Debate help...why is homosexuality wrong?

[GenemZ]

I am a lesbian, and some "rules" in the bible (more so in the old testament) were only set for a certain minority of people for a certain time due to situations in the land and stuff, the rules are now void, they are irrelevent.

If those rules are now irrelevent? Then having sex with your uncle is fine. And, having sex with your neighbor's horse is equally fine. Its interesting how only the homosexuality clause in that part of the law is no longer to count for today.

many faiths like, judaism and so fouth still use these laws, which does not signify christianity as such. Christianity is not all about rules and regulations it's about the personal relationship you have with god!

And, this same God saw homosexual acts as loathsome and an abomination. The Hebrew word used to described the acts is to show how God sees it as one of lowest things a person can do.

Why did God's Word have to use such strong language? Because he knew that those with a predilection for homosexual desire, would be dull to the severity of their sin. They live in a dream world about it. They see nothing wrong with it.

his love is unconditional, he didn't say you are worthy of death if you sin, those were in the old rules, he died for the sin!

Not so fast, now! God does not allow us to CONTINUE in sin if we are his.

1 John 3:9 niv
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.



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How does God make sure we do not continue in sin? If we persist?

1 John 5:16 niv
If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that.



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There comes a point when others stop praying and throw up their hands to God. They let go, and leave God to put an end to it. AIDS comes to mind on this one. Yet, God was causing some to die who partook of the Communion with disrespect continuously. God shows no favoritism. What ever our area of weakness might be? If we continue to refuse God's grace entrance to make us strong? God is no respector of persons. Sin is sin.... no matter what the sin may be.

bro's and sister's our god is gr8! and fellow GLBT members of christ! break the mould, pull on through, cos you know god loves you!

Sounds like....

2 Timothy 4:3 niv
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.


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God's Word does not vary to show favoritism for one group over another. Jesus died for all our sins. Not just for straights. Every act of sodomy was poured on Christ as he hung on the Cross!

That's why it says......

Hebrews 12:2 niv
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

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In Christ, GeneZ



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[Proselyte]

GeneZ, you pretty much said everything I wanted to say and more.
/high 5

 

[crumbs2000]

Paul was not a violent homophobe. He had been a genius prodigy in the Religious heirarchy of Judaism. He was to Judaism, what Bill Gates is to the computer world.

Paul had memorized the Law of God perfectly. Yet, he was now a sinner saved by grace in Christ. Homosexuality is condemned in the Law. God entrusted his Word to the Jews! Israel had no problem with homosexuality. It was Rome that was running wild. Paul was sent to the Gentiles. You do not see the others speaking about homosexuality, because they were sent to the Jews.

To call Paul homophobic?

That would be like calling a policeman who just gave you a ticket for doing 120 in a 65MPH zone? "Tachophobic."

There is no substance to your argument. Pauls words on the matter were not in regards to his personal feelings, nor fears. His words were based upon his knowledge of God's Word.

What causes Christians fear in the face of homosexuals who openly defy God's Word? Is not their fear of homosexuality. It is their fear of seeing someone arrogantly defying God's will. They fear for the others life, and feel powerless to get him to see his need for a real Salvation. One which really saves.

Jude 1:23 niv
"snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh."


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Not all fear is understood by the other who is blind to what he is doing. If it were? The one fearing would not be having need to.

In Christ, GeneZ

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I didn't say he was. I postulated that theory based on the fact that Paul's letters were not even written by him. To compare him to the Bill Gates of his time......well, that's as much speculation as my post.

"Paul had memorized the Law of God perfectly. Yet, he was now a sinner saved by grace in Christ. Homosexuality is condemned in the Law. God entrusted his Word to the Jews! Israel had no problem with homosexuality. It was Rome that was running wild. Paul was sent to the Gentiles. You do not see the others speaking about homosexuality, because they were sent to the Jews."

From the above then.....because they were sent to the Jews as there was no homosexuality during that time amongst the Jews - they just had no comment on it whatsover? Yeah, righto. That makes so much sense.

So homosexuality was localised to the 'Romans'???

 

[crumbs2000]

God does love everyone. But, God does not love the sin.

God loves you if your gay. But you will damned forever if you ever kissed or had sex with your partner???

So, he (God) loves the person, and their homosexual tendencies. But the act of copulation makes him a sinner to be damned eternally as much as say someone like Adolf Hitler who instigated genocide on a religious group?

