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dad said:

You think that redeems the latest barrage of posts?

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No, nothing will redeem your nonsense.

dad said:

False. The documents of such an abject humiliation may have been purged.

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Egypt's enemies and rivals would have no reason to do that. Quite the opposite actually.

Also, documents are just one source. There's plenty of other pieces of evidence we would expect to find which could NOT be "purged" since they would be out of their control.

But none of those things exist either.

Because the entire story is nonsense.

dad said:

Nope. It may predate the official oldest copy of the scipture we have. That means little. For example, James in the NT quotes Enoch, who was contemporary with Adam. We win. Our records are also true, and proven to be from God a million ways. We have the bestest, oldest, funest, neatest and coolest records of them all!

The pagan plagerizers were after the fact.

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You can believe that if you want. But you're just gonna miss the fact that the epic of gilgamesh is older then judaism.

dad said:

They do not speak in any way for believers! Whoever they are they are not believers in God and His word, whatever comes out of their mouth.

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Beliefs do not matter. Evidence matters.

anyathesword said:

Ouch. The Bible is more complicated than that!! It was written over a 1000 year period by over 40 different authors!!

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This only makes it more prone to error imo.

Authors that did not even live in the same time period! There is so much future telling in the Bible, it's more than in any other religious book!

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You haven't read many other religious books, have you?

Events that came to pass and other events that are still to come!

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No different then other religious books then ha....

My point remains:
If we are going to use the way these books are compiled and written as a measure of how believable they are, then the quran wins hands down... no competition at all.



Off course, needless to say, I consider every single one of these books to be nonsense.

anyathesword said:

Do you believe other parts of the Bible? What do you agree with that is in the Bible?

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"Treat others like you wish to be treated."

Although I didn't need the bible to know that.

anyathesword said:

I'm using Bible verses and my memory to myself to summerize and give to you. If I was using Bible verses I would list the book, chapter and verse and the whole verse. I don't, now do I?

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The bible is the source of the information you are spewing on this forum. In my book, that's using bible verses. You don't need to quote it word for word with chapter and verse number for it be "using bible verses".

Don't act as if you aren't comprehending what I'm saying. There's nothing to gain from that semantic argument.

I'd like you to go to a Jewish person and ask where they came from.

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Why?

You really think they invented their whole history, does that sound logical?

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Yes.

Or do you really believe that Romulus and Remus were twin sons of the god Mars who were raised by the wolf Lupa Capitolina and that they founded Rome on the 21st of april in the year 753 BC?

Clearly, humans are capable of inventing myths and legends to explain where they come from.

Why should Jews be any different?

And now they celebrate the Passover since many hundreds of years?

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Which is no different then Romans celebrating the birth of Romulus and Remus.

Or me celebrating the winter solstice... Ow, sorry, I mean christmass.

And they all flock to Isreal? These are the chosen people of God, you know. You would offend them greatly I think, if you said that.

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The truth hurts sometimes.
If you would have gone to ancient Rome and told them that Romulus and Remus are just a myth, they'ld crucify you.

Subduction Zone said:

You are conflating the Bible with God again. No one said that God was wrong. We are simply pointing out the obvious that the Bible has hundreds of errors in it.

One more time, the Bible is not God.

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Yes it is. It is God in WRITTEN form!

The Bible has no errors in it.

Actually why don't you make a list of all the errors and contradictions in the Bible. I also would like you to consider the facts that many thousands of people, scholars, proffessors, and highly qualified proffessionals have gone through this Book several times to only say it has no error. People that are way smarter than you are or anyone in this forum. Whatever error you point out has probably allready been solved by the Bible itself.

Give me hundreds of errors. Go.

biggles53 said:

Oh....and I almost missed this little gem...



Please indicate which diseases are caused by demons, because, as a good little Christian, you should be demanding an exorcism for the poor sufferers....



Again, as a good Christian, why are you not demanding that these witches be hunted down and killed...? In fact, if you were a true follower of your faith, why aren't you seeking to kill them yourself...!?

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I'll help you out here:
A boy had epilepsy. Jesus cast out the demon and he was healed instantly.
A man was blind and mute. Jesus cast out the demon and he was healed and could see and talk.
Same with another boy.
Some women such as Mary Magdalene were healed from infirmities.
Depression
Mental Illness
Cancer

That's not to say ALL things ALL the time are caused by demons. It's a very complicated subject.

In fact, the whole point of Jesus's ministry was to HEAL the sick and CAST out demons. They are INTERELATED.

anyathesword said:

The Bible has no errors in it.

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2 different and contradictory creation accounts.

The two contradictory creation accounts.

Only 1 example is enough to show that it's not a "perfect" book.

anyathesword said:

I'll help you out here:
A boy had epilepsy. Jesus cast out the demon and he was healed instantly.
A man was blind and mute. Jesus cast out the demon and he was healed and could see and talk.
Same with another boy.
Some women such as Mary Magdalene were healed from infirmities.
Depression
Mental Illness
Cancer

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You are again assuming that we will just simply accept what your bible says. How many times must it be repeated that the bible is only relevant to people who actually already believe the bible in religious fashion?

To us, it's just a book filled with myths. We are not impressed by what it says and we certainly won't be convinced by what it says based only on what it says.

Get it into your head please. WE ARE NOT IMPRESSED. We do NOT believe what it says. We view the bible like you view the quran, the bagavad Ghita, the illiad, etc etc etc. As far as we are concerned, the relevancy of bible stories to reality is exactly the same as the relevancy of Harry Potter and Lord of the Ring books.

How many times must it be repeated???

That's not to say ALL things ALL the time are caused by demons.

