Creationism and evolution.

[bhsmte]

Origin of Pluto?

What about it?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Why not just teach biology sans evolution or creation(ism) and let the students decide for themselves which is more likely? "Natural selection" is just as mysterious as God's spiritual creative force. Biology was successfully taught long before the ToE arrived on the scene.

 

[Ben West]

Because creationism is sacred.

AND the False Theory of Evolution is the biggest Lie ever dreamed up by people who have REJECTED God's Holy Word as True. Evolution, in the simple sense, is nothing more than changes within His (Jesus) kinds and Their (Trinity) kinds. Today's scientists had fallen into God's Snare which He set with the Flood.

As they are falsely teaching our little children their fantasies, they are caught in the Trap which exposes their False Teaching that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. They have stumbled over the Fact that Humans were made long Before any other creature, on another world, which was totally destroyed in the Flood.

Scripture calls them the Scoffers of the last days as they become "willingly ignorant" that Adam's world was clean dissolved in the flood and our Cosmos will be burned. ll Peter 3:3-7 God Bless you

 

[juvenissun]

What about it?

Its origin.

 

[Jan Volkes]

Just demonstrate it is scientific and toss it in with science class.

Too much to ask?

Still an attack.

This really made me laugh out load. priceless.

 

[Jan Volkes]

Attack? Asking you to demonstrate creationism is science?

Yes. It is used to BAN Creationism. The motivation can not be more clear.

This one is just as good it's hilarious, it's twisted thinking at it's best.

 

[Jan Volkes]

Why not just teach biology sans evolution or creation(ism) and let the students decide for themselves which is more likely? "Natural selection" is just as mysterious as God's spiritual creative force. Biology was successfully taught long before the ToE arrived on the scene.

While your at it don't forget Islam's version of the creation.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

While your at it don't forget Islam's version of the creation.

That could be taken up in a Comparative Religion course.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Actually believers don't need to support creation(ism) with scientific evidence. It is enough to expose the impossibility of evolution happening, leaving the only alternative....special creation.

I love how you managed to use a false dichotomy, an argument of incredulity and ignorance, and shifting the burden of proof... all in one statement!

You earn 4 combo points.
*Achievement Unlocked*

 

[juvenissun]

While your at it don't forget Islam's version of the creation.

There is no Islamic version of creation. They made an incomplete copy of the Genesis 1 and 2, and it becomes very ugly.

 

[DogmaHunter]

It has many of them - they are called science books. Even if mostly you ignore them 95% of the time. Do we need to discuss finches that all interbreed and the scientific definition of species?

Evidence?

Apparently you can remain Christian and accept evolution too, just ask the Pope. So your second claim means what exactly?

You aren't aware of christians who claim that you can't be a "true" christian and accept evolution?

It teaches them from the first concept that we are animals

We ARE animals, regardless if evolution is true or not.
We're not plants, are we?

- and hence crime rate, single parents, divorces, has risen out of proportion to population increase from the year after it was implemented. It tries to recruit every person that goes to school. So your argument for recruitment means what exactly?

Please post a single study that supports this wild claim.

The Bible doesn't threaten you with hell either. That's simply another mistranslation of the original Hebrew.

So, would you say that an atheist can go to heaven?
Or do you belong to some denomination that doesn't believe hell exists?

No, you just threaten to take away their career prospects and tenureship instead if they openly profess faith in something besides evolution.

Not really.
When people are incompetent, they get fired.
When a doctor doesn't believe in germ theory, he gets fired. For good reason, wouldn't you agree?

It caused an entire nation to believe they were racially superior to every other race - and gave them the right to wipe out all those inferior races.

I'm pretty sure that that was a case of extreme nationalism coupled with some good ol' anti-semitism, facilitated by 2 millenia of christian prosecution and demonization of jews.

Not sure what you think the connection with biology is.

Isn't it survival of the fittest? Doesn't evolution teach that I could be better than you, more evolved? That perhaps you are inferior to me?

No, it does not.
Perhaps you should inform yourself.

I mean, it all depends on that random mutation does it not? Doesn't it teach the weak and infirm or diseased should be eliminated so they do not pollute the bloodline, just as the animals would do?

No.

Evolution theory is not prescriptive. It's explanatory about what goes on in reality.
It doesn't say what "should" happen. That's like saying that germ theory means that humans "should get sick".

That's complete nonsense.

Oh no, then it's ok to make moral judgements correct? But just where you believe it should be applied and nowhere else, right?

Applying it to strawman is kind of silly.

 

[bhsmte]

Its origin.

Keep going and explain, what about the specific origin of Pluto is important to science, from the creationist perspective.

Lets see if you can tie this together, or are willing to.

 

[bhsmte]

There is no Islamic version of creation. They made an incomplete copy of the Genesis 1 and 2, and it becomes very ugly.

Bumping this for you, you seemed to have missed this post:

Since when is creationism banned?

You are allowed to believe in creationism, correct?
You are allowed to teach your kids creationism, correct?
You church is allowed to teach creationism, correct?
No one stops Kenny Ham from preaching creationism, correct?

So, show me how creationism is banned.

 

[juvenissun]

Keep going and explain, what about the specific origin of Pluto is important to science, from the creationist perspective.

Lets see if you can tie this together, or are willing to.

None of the existed models can explain features observed on the Pluto.
So, the implication by Creationism is NOT ANY WORSE, but could be much better.

 

[bhsmte]

None of the existed models can explain features observed on the Pluto.
So, the implication by Creationism is NOT ANY WORSE, but could be much better.

And this is helpful to science how exactly?

 

[juvenissun]

Bumping this for you, you seemed to have missed this post:

Since when is creationism banned?

You are allowed to believe in creationism, correct?
You are allowed to teach your kids creationism, correct?
You church is allowed to teach creationism, correct?
No one stops Kenny Ham from preaching creationism, correct?

So, show me how creationism is banned.

It is not banned YET.
But if there is no resistance, then it WILL happen.

 

[bhsmte]

It is not banned YET.
But if there is no resistance, then it WILL happen.

I'm confused. Didn't you recently state that creationism was banned?

 

[juvenissun]

And this is helpful to science how exactly?

Good question. You are improving.
It would help those who stuck on the nebula hypothesis to abandon the idea.

 

[juvenissun]

I'm confused. Didn't you recently state that creationism was banned?

No. I did not say that.
I said people WANT to ban it.

 

[bhsmte]

Good question. You are improving.
It would help those who stuck on the nebula hypothesis to abandon the idea.

Show me then how scientists who study the planets, use creationism philosophies in their work.