And yet a heterosexual christian who will continue to sin their entire life, will be fine because they are heterosexual???

 

[HelloToAll]

I'm pleased to answer these:


Do you believe in the Triune God? Yes

Do you believe that the Bible is the Word of God? Yes

Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God? Yes

Do you believe in the subsitutionary attonement of Jesus for our sins? Yes

Do you believe that homosexual sex acts are righteous before God? No

Do you believe there is a heaven and that the one and only God dwells there? Yes

Do you believe there is a hell and that all people who don't accept salvation via Jesus go there for eternity? Yes



All are welcomed to answer these questions, and please do, and let your fellow Christians know where you stand.

Amen!

 

[Proselyte]

God loves you if your gay. But you will damned forever if you ever kissed or had sex with your partner???

So, he (God) loves the person, and their homosexual tendencies. But the act of copulation makes him a sinner to be damned eternally as much as say someone like Adolf Hitler who instigated genocide on a religious group?

And yet a heterosexual christian who will continue to sin their entire life, will be fine because they are heterosexual???

Crumbs, any Christian who habitually sins though they know it's wrong, be it the drug user, child molester, practicing homosexual, pre-marital sex participant...whatever it may be is in a perilous position.

It's not just practicing homosexuality. Jesus died for our sins, but not so we can continue to repeat the same ones WILLINGLY.

I know getting drunk is a sin. I stopped. I know downloading music I didn't pay for is theft. I stopped. And many more I can add to that list. I have the knowledge of what is good and bad. If I continue to repeat those sins willfully, my heart is not on God.

 

[crumbs2000]

Crumbs, any Christian who habitually sins though they know it's wrong, be it the drug user, child molester, practicing homosexual, pre-marital sex participant...whatever it may be is in a perilous position.

It's not just practicing homosexuality. Jesus died for our sins, but not so we can continue to repeat the same ones WILLINGLY.

I know getting drunk is a sin. I stopped. I know downloading music I didn't pay for is theft. I stopped. And many more I can add to that list. I have the knowledge of what is good and bad. If I continue to repeat those sins willfully, my heart is not on God.

Where does it say that getting drunk is a sin?
It also says that divorce is not permitted but as someone posted before, the divorce rate in christians is as high as 50%?
As for the music download being theft that's a whole other issue which I won't go into. It's only theft because it's deemed illegal by the policy makers. Here in our country, they have changed the laws that we can download music for personal use and is not a breach of copyright. Does that still make it theft? It's very relative.........
A person who smokes pot in the US breaks the law, yet I can smoke to my hearts content in Amsterdam. I can buy heroin from the govenrment in Switzerland. I can chew coca leaves in Peru.
I don't understand your analogy?

Would heterosexuals christians practising anal sex be damned as homosexuals?

 

[HelloToAll]

God loves you if your gay. But you will damned forever if you ever kissed or had sex with your partner???

So, he (God) loves the person, and their homosexual tendencies. But the act of copulation makes him a sinner to be damned eternally as much as say someone like Adolf Hitler who instigated genocide on a religious group?

And yet a heterosexual christian who will continue to sin their entire life, will be fine because they are heterosexual???

Crumbs, people committing various kinds of sins does not justify people committing homosexuality. Heterosexuals continuing to sin are just as wrong as people who are committing homosexuality. The Bible is clear, we must repent of all sins, whether the sin is adultery, homosexuality, idolatry, theft, etc.

Crumbs, any Christian who habitually sins though they know it's wrong, be it the drug user, child molester, practicing homosexual, pre-marital sex participant...whatever it may be is in a perilous position.

It's not just practicing homosexuality. Jesus died for our sins, but not so we can continue to repeat the same ones WILLINGLY.

I know getting drunk is a sin. I stopped. I know downloading music I didn't pay for is theft. I stopped. And many more I can add to that list. I have the knowledge of what is good and bad. If I continue to repeat those sins willfully, my heart is not on God.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Proselyte again.

 

[Proselyte]

Where does it say that getting drunk is a sin?
It also says that divorce is not permitted but as someone posted before, the divorce rate in christians is as high as 50%?
As for the music download being theft that's a whole other issue which I won't go into. It's only theft because it's deemed illegal by the policy makers. Here in our country, they have changed the laws that we can download music for personal use and is not a breach of copyright. Does that still make it theft? It's very relative.........
A person who smokes pot in the US breaks the law, yet I can smoke to my hearts content in Amsterdam. I can buy heroin from the govenrment in Switzerland. I can chew coca leaves in Peru.
I don't understand your analogy?