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Right... it's only caused by a "demon" if nobody can actually verify the claim that it was caused by a "demon". It seems that it's only ever caused by a "demon" if the example is anecdotal.

It's a very complicated subject.

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It's not actually. It's rather simple. Whenever it can't be verified, then you're there waving your bible.

In fact, the whole point of Jesus's ministry was to HEAL the sick and CAST out demons. They are INTERELATED.

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Yes, and that only impresses those who actually believe the bible.

See, this is exactly one of the most important reasons why I am an atheist...

If your book of myths was actually a book of truth instead of myths, it could be shown to be the case, without using the book.

The very fact that 100% reliance on the contents of the book is required to believe in it, with no extra-biblical evidence supporting anything in there, is evidence that it's nonsense.

You agree to this, because you are not a muslim... you are not a hindu...
For some reason, you make an exception for your particular religion of choice. And if I would ask for that reason, I'm 110% positive that I could find muslims and hindu's who will give me the exact same reason, only they'll use it for their religion of choice.

Wake up and smell the irrationality.

anyathesword said:

Yes it is. It is God in WRITTEN form!

The Bible has no errors in it.

Actually why don't you make a list of all the errors and contradictions in the Bible. I also would like you to consider the facts that many thousands of people, scholars, proffessors, and highly qualified proffessionals have gone through this Book several times to only say it has no error. People that are way smarter than you are or anyone in this forum. Whatever error you point out has probably allready been solved by the Bible itself.

Give me hundreds of errors. Go.

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BibViz Project - Bible Contradictions, Misogyny, Violence, Inaccuracies interactively visualized

Done.

Subduction Zone said:

BibViz Project - Bible Contradictions, Misogyny, Violence, Inaccuracies interactively visualized

Done.

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Here's a list of 479 contradictions:

SAB Contradictions

And here's a list of over 2200 absurdities:

SAB, Absurdities

RealityCheck said:

Here's a list of 479 contradictions:

SAB Contradictions

And here's a list of over 2200 absurdities:

SAB, Absurdities

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That's good stuff. The absurdities list made me chuckle every few lines.

anyathesword said:

I'll help you out here:
A boy had epilepsy. Jesus cast out the demon and he was healed instantly.
A man was blind and mute. Jesus cast out the demon and he was healed and could see and talk.
Same with another boy.
Some women such as Mary Magdalene were healed from infirmities.
Depression
Mental Illness
Cancer

That's not to say ALL things ALL the time are caused by demons. It's a very complicated subject.

In fact, the whole point of Jesus's ministry was to HEAL the sick and CAST out demons. They are INTERELATED.

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There are no demons....they do not exist.

And all you have done here is what you always do.......make baseless claims..! You have not a shred of evidence to support what you or the Bible says. They are no more than the kind of make-believe stories that young children tell one another...!

There are miracle cures claimed by EVERY religion and attributed to EVERY holy man that has ever existed.........there is NO difference between any of them...!

DogmaHunter said:

2 different and contradictory creation accounts.

The two contradictory creation accounts.

Only 1 example is enough to show that it's not a "perfect" book.

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You aren't serious are you??!! Gees.

Dude!! PLEASE. You just totally embarrassed yourself.

Read the actual words from a Bible, not the internet!!!

I found so many mistakes and bits left out from what you posted, it makes me sad! The website is totally lying to you.

Here is what your link says:

Genesis 1:25-27 (Humans were created after the other animals.)
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image.

Genesis 1:27 (The first man and woman were created simultaneously.) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

and:

Genesis 2:18-19 (Humans were created before the other animals.)
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Genesis 2:18-22 (The man was created first, then the animals, then the woman from the man's rib.)
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them.... And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man

1. Chapter one is a summery of the 7 days of creation.
2. Chapter two is a detailed account of how humans were created.
3. Chapter 1 never says Adam and Eve were created simultaneously. It says that on this day (6), God created man (human).
4. Chapter 2 explains in detail how He did it...Adam from the ground and Eve from his rib.
5. In your link, chapter 2 verse 19 leaves out some pretty obvious and important words! 19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals.
6. Animals in both chapters were made BEFORE humans, there is no contradiction whatsoever. It says clearly GOD HAD formed, meaning past tense. Your link leaves this word out.
7. There is no contradiction here, I'm sorry. Your source is trying to decieve you. Ouch

dad said:

Could be. However I don't expect that a per click ratio would have meaning at this point. My signature is linked to the video at the moment, so those who click on it may not be there to watch.

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Possibly. You have access to more detailed metrics about your video than I do and should be able to see how many viewers watched the full video.

I'm just providing feedback on how you can acquire and retain more viewers. The 2 main things you can do to improve your viewership are:

• Have a more energetic delivery of your content. You're talking about something you're passionate about - let that passion show in your delivery of the content. Your delivery in the video is a bit dispassionate and that attitude will turn viewers off from the video.
• Keep it concise - 3-5 minutes is a good length for a lecture. This may mean re-structuring your content into multiple tightly focused videos on different topics, but that's a good thing.

biggles53 said:

There are no demons....they do not exist.

And all you have done here is what you always do.......make baseless claims..! You have not a shred of evidence to support what you or the Bible says. They are no more than the kind of make-believe stories that young children tell one another...!

There are miracle cures claimed by EVERY religion and attributed to EVERY holy man that has ever existed.........there is NO difference between any of them...!

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Prove to me that demons don't exist.

anyathesword said:

Prove to me that demons don't exist.

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Actually it is up to you to prove that they do exist.

My friend Bert has a magic Teapot that is on the far side of the Moon.

Prove it does not exist:

Russell's teapot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look, it even has its own Wiki article.