calling and election." The command from the Spirit in scripture to do this (2 Peter 1:10) is the strongest exhortation written.

Now the true gospel, as given by the Lord Himself, what we call the great commission, is Matt 28:18-20. It contains seven steps.

1. Affirm and understand that all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Jesus. Pray to rightly divide the word, "authority," from words like leadership, counsel, prophecy, exhortation, and so on. Remember His warning in the parable of the sower. Without adequate preparation (understanding, a root, separation from the world) the seed will be unfruitful.

2.Seek to be made into a disciple. Study this word, divide it from christian, or the questionable (1 Gorinth 1:12) "Ghristian." Look for an apostle to make you into a disciple, or ask of the Spirit if a qualified apostle is not to be found.

3. Be baptised in the name of the father, the law and the prophets.

4. Be baptised in the name of the Son, His commandments to His disciples.

5. Be baptised in the name of the Spirit, the many admonitions and exhortations of the Spirit in scripture.

6. Take a course, with a mentor or instructor, in the commandments of the Lord Jesus, that He gave His disciples. Bill Gothard has the only published curriculum that I know of, in all of history!

7. Learn to walk in the spirit, being continually conscious of His presence, striving to only do what you see Him doing, only saying what you hear Him saying.

A qualified apostle will be able to recite the commandments of the Lord Jesus to His disciples, and will have a teaching on each one. He will be prepared to be a mentor in step 6.

After years of this study, the goals you have, of great works, will start to become a reality in your life. But, as our Lord did, wait for your time to come. His first miracle, according to John, turning the water into wine, was done quite tentatively, as He made sure that His Father was releasing Him to work.

 

[neclipse]

I have known those who find the walk with Christ to be the most exciting thing out there. Also, the understanding that, Yes I am aware of the following commands, and have at one point sincerely been there. At one point I have had 3 mentors, 2 of them were renown men of faith known to the world. I have felt, that I have scoundered all the blessings that were given to me, and knowing what the word says. Knowing the fact that the God is in control. Wat do you do once God has taken you to such extreme heights in the spirit and all you want is peace and quite, and to not be an ambassador but just a gentle giant killer.

To look back and realize, was there more to being a passive flesh killer.
maybe I am being just a immature rebelious child, but I prefer talking about God to those in a bar then in Church. To pray for people who have never been prayed for before, then those who go to the alter every service and pray for a miracle. My excitement is to see that those who are hurt and wounded to know the true Jesus, not the pleathra of denomenations, or the pseudo religions claiming false prophets. As of now, I must say some of these desires to go back to church and to start a riots in mega churchs is inticing. But, I do have a bit of zeal without wisdom.

As of now I am quit racist do to environmental circumstances, political standpoints, and agreeing with darwin when he says survival of the fittest. I currently am a independent, with the idea that I should sell everything I own and give to those in need. I consider myself a Christian Pirate by trade, trying to sail the seas of belief that I will fulfill the calling God has over me in due time. Having a terrible image of what Christ looks like most of the time, unable to stop conversations about Jesus from springing up wherever I am, and unable to control the desires of the missionary prophet in me. So what do I call it, when my religion and constant teaching of you need to be healed at every waking moment due to your fallen nature. Is our only purpose to supply heaven with plenty of souls, and wait for a greater reward and a new kingdom, were our judgment as Children of Him will be granted to us for our purpose in His new heaven. What else, my greater hunger suprass that of my teachers and causes me to be arrogant, and occasionaly shunned.

Getting my thoughts in writing feels good!!!

 

[groktruth]

I have known those who find the walk with Christ to be the most exciting thing out there. Also, the understanding that, Yes I am aware of the following commands, and have at one point sincerely been there. At one point I have had 3 mentors, 2 of them were renown men of faith known to the world. I have felt, that I have scoundered all the blessings that were given to me, and knowing what the word says. Knowing the fact that the God is in control. Wat do you do once God has taken you to such extreme heights in the spirit and all you want is peace and quite, and to not be an ambassador but just a gentle giant killer.

To look back and realize, was there more to being a passive flesh killer.
maybe I am being just a immature rebelious child, but I prefer talking about God to those in a bar then in Church. To pray for people who have never been prayed for before, then those who go to the alter every service and pray for a miracle. My excitement is to see that those who are hurt and wounded to know the true Jesus, not the pleathra of denomenations, or the pseudo religions claiming false prophets. As of now, I must say some of these desires to go back to church and to start a riots in mega churchs is inticing. But, I do have a bit of zeal without wisdom.

As of now I am quit racist do to environmental circumstances, political standpoints, and agreeing with darwin when he says survival of the fittest. I currently am a independent, with the idea that I should sell everything I own and give to those in need. I consider myself a Christian Pirate by trade, trying to sail the seas of belief that I will fulfill the calling God has over me in due time. Having a terrible image of what Christ looks like most of the time, unable to stop conversations about Jesus from springing up wherever I am, and unable to control the desires of the missionary prophet in me. So what do I call it, when my religion and constant teaching of you need to be healed at every waking moment due to your fallen nature. Is our only purpose to supply heaven with plenty of souls, and wait for a greater reward and a new kingdom, were our judgment as Children of Him will be granted to us for our purpose in His new heaven. What else, my greater hunger suprass that of my teachers and causes me to be arrogant, and occasionaly shunned.

Getting my thoughts in writing feels good!!!

Thank you for an honest post. I was beginning to lose hope that there were any left like you.

Wish you were handy, for that discussion in a bar.

But, let's be happy, starting with God! We know what makes Him happy: Our being fruitful, and multiplying, filling the earth and subduing it, ruling over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and all the beasts.

As I see it, that you took up the mentoring that was there is a good thing. That God got you out of the religious system is even better.

Let us pray that He keep us from backsliding. Our call is to separate the precious from the vile, hear everything, hold on to what is good. Throw out the bathwater, but not the baby. With Him, at His right hand, we will find happiness, joy, pleasure, abundant life. But we must separate ourselves from the lawless, those who "think beyond what is written" as they build His church.

It's good, as you say, to get it all written down. Also to learn that you are not alone.

Love is good fruit. Love is playing by the rules, keeping the commandments. He promises that if you do this, you will indeed be wiser than your teachers. The lawful teachers are praying for this. The others will, as you note, shun you. Making it easy for you to separate from them.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

I don't know if I have written in this forum before, so I am signing in. Hello everyone!

 

[groktruth]

I don't know if I have written in this forum before, so I am signing in. Hello everyone!

Welcome!

As a senior veteran, has God given you any insights about the times we are in?

G.