Would heterosexuals christians practising anal sex be damned as homosexuals?

Galatians 5:19-21

19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; DRUNKENESS, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Crumbs, I can dig up many other quotes against drunkeness in the Bible.

Downloading mp3s and software you didn't pay for is illegal and theft. There is no rationalization against that one either.

You can legally smoke pot in other countries, but once again, the Bible is against being in an altered state from outside influences other than God. The Bible speaks many times on not indulging in pleasures of the flesh, altering your mind, polluting your body with harmful things...all that can apply to illegal drugs. Getting high is equal to and worse depending on the drug as being drunk. If you want to dispute this, you can't dispute Romans:

Romans 13:1-7 states: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."

Basically obey the law of the land. Pot is illegal here, thus do not do it. That aside from any of the other Biblical reasons supporting staying away from it.

Finally the sodomy among heterosexual married couples issue...I haven't looked into that enough, which I can if you like. I haven't had an urge to do that myself, but I am sure others have questions on that. Perhaps someone else may want to answer that while I look into the matter.

 

[crumbs2000]

Galatians 5:19-21

19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; DRUNKENESS, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Crumbs, I can dig up many other quotes against drunkeness in the Bible.

Downloading mp3s and software you didn't pay for is illegal and theft. There is no rationalization against that one either.

You can legally smoke pot in other countries, but once again, the Bible is against being in an altered state from outside influences other than God. The Bible speaks many times on not indulging in pleasures of the flesh, altering your mind, polluting your body with harmful things...all that can apply to illegal drugs. Getting high is equal to and worse depending on the drug as being drunk. If you want to dispute this, you can't dispute Romans:

Romans 13:1-7 states: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."

Basically obey the law of the land. Pot is illegal here, thus do not do it. That aside from any of the other Biblical reasons supporting staying away from it.

Finally the sodomy among heterosexual married couples issue...I haven't looked into that enough, which I can if you like. I haven't had an urge to do that myself, but I am sure others have questions on that. Perhaps someone else may want to answer that while I look into the matter.

Your quote of Galatians doesn't carry any weight with me. Again, it was written for a particular audience by someone who was 'inspired'. Actually, no, it wasn't even written by that person.......

By that very passage, 90% of all the people in this forum would be in hell.

If a person has 1 glass of alcohol but do not have alcohol dehydrogenase enzyme in them to break down alcohol, and he gets drunk on less than a glass, you would call that sinning?

Please......Jesus himself imbibed the alcoholic stuff. And there's no mention of drugs either.

As far as submitting myself to the governing authorities??? According to your infallible Romans I should.
The Germans did that in WWII and exterminated many people.
Were they right to follow the laws. Germans were counted as christians as well. and they probably thought they were doing the right thing to follow without question the so-called law of the land.

 

[crumbs2000]

Once again your definition of illegal is RELATIVE not ABSOLUTE. As I you have acknowledged yourself. Pleasures of the flesh? Drugs are only illegal as is deemed by the government of that country. So in other countries then, it wouldn't count as part of the so called pleasures of the flesh or whatever you chose to group it in.

This is just an example of the hypocrisy that exists. People talk in absolute terms yet things are not.

 

[SanctiSpiritus]

Great posts Proselyte & Gramaic. Keep up the good work.

 

[Proselyte]

Your quote of Galatians doesn't carry any weight with me. Again, it was written for a particular audience by someone who was 'inspired'. Actually, no, it wasn't even written by that person.......

By that very passage, 90% of all the people in this forum would be in hell.

If a person has 1 glass of alcohol but do not have alcohol dehydrogenase enzyme in them to break down alcohol, and he gets drunk on less than a glass, you would call that sinning?

Please......Jesus himself imbibed the alcoholic stuff. And there's no mention of drugs either.

As far as submitting myself to the governing authorities??? According to your infallible Romans I should.
The Germans did that in WWII and exterminated many people.
Were they right to follow the laws. Germans were counted as christians as well. and they probably thought they were doing the right thing to follow without question the so-called law of the land.

/sigh

The continued habitual sin is what puts us in jeopardy. Not what we did in the past if we are repentant of it, and have overcome it. God is very forgiving, but don't abuse that kindness.

