Covid - Two Paths

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An unhinged rant from a woman known for claiming, among other things:

- Reptilian aliens control the goverment
- Alien DNA is used in vaccines
- Disease is caused by sex with demons

This is just getting silly now. If there were popular videos promoting things like running into traffic or setting yourself on fire, claiming they are perfectly safe, those would be 'censored' too, if people were stupid enough to believe them. And apparently they are.

Who are talking about?

 

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One of the Physicians speaking is no lightweight.
Robert C. Hamilton, M.D., F.A.A.P.,. has been in practice in Santa Monica for the past 26 years. He earned his bachelor's degree in biochemistry from University of California, Davis and from there he came to UCLA for medical school and pediatric residency. He remained for an additional year and served as Chief Resident for one year before going into private practice in Santa Monica.

After 12 years of practice with Santa Monica Pediatric Group, Dr. Hamilton ventured off to form his own practice, Pacific Ocean Pediatrics, in the fall of 1996. He has hospital privileges at Providence-St. John's Health Center and UCLA-Santa Monica Medical Center. In addition to Dr. Hamilton's practice, he has also been active in overseas humanitarian medical missions. In 1998 he founded Lighthouse Medical Missions and has led 25 medical mission teams to Africa and Central America.

 

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An unhinged rant from a woman known for claiming, among other things:

- Reptilian aliens control the goverment
- Alien DNA is used in vaccines
- Disease is caused by sex with demons

This is just getting silly now. If there were popular videos promoting things like running into traffic or setting yourself on fire, claiming they are perfectly safe, those would be 'censored' too, if people were stupid enough to believe them. And apparently they are.

Slander of a fine doctor.. Dr. Stella Immanuel is an Emergency Medicine Specialist in Katy, Texas. She graduated with honors in 1990. Having more than 30 years of diverse experiences, especially in EMERGENCY MEDICINE, Dr. Stella Immanuel affiliates with many hospitals including Sabine Medical Center, Jackson Parish Hospital, cooperates with many other doctors and specialists in many medical groups including Concord Medical Group Pllc, Hodges Emergency Group LLC.

 

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Dr. James Todaro graduated with honors from Columbia University, College of Physicians and Surgeons, and is a licensed medical doctor in the United States. He has cultivated technology and industry experience during his employment at the United States Patent and Trademark Office and as Director for a medical device company. James Todaro has been actively involved in blockchain technology since 2013.

 

[Strathos]

Slander of a fine doctor.. Dr. Stella Immanuel is an Emergency Medicine Specialist in Katy, Texas. She graduated with honors in 1990. Having more than 30 years of diverse experiences, especially in EMERGENCY MEDICINE, Dr. Stella Immanuel affiliates with many hospitals including Sabine Medical Center, Jackson Parish Hospital, cooperates with many other doctors and specialists in many medical groups including Concord Medical Group Pllc, Hodges Emergency Group LLC.

All of those statements can be sourced.

Trump’s New COVID Doctor Says Sex With Demons Makes You Sick

 

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All of those statements can be sourced.

Trump’s New COVID Doctor Says Sex With Demons Makes You Sick

So you are saying sex with demons doesn't make you sick. The statement sources are suspect.

 

[Strathos]

So you are saying sex with demons doesn't make you sick. The statement sources are suspect.

If such a thing actually happens, it's certainly a lot less common than viruses, bacteria, and pretty much every other way that people can get sick.

 

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If such a thing actually happens, it's certainly a lot less common than viruses, bacteria, and pretty much every other way that people can get sick.

True but I wouldn't use it to slander someone whom may or may not have said it.

 

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Transcript for those who would prefer to read and digest the information given. America's Frontline Doctors SCOTUS Press Conference Transcript - Rev

 

[Strathos]

True but I wouldn't use it to slander someone whom may or may not have said it.

There is a video recording of her saying it.

 

[com7fy8]

If nature were to run its course, and everyone caught Covid-19, the body would produce a natural immunity to what is