Dad on Youtube

[Elendur]

Sadness, I'm not on that list, but I guess you don't know me all that well though.

I know you enough to say that I think that you're very respectful

Perhaps I should add that those I've found to be respectful on this forum, and atheist, are not limited to that list. Those are just a selection

 

[evoeth]

Since you made your video in a different state past, it no longer applies.

Rimshot. But why am I responding to this? It's in the past, just like the beginning of this sentence.

 

[evoeth]

Because of the events recorded. If for example all animals were on that ark, and were released, we need to get them all over the planet and evolved into many species real fast.

When you use claim (the flood happened, the earth is young, we see X species today) to interpret the details of the story that you are using to support the claim, you are engaging in circular reasoning.

Of course it's horse hockey that the laws of physics changed in the last 4k years. We can test if they have changed and people have.

 

[dad]

When you use claim (the flood happened, the earth is young, we see X species today) to interpret the details of the story that you are using to support the claim, you are engaging in circular reasoning.

Not if God is real. In that case I am using history and fact. Since you do not know, it is you that would be going round and round in models based on assuming what you don't know.

Of course it's horse hockey that the laws of physics changed in the last 4k years. We can test if they have changed and people have.

[/QUOTE] Not true. No one tested anything of the kind. They are content with assuming. Any tests start there! Comparing this state to this state...and then trying to claim there was no other state.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Not if God is real. In that case I am using history and fact. Since you do not know, it is you that would be going round and round in models based on assuming what you don't know.

Not true. No one tested anything of the kind. They are content with assuming. Any tests start there! Comparing this state to this state...and then trying to claim there was no other state.[/QUOTE]

Even if a deity does exist, it doesn't make the bible true. It could be Vishnu, or Kthulu, or some deity without a name. It could be more than one. Even if a deity exists, it doesn't mean it created anything, much less had any involvement in any religious or nonreligious text.

 

[Strathos]

Yes, locally, for example for the person. When they change in the future it is for all.

That's not what you said before.

 

[dad]

Even if a deity does exist, it doesn't make the bible true.

Yes it does. Not a deity, but THE Almighty Living God and creator who sent His only Son.

It could be Vishnu, or Kthulu, or some deity without a name.

Not the God of the bible. He is well defined and known, and always has been. All other gods are demons. There is no other way or truth or salvation.

 

[dad]

That's not what you said before.

Simple misunderstanding on your part. Miracles are done in this state and are not a universal nature change.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes it does. Not a deity, but THE Almighty Living God and creator who sent His only Son.


Not the God of the bible. He is well defined and known, and always has been. All other gods are demons. There is no other way or truth or salvation.

Prove that no other deities could exist, for even the bible admits other deities exist, especially in the Old Testament.

 

[dad]

Prove that no other deities could exist,

They could, and do, they are called demons. Many worship them.

for even the bible admits other deities exist, especially in the Old Testament.

Right. So many spirits coming out the wood work and science not only cannot see one, but they cannot show any reason they do not exist! Useless twaddle is all one could offer for their in the dark perspective and claims.

 

[PsychoSarah]

They could, and do, they are called demons. Many worship them.

Right. So many spirits coming out the wood work and science not only cannot see one, but they cannot show any reason they do not exist! Useless twaddle is all one could offer for their in the dark perspective and claims.

You can't prove that the Christian god isn't one of these evil spirits, and another god is the true good god.

 

[dad]

You can't prove that the Christian god isn't one of these evil spirits, and another god is the true good god.

Yes I can Jesus did good good good good and more good. He is God, so there we have it!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes I can Jesus did good good good good and more good. He is God, so there we have it!

By the words of that god, which could be lying.

 

[dad]

By the words of that god, which could be lying.

Not according to witnesses and the results of men having His Spirit in them ever since!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Not according to witnesses and the results of men having His Spirit in them ever since!

So an evil spirit couldn't manipulate people into believing a lie?

 

[Strathos]

Simple misunderstanding on your part. Miracles are done in this state and are not a universal nature change.

That just contradicted what you said in your last post.

 

[Delphiki]

Not according to witnesses and the results of men having His Spirit in them ever since!

So says a book, that could potentially be written by liars influenced by a lying entity.

 

[bhsmte]

That just contradicted what you said in your last post.

Won't be the last time this happens, it is quite common with Dad.

That is what happens when you make stuff up as you go along and you have zero evidence to back up what you claim. Dad's efforts here, clearly have no impact on convincing anyone he is right, but they do play a crucial role in trying to convince himself.

 

[anyathesword]

You can't prove that the Christian god isn't one of these evil spirits, and another god is the true good god.

It's important to always capitalize the G in God if you are talking about the Christian God or the true God. All other gods are lowercase.

There is no Christian god, they are all evil.

 

[anyathesword]

Won't be the last time this happens, it is quite common with Dad.

That is what happens when you make stuff up as you go along and you have zero evidence to back up what you claim. Dad's efforts here, clearly have no impact on convincing anyone he is right, but they do play a crucial role in trying to convince himself.

Personal testimony just like an eyewitness testimony can be used as evidence.

Aren't fossils used as evidence for evolution? Are they contaminated, lost, destroyed or made to produce conclusions based on assumptions?

Same with personal testimonies.