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Creationists, what do the worlds universities know that creationists don't?

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Why does EVERY university in every country IN THE WORLD teach evolution as a fact? what do they know that the people who are teaching you creationism don't?

Creationists please remember this, if the people teaching you are creationists they only know as much about science and evolution as you do which is nothing, I say that with confidence because I know that if you or they knew ANYTHING about evolution you would not argue against it, the only way anyone would know about evolution and still argue against it would be if they had been indoctrinated in creationism before they were educated.
 

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They know that the Bible is not a science textbook. People should stop trying to use it as such.
The creation of man is a supernatural event, an effect of a supernatural cause in its most definitive form and as such overlaps. Also, documents detailing the bombing of pearl harbor are not scientific books yet no one would surmise that the ruling classes that be for now should override planes being flown by Japanese, with planes having originating through sea water because minerals have been found within.
 
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Why does EVERY university in every country IN THE WORLD teach evolution as a fact? what do they know that the people who are teaching you creationism don't?
You are forgetting about the social, economic and political pressures placed on those within scientific institution to uphold Darwinian evolution.

Why do so many scientists endorse Evolution? - ChristianAnswers.Net

Evolutionist Richard Lewontin in The New York Review, January, 1997, page 31:
We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of the failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so-stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
 
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Not ALL universities teach evolution...There are faith based unis out there that teach creation...which form varies, depending on the denomination/faith it is affiliated with.
Of course there are religious universities out there teaching all kinds of rubbish, I could even set up the UFSM that tells students the FSM is the one true God, it might have university in the title but it would be anything but a university.
I am talking about UNIVERSITIES not myth schools and diploma mills.

I once heard a theology degree likened to a degree in 'Books by Charles Dickens'.
 
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Not ALL universities teach evolution...There are faith based unis out there that teach creation...which form varies, depending on the denomination/faith it is affiliated with.

Yes, and they are generally crap institutions producing mediocre graduates with uncompetetive degrees.
 
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You are forgetting about the social, economic and political pressures placed on those within scientific institution to uphold Darwinian evolution.

Why do so many scientists endorse Evolution? - ChristianAnswers.Net
What would you expect a creationists web site to say? Evolution is true?

Creationist web sites [and some pastors] tell you lies for good reasons, they know you will believe whatever they tell you because you want to believe what they tell you is true, they know you would never check to see if they are telling you lies because you want to believe they are not telling you lies,
they also know that you will not believe anyone who tries to tell you that they are lying to you because you don't want to believe they are lying to you,
in other words they have you by the short and curlies.

These web sites preach to people like you who want to believe that there's a God who made everything, who is also going to look after you and give you everlasting life when you die, pay me money and I will set up a web site that will tell you anything you want to hear and lie to you and promise you everything until the day you die.

Science is the exact opposite to the above, if I came up with a new theory there would be thousands out there just waiting to stamp on that theory and prove it wrong, if they can't prove it wrong they would accept [albeit reluctantly] that it might just be a good theory.
 
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The creation of man is a supernatural event, an effect of a supernatural cause in its most definitive form and as such overlaps.

That is an extraordinary claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
 
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Why does EVERY university in every country IN THE WORLD teach evolution as a fact? what do they know that the people who are teaching you creationism don't?
I think the main thing they know is what evolution actually is. They have a detailed understanding of the way it operates. In my experience the vast majority of creationists don't possess this knowledge. The evolution that they form in their mind is a strawman that is laughable and of course easily rejected.
 
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I've already shown that the property of intelligence is capable of assembling man.
We don't really need reminding of the possibilities. What would be nice is some evidence that an intelligence did assemble man.
 
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We don't really need reminding of the possibilities. What would be nice is some evidence that an intelligence did assemble man.

Bring me video evidence that an intelligence did assemble the Great Pyramid. Next outline why you don't believe that the Great Pyramid was intelligently designed due to a lack of video evidence. Then outline why special conditions due to your bias need to be entertained.
 
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Do you understand what I'm asking of you? I'm not asking about Pyramids, my opinions and bias, videos, or anything else. I'm asking for evidence for your position on the creation of man by an intelligence.
Creationists answer questions [or think they answer questions] by asking a question, they don't have answers so they think if they ask enough questions they win, either that or they just don't bother to answer the question or even think about the question, it's all about getting things right in their heads, they do whatever works so they can move on, most of them are gifted with bad memories, I suppose that's why they're creationists in the first place, that and slow thinking, if the information is coming into their brains quicker than they can process it they find themselves believing things before they have thought about them properly, how else can we explain why they believe such garbage?
 
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Do you understand what I'm asking of you? I'm not asking about Pyramids, my opinions and bias, videos, or anything else. I'm asking for evidence for your position on the creation of man by an intelligence.

I've already shown that the property of intelligence is capable of assembling man.

What you are unwittedly asking for is data which smothers any room for faith not realizing that you have faith that the Great Pyramid is intelligently designed.
 
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