Creation: Six Days or not?

[NarrowPathPilgrim]

Because they're days, not periods. God says days with and evening and a morning and that's good enough for me. If each day was long eons instead of a real day how did the vegetation created in the third long eon survive until the sun was created in the fourth long eon? I doesn't even make sense that God would create something then wait millions of years to create the next thing and so on and so forth. Why can't people just believe what God says?

Amen!

Exodus 20:9-11
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Is this passage talking of huge periods of time too??? Does that mean I get millions of years of work then millions of years of rest lol, that reasoning just doesn't make sense

 

[Dragons87]

I still don't see how we are able believe that Jesus resurrected from death, but somehow, when challenged slightly be errornous science (remember, science today is error tomorrow), we assume that God is unable to create the cosmos in six days.

Science is everchanging - within God's never-changingness.

If Genesis isn't literal, can somebody please provide me with a list of which Biblical accounts are literal and which are not?

 

[BarbB]

The Bible is made up of pattern upon pattern. The 6 days of creation are repeated in the 6 ages of human activity thus far. We should be entering the 7th day of rest any moment now. Too bad the Jewish calendar got so messed up or we would have a better idea of when.

 

[Melethiel]

The poll is poorly worded, therefore I cannot answer.

 

[KEPLER]

Nothing can make evolution true.

I'm catching up (had to eat dinner) so mabe someone has already pointed this out, but....Lynn, who here has said anything about evolution?

No one that I have seen....

K

 

[KEPLER]

1. (as a geocentrist I would say "when the sun is on the other side of us", but only relative positions make a difference so it doesn't matter.).

Wow.

 

[Melethiel]

Wow.

Ditto. That kind of messes up quite a bit of astrophysics...

 

[KEPLER]

I still don't see how we are able believe that Jesus resurrected from death, but somehow, when challenged slightly be errornous science (remember, science today is error tomorrow), we assume that God is unable to create the cosmos in six days.

Science is everchanging - within God's never-changingness.

If Genesis isn't literal, can somebody please provide me with a list of which Biblical accounts are literal and which are not?

D87,

Erm...some of us come to these conclusions by reading what the text actually says, and not reading our presuppositions into it.

And for the record, I would point out that a few people here have made a very gross assumption: Just because one does not hold to a "6 literal 24 hour period" interpretation of the creation account does not therefore mean that they must believe in evolution. What a supremely laughable assumption...

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Kepler

 

[KEPLER]

Ditto. That kind of messes up quite a bit of astrophysics...

One wonders how NASA got the Rover to MARS, since all the calculations would have been wrong if we lived in a geocentric solar system...

Oh, wait, NASA didn't get a Rover to MARS, it was all staged! It's all a conspiracy!

TIN-FOIL HATS!!!! GET YOUR TIN-FOIL HATS HERE!!!!

Where is the "Moonbat" smiley when you need one?

EDIT: Stop the Press! I found one!

K

(clock ticks while Kepler waits to get reprimanded for this post...tick....tick...tick)

 

[Gwenyfur]

God said 6 days...3 different times in the Bible that I can think of....

Good enough for me to believe...

 

[NarrowPathPilgrim]

Wow.

Yeah, I should probably start a seperate thread to discuss this topic...I think I'll do that soon

 

[KEPLER]

Yeah, I should probably start a seperate thread to discuss this topic...I think I'll do that soon

Here is a preview of my reply:

[c]Ta[sup]2[/sup]/Tb[sup]2[/sup] = Ra[sup]3[/sup]/Rb[sup]3[/sup][/c]

And....geocentrism is destroyed.

QED. Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.

Kepler

 

[KEPLER]

could you explain your reasoning. I know there was no sun until the 3rd day and time is measured involving the sun etc etc, but just bc the method of measurement wasnt there doesnt mean the time wasnt there.

But then, as i was looking in Genesis to formulate my response, I noticed in 1:14 it says that God created the "lights" to divide the day from the night, and to be signs for seasons, days, and years. But then again, there can be a day without a sign of a day. Taking away a sign for an off-ramp doesnt remove the off-ramp.

