Creationists are told the flood is true and actually happened,

[Laetetia]

Wasn't all that just a highly cynical version of church history? I prefer to suspect the best of people, they all seemed fairly genuine.

 

[godsmission]

Wasn't all that just a highly cynical version of church history? I prefer to suspect the best of people, they all seemed fairly genuine.

That's it, you keep your head in the clouds and think only pretty thoughts about butterflies and lambs.

 

[catzrfluffy]

Clearly it is not
Explain how you could possibly see the current oceans as evidence for a flood, because I see the exact opposite. I see a ton of water, but not nearly enough to cover the worlds mountains. That is a ridiculous amount of water, an amount that we do not find in our oceans today.

But that's forgetting there is water underneath the earth too.
3-D model shows big body of water in Earth's mantle
Earth could hold more water
Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas
and also geography might have been different, ie. the mountains not being as high.

 

[Cabal]

Oh dear, this sounds dangerously close to hydroplate theory....

 

[catzrfluffy]

But there is water underneath the earth

 

[Cabal]

But there is water underneath the earth

Ok, great. Enough to flood the earth to the same level? I suspect not.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ok, great. Enough to flood the earth to the same level? I suspect not.

If you take a bicycle inner tube...

... and fill it with water, then take a globe ...

... and put it in the center of the inner tube ...

... you should get a good picture of how the Flood went down.

 

[Cabal]

If you take a bicycle inner tube...

... and fill it with water, then take a globe ...

... and put it in the center of the inner tube ...

... you should get a good picture of how the Flood went down.

That has the water OUTSIDE the globe. I.e. not hydroplate theory.

Please don't stomp off like last time because I poked holes in your analogy like last time.

 

[Gracchus]

If you take a bicycle inner tube...

... and fill it with water, then take a globe ...

... and put it in the center of the inner tube ...

... you should get a good picture of how the Flood went down.

That is not a picture. That is two separate and unrelated pictures.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is not a picture. That is two separate and unrelated pictures.

That's why they came with instructions ---

 

[godsmission]

But there is water underneath the earth

OK, so you are going to raise this water to the surface, what is stopping it all running back underneath again? I guess God could performing another miracle? it seems every time you turn around you need another miracle from your God, why don't you just admit that the flood didn't happen? it would save you and your God a whole lot of trouble.

 

[AV1611VET]

OK, so you are going to raise this water to the surface, what is stopping it all running back underneath again?

Settlement?

 

[Jazmyn]

Because it was super-heated? Being inside the mantle of the earth, then maybe magma followed it?

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Because it was super-heated? Being inside the mantle of the earth, then maybe magma followed it?

And maybe the overlard Xenu.... meh, nvermnd.

 

[AV1611VET]

If they can't get past Genesis 1, Jazmyn, their chances of understanding it are like me understanding McGraw-Hill 1.

 

[MoonLancer]

I admit Genesis 1 is hard to swallow for the intellectually honest

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

If they can't get past Genesis 1, Jazmyn, their chances of understanding it are like me understanding McGraw-Hill 1.

If you can't get past a fundamenal understanding of ToE, then understanding Genesis 1 literally might make sense.

 

[Wedjat]

Because it was super-heated? Being inside the mantle of the earth, then maybe magma followed it?

Then how would it go back?

 

[Loudmouth]

You do understand. You just try to ignore the HUGE evidence right in front of your eyes. I say it again: The ocean of the earth is an evidence that the Global Flood is true.

Oh yeah? I have a much more believable scenario for you.

Did you know that your house flooded when you were at the store last? Sure enough. Your entire house flooded and all the water flowed out and dried without leaving a trace. Need proof? Go in your bathroom. Look for a round porcelain container. Look in it. That water in that round porcelain container is proof that your house was flooded. Pretty amazing, huh?

 

[laconicstudent]

Based off of current understandings of how ecosystems work.

I recently visited some fjords. When it rains, they get so much fresh water coming down waterfalls that an entire layer of freshwater settles on top of the saltwater. No algae can grow on the banks because it is saltwater algae, which is killed by the fresh water.
Similarly, very few saltwater fish could survive in freshwater, and vice versa.

High sediment levels in water are also known to choke and kill fish.
A massive flood encompassing the entire earth in a period of 40 days and nights would stir up considerable sediment.

It would make the oceans too dilute to support saltwater life, and saltwater overflowing into rivers and lakes from the expanding ocean would make them too salty to support freshwater life.

And again, the sediment in the water would choke out anything that survived that.

I notice both me and Wedjat have made this same point, and it has yet to be addressed. So allow me to reiterate:

A global flood would devastate the pH, salinity, temperature and cleanliness of the ocean waters that are required for homeostasis in every aquatic lifeform. As the continents were entirely submerged, the topsoil would BE WASHED AWAY. This topsoil would further destroy the aquatic ecosystem.

The fact that aquatic life exists today is itself proof that a global flood didn't happen.