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EternalDragon
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No, John, Paul, Luke, Matthew, Mark and the many, many other believers in Israel were not wrong. You are right about that. The ones that got it wrong were the ones that followed tradition and thought more of themselves, rather than actually studied God's word.
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EternalDragon
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Some got it wrong, some got it right. The ones that got it wrong seemed more like the political part of Jewish society. Using the scriptures more than studying them. The Sadducees and the Pharisees. Am I wrong?
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EternalDragon
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No, they agree with scripture. I wasn't even born yet when those people were alive.
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Oh, well, I was not even sure that you were talking about Jewish groups. I thought so but was not sure.
That being said, I do not know what kind of distinction you make when you say "using more than studying" and being a "political part." The Pharisees, Saducees, Essenes, etc., all had various interpretations they made of the received Old Testament text. Also, they all were involved in politics in one way or another.
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EternalDragon
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You will find 44 references the messiah in Genesis, Exodus, Isaiah, Numbers, Micah, 2 Samuel, Daniel, Psalms, Hosea, Deut., Malachi, and Zecheria. As well as references below from the NT writers who knew of those prophesies and witnessed their fulfillment.
Acts 13:23
Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
Acts 13:32
And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,
Acts 26:6
And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God, unto our fathers:
Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.
Romans 1:2
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 15:8
Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
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Yes, and scientific methodists would agree with you.
Have you seen my Cliffs Notes on the Civil War?
1. The South supported slavery.
2. The North was against slavery.
3. God broke the tie.
Evidently scientists want Southern Baptists to reignite the issue?
Good help is hard to find in a lab these days, isn't it?
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Anyone can use the bible and pull out verses and make them say anything they want. If you take the whole book and the verse in context, then you will see the truth.
That's why we have so many denominations. They have taken verses out of context and deceived masses of people into believing their unbiblical doctrine. Most people do not read the bible cover to cover every year...they expect the pastor to tell them all the info (unbiblical)...that is why we have so much deception going on.
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What reeks is translations such as this ...
Romans 1:1 [NASB] Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God,
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