Submit to the law of the land, but don't violate the commands set forth in the Bible. Germans who followed Nazi lead were in grave error. The Bible is not commanding us to forget its guidelines in adoption of wrongful law.

Crumbs, what exactly do you find attractive about Christianity? I'd like to understand you better.

 

[Proselyte]

Great posts Proselyte & Gramaic. Keep up the good work.

Many thanks Sancti

 

[GenemZ]

I didn't say he was. I postulated that theory based on the fact that Paul's letters were not even written by him. To compare him to the Bill Gates of his time......well, that's as much speculation as my post.

"Paul had memorized the Law of God perfectly. Yet, he was now a sinner saved by grace in Christ. Homosexuality is condemned in the Law. God entrusted his Word to the Jews! Israel had no problem with homosexuality. It was Rome that was running wild. Paul was sent to the Gentiles. You do not see the others speaking about homosexuality, because they were sent to the Jews."

From the above then.....because they were sent to the Jews as there was no homosexuality during that time amongst the Jews - they just had no comment on it whatsover? Yeah, righto. That makes so much sense.

So homosexuality was localised to the 'Romans'???

If you wish to be an expert in what you make claims about? I think you should first learn about the world at the time of Jesus. With the exception of the Jews..God's Chosen people... the world walked in darkness. Homosexual behavior was just another item on the world's menu of choices.

Reading through some writings by rabbis of the past, they saw homosexuality as being a Gentile problem. That is why the Jews were so arrogantly perjudiced against the "Goys." They saw Gentiles as being low lifes.

Acts 10:28 niv
He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean.



Now you know why it was hard for the Jews to first accept the Gentiles into the Church. If it were not for the fact that the Church age offered God's power of grace to overcome the flesh? The Gentiles would have not been allowed to mix with the Jews. Up until then, they lived primarily by standards we today would easily call degenerate.

To compete against God? Hitler was Satan's man for raising up his so called chosen people. "The Arian race"........ Moses was God's man. Satan was trying to compete against God's system. Look what it got him.

No extra charge for the last one.....

In Christ, GeneZ

 

[GenemZ]

God loves you if your gay. But you will damned forever if you ever kissed or had sex with your partner???

God only loves gays who accepted Jesus as Savior. For God sees their flesh as having been crucified with Christ. God does not love the homosexual who rejects Christ. Yet, sinning cuts one off from doing God's will for one's life. Eternal rewards will be lost.

So, he (God) loves the person, and their homosexual tendencies.

God only loves the soul of the person that was in a life of homosexuality before he got saved. This person will not be homosexual in a resurrection body.

But the act of copulation makes him a sinner to be damned eternally as much as say someone like Adolf Hitler who instigated genocide on a religious group?

I do not know what legalistic church you attended at some time in your life. Or, you really do not know what is taught in many churches. But, if one sins after they are saved? They do not lose their salvation.

John 6:37-40 (New International Version)
"All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."
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If they continue to sin, they will lose in this lifetime their chances of finding the true happiness and tranquility of soul that God's grace would lead them to. And, they will lose out on their Eternal rewards. For, they did not want to know Christ better in time. Therefore, they will be denied access to certain special things with Christ in Eternity.

2 Timothy 2:12 (New American Standard Bible)
"If we endure, we will also reign with Him;
If we deny Him, He also will deny us."
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And yet a heterosexual christian who will continue to sin their entire life, will be fine because they are heterosexual???

Same thing. Frustration and unhappiness in this life, and a loss of Eternal rewards in Eternity.

But, likewise ... he, too, will be saved from Hell. IF HE BELIEVED IN CHRIST!

1 Corinthians 3:11-15 (New International Version)
"For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames."

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Loss of Eternal rewards, anyone?


Grace and ttt ruth, GeneZ

 

[GenemZ]

Would heterosexuals christians practising anal sex be damned as homosexuals?

Why are you asking?

You seem to be confusing morality, with the new life of spirituality that a Christian has been baptized into.

I can see why. Many Christians are preoccupied moralists, and not spiritual. Legalism vs.Grace.

John 4:23-24 (New International Version)
"Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."



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The problem with sin? Sin cuts the believer off from the spiritual life we are supposed to be living!

Before this unique spiritual life was given to believers (Church age) the OT saints were trained by the moralistic mandates of the Law, so they could categorize and recognize sin. Why? So when the spiritual life came? They could remain in fellowship by knowing what sin is. It was also given to train the thginking of Jews to show them that they all broke the Law at some point. That revealed they all (most importantly) needed a Savior, as well.

1 John 1:8-9 (New International Version)
"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."


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In the pagan world, other than a few major obvious sins? (stealing, murder) ... They were oblivious to what sin is. No one was condemned morally for attending a sexual orgy in those cultures. Matter of fact? It may have been seen as an act of worship.

Morality is for society today. Its for believer and unbeliever alike.

Virtue is only for the believer.

Virtue is spiritual power to be totally relaxed and to overcome, what will power forces for the moral unbeliever... and takes us beyond. Into light.

.........................................................................Grace and peace, GeneZ

 

[HelloToAll]

Great posts Proselyte & Gramaic. Keep up the good work.

Thank you, SanctiSpiritus!

 

[HunterRose]

God does love everyone. But, God does not love the sin.

People are not sins

 

[HunterRose]

If those rules are now irrelevent? Then having sex with your uncle is fine. And, having sex with your neighbor's horse is equally fine. Its interesting how only the homosexuality clause in that part of the law is no longer to count for today.

Is the rule about not wearing clothing made of mixed fabrics irrelevant?
What about the rules about eating shellfish, irrelevant? Or the rule about shaving…is that irrelevant?

Amazing how only rules that suit the lifestyle of Christians get justified away

And, this same God saw homosexual acts as loathsome and an abomination. The Hebrew word used to described the acts is to show how God sees it as one of lowest things a person can do.

Sexual sins of any kind are considered "abominations" to the Lord. See Leviticus 18: 18 - 30, paying particular attention to verses 27 - 30, which refer to "all these abominations" -- after various kinds of sexual activities apart from marriage have been mentioned. A similar list is repeated in Leviticus 20, concluding that God's people ought not to do these things "after the manner of the nations which I cast out before you." We find that the levitical laws also forbade remarriages of divorced couples, calling such an act an "abomination." Deuteronomy 24: 1 - 4.

Dishonest business practices are named as an "abomination" in Deuteronomy 25: 13 - 16, Proverbs 11: 1 and Proverbs 20: 10. It seems that scrupulously honest business practices are required of any professing to be the Lord's people. That includes “borrowing” office supplies, making personal phone calls, doing personal business on company time and *horrors* being anything less than faultlessly honest on income taxs. How many can say their work practices pass?

“These six things doth the LORD hate:
yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.”
Proverbs 6:16-19

Who can claim innocence from all these "abominations"? Are all the sure dispensers of judgments on gay people free from a "proud look" (are you feeling just a little superior to those loathsome gays?...well its an abomination) or presenting "false witness" about homosexuals? (Claiming that homosexuals already have equal rights is false witness. Claims that homosexuals molest children or even comparing gays and lesbians to child molesters is a lie. Claims that homosexuals are diseased are a lie. Claims that homosexuals have shorter life spans is another common lie.)

Another thread in this forum details how the Christian organization Focus on the Family has lied and misrepresented the research of social scientists. http://www.christianforums.com/t3101032-focus-on-the-family-seem-to-have-issues-interpreting-a-psychological-survey.html
Does that make James Dobson “loathsome”?

It seems then that pride and lies to further one's own agenda are every bit as hateful to a holy God as are sexual sins.

Prayer is added to the list of "abominations," if it comes from one who turns his ear from hearing the law in Proverbs 28:9. That becomes especially significant in view of the consideration that all of God's laws are summed up in the great principle of Love to God and to one's neighbors and that Christ Himself demonstrated that Law in His life. Are my prayers an "abomination"? Are yours?

And while we are on the topic of abominations it is worthwhile to note that Oppressive treatment of others is considered an "abomination" Proverbs 3: 31-32. and there is nothing more oppressive or hateful than using religion to justify one’s personal prejudices.

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There comes a point when others stop praying and throw up their hands to God. They let go, and leave God to put an end to it. AIDS comes to mind on this one. Yet, God was causing some to die who partook of the Communion with disrespect continuously. God shows no favoritism. What ever our area of weakness might be? If we continue to refuse God's grace entrance to make us strong? God is no respector of persons. Sin is sin.... no matter what the sin may be.

AIDS disproportionately affects Blacks….so what does this say about God’s opinion of people with dark skin?