I should say, although I dont understand WHY God would use periods, it wouldnt be that big a deal. The only thing Id have to figure out is when it says God created in 6 adn rested on teh 7th in order to make holy the Sabbath. What really irks me is when hte idea that the days are not literal somehow means evolution is true. that, i think, is absurd.

Right it says "lights" the lesser to rule the night, and the greater to rule the day. Common sense says that these are the moon and the sun.

Problem is, the moon is not a "light", per se, it is a reflector...hmmm, perhaps God simply used language that the folks could understand?

And yes, no sun or moon until the 4th day. And yet there was "evening and morning". We mere mortals define "eveing and morning" by the rising and setting of the sun...except there was no sun for the frist three days...so...whatever "evening and morning" were, they were NOT what we think of as "evening and morning."

The end of Revelation tells us that Jesus himself will radiate light, so perhaps (since we know from John and Hebrews that Jesus was present at Creation), Jesus was the light of the first three days? (But then that is problematic, too, since the creeds, Hebrews and Pslams affirm Jesus as "uncreated", so He can't be the light that was created when God said, "Fiat Lux!")

Kepler

 

[NarrowPathPilgrim]

Here is a preview of my reply:

[c]Ta[sup]2[/sup]/Tb[sup]2[/sup] = Ra[sup]3[/sup]/Rb[sup]3[/sup][/c]

And....geocentrism is destroyed.

QED. Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.

Kepler

Okay, well, I just posted my thread!
Click Here to check it out!

Sincerely, Zach Doty

PS. I don't want to get this thread off topic when I have another thread to use so post your objection there and I'll answer it
Oh, and your first name doesn't happen to be Johannes does it? lol
Whats that you say? Oh, its your grandpa's first name, lol

 

[ThreeAM]

From the Bible we can work out that the Earth is around 6,000 years old. This, of course, relies on a six-day creation.

For those who don't believe in a six-day creation, they have a bit of a problem. For the age of the earth as scientists see it is measured from fossils. We know that Adam was on the earth 6,000 years ago.

If we are dating fossils as older than Adam, that means that death and destruction had to be in the world before Adam sinned, which undermines the fundamental message of the Bible.

Or it means man's means of dating fossils etc is flawed.

 

[TreesNTrees]

Do you believe it took God six days to make the universe or not?

I believe what the Word says.

With the use of a good concordance, we find that in Genesis 1:, the Word reads "and the earth BECAME without form and void"

In the beginning, God created it - verse one. Then, in Hebrew, is not "was", but that it "BECAME" without form and void.

Biblically, there is a space of time between verse 1 and 2 that is not disclosed. That is the time frame that potentially can contain both dinosaurs, and the homo sapians that predated the CREATION of an "Adam" man that was created in God's image on the 6th day of setting things in order.

The existence of plant life between verses 1 and 2 on the earth that "BECAME" without form and void is indicated by God speaking plants into being, but NOT "creating" them. Because "create" refers to making something that never existed before.

 

[GraceInHim]

Wow.

Isaiah 46


8 "Remember this, fix it in mind,
take it to heart, you rebels.

9 Remember the former things, those of long ago;
I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like me.

10 I make known the end from the beginning,
from ancient times, what is still to come.
I say: My purpose will stand,
and I will do all that I please.

 

[TreesNTrees]

God said 6 days...3 different times in the Bible that I can think of....

Good enough for me to believe...

Yes, I just checked out those references too. Glad you pointed those out. Certainly worth the time to read and study.

I noticed that they don't use the word "create" and that "earth" can refer to the dry land too.

The dry land did not exist until God brought it to pass.

These will be good verses to study in conjuction with how Gen. 1:1,2 say that God created the earth and how it "became" without form and void, to be followed by God making dry land (erets) come forth.

 

[NeoGRizzly]

Adam and eve was made as adults in one day. the earth was a full planet in six (real)days. you are not tying to say the bible was not true are you? jesus died and got up in 3 days, noah on about for 40 days. if the bible saids six why would you think 6,000?

 

[TreesNTrees]

Adam and eve was made as adults in one day. the earth was a full planet in six (real)days. you are not tying to say the bible was not true are you? jesus died and got up in 3 days, noah on about for 40 days. if the bible saids six why would you think 6,000?

Can you imagine them looking like BamBam and Pebbles from the Flintstones