creation in school

[nikemare02]

Why should creationism be taught in schools?  Let me know!!

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[Pete Harcoff]

It's completely unscientific and shouldn't be taught (at least, not in science class).

 

[paulewog]

I could say the same about evolution....

 

[notto]

Today at 09:40 AM paulewog said this in Post #3

I could say the same about evolution....

But those who write the national, state, and local science standards would disagree, along with the Supreme Court.

 

[LewisWildermuth]

Today at 07:31 AM nikemare02 said this in Post #1

Why should creationism be taught in schools?  Let me know!!

mgb0519@mail.ecu.edu

It should be taught... In a theology or history class, just like anything about any other religion.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Today at 10:40 AM paulewog said this in Post #3

I could say the same about evolution....

You could, but you'd be wrong.

 

[KraKto$is8]

Today at 03:59 PM LewisWildermuth said this in Post #5




It should be taught... In a theology or history class, just like anything about any other religion.

too true

 

[jon1101]

I think the Biblical creation myth should be taught as a creation myth of an ancient people and analyzed as a method of conveying theological truth, but I absolutely don't think it should be taught as science.

-jon

 

[JohnR7]

Today at 10:31 AM nikemare02 said this in Post #1

Why should creationism be taught in schools?  Let me know!!

mgb0519@mail.ecu.edu

In the very least the first three chapters in Genesis and the Sermon on the Mount from the New Testament should be taught. Most Christians feel Paul's love chapter should be taught.

There has been a huge amount of discussion on this forum, about the first three chapters in the Bible. Even there is often a huge discussion about Noah. Because there is so much general interest in the subject it should be taught in the schools. After the story of Noah is the tower of Babel and how the languages were confused at that time. That story does not get as much discussion as the first two, but again, it should be required to be taught.

After that, the rest of the book of Genesis could be divided into to classes and could be taught as a elective. You get into the story of Abraham, that would be one class, then a second class for the rest of the book of Genesis. 

The general consensus is that the Bible should be taught as literature. Some of the different and more popular interpertations could be discussed, but they don't have to be.  

 

[Cantuar]

Because there is so much general interest in the subject it should be taught in the schools.

There's a lot more interest in astrology than astronomy in this society. Are you suggesting that it be taught in science class instead of astronomy, just because more people are interested in it? Science doesn't depend on what interests people; it isn't politics. Sure, if people want to know about creation stories, then comparative religion classes are the place.

 

[Arikay]

Yep. It should be taught along with other myths.

There is no science to back it up. it also requires one to believe in opinions (the bible) and god to make it all work out. Thats not science. So it shouldnt be taught in science classes.

 

[JohnR7]

Today at 01:55 PM Cantuar said this in Post #10



There's a lot more interest in astrology than astronomy in this society.

You are the first to mention it here. I do not remember a monkey trial dealing with the teaching of astrology in the school system.

Maybe we should require that the Dear Abby or Miss Manners column be taught in the school system also. Or we could have a course on chinese fortuine cookies. Perhaps we could teach the sports page and have a special elective course on the auto ads.

One school I went to we were required to keep up with the current events. So we were not so much off in a world by ourselves apart from what was going on around us.

 

[Cantuar]

You are the first to mention it here. I do not remember a monkey trial dealing with the teaching of astrology in the school system.

What does that have to do with anything? If your argument for including creationism in class is that it's popular, which is what you said in that earlier post, then it follows that more popular alternatives to science should be allowed across the board simply on the basis of their popularity. The situation that existed eighty years ago is irrelevant.

 

[lucaspa]

Today at 10:31 AM nikemare02 said this in Post #1

Why should creationism be taught in schools?  Let me know!!

mgb0519@mail.ecu.edu

Creationism could be taught in public school science class&nbsp;as a what it is, a <B>falsified</B> theory.&nbsp; Just like geocentrism or phlogiston is taught as falsified theories.

Teaching creationism as a valid scientific theory is dishonest and serves no purpose but to advance a particular religion, therefore violating the Establishment Clause.

Creationism could be taught in a humanities class as one of many creation stories from the various religious traditions.

 

[lucaspa]

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[lucaspa]

Today at 12:10 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #9



In the very least the first three chapters in Genesis and the Sermon on the Mount from the New Testament should be taught. Most Christians feel Paul's love chapter should be taught.

...That story does not get as much discussion as the first two, but again, it should be required to be taught.&nbsp;

In the US you can't do this without violating the Establishment Clause.&nbsp; Not all Americans are Christians and the Constitution forbids government advancing a particular religion.

 

[Black Phase]

Separation of church and state, though most pronounced in Rhode Island, has always been a 'safe-guard' against any particular religion becoming too influencial in governmental affairs and (hopefully) politics. Education in public school systems is very often funded by state, local, and, sometimes, fedral government programs; legally, creationism is definately a religious view of the origins of the universe and, ultimately, humankind's existance within it. Sadly for creationists this can seem unfair, but the government wants children to be given the scientific evolutionism theory due to the validity of archeological studies and evidence of countless researchers.

Due to internet service complications I will need to continue this post at another time.

 

[Black Phase]

Hello. To continue again I will simply note that I have not as of yet given my actual opinion of what I believe of creationism being taught in schools.

In public schools, I believe that evolutionism and creationism should not be the only choices for students to be allowed to study and/or research, particularly creationism due to its illogicality and reliance on faith without thousands of pieces of unearthed evidence to support it. Also, creationism may need to contend with all of the other religious beliefs of the beginning of the universe and world not just evolutionism.

In private schools, I believe that the cirriculum may involve any religious view of the creation/beginnings of the universe and the coming existance of humankind. However, such beliefs must not harmfully espouse conviction and accusation into their students, especially to a severe enough degree to provoke physical abuse and rioting. (I am very ashamed of Northern Ireland).

 

[Arikay]

One thing to point out though, is evolution has nothing to do with the beginnings of the universe.

 

[JohnR7]

Yesterday at 08:43 PM lucaspa said this in Post #16 In the US you can't do this without violating the Establishment Clause.&nbsp; Not all Americans are Christians and the Constitution forbids government advancing a particular religion.

You can teach the Bible in the schools, you just can not teach a individual denominations doctrine. BAck in England each country had a offical denomination. In England for example it is the Church of England or the Anglo Saxton Church. Here in America they changed their name to Episcopalians.

There was some discussion in this country about what would be the offical denomination. It was decided that there would be no one individual denomination to be approved by the government in this country.

There are lots of sites on the internet that can explain this a lot better than I can. Even some of the infidel sites do a pretty good job of explaining what can and what can not be taught in our school systems.

Of course it is not required to be taught. There will be no Bible questions on the test to qualify for a High School degree. There are going to be questions about evolution on the High School test. But past the high school level no one is required to study evolution. You can get a Phd in Biology and never be required to study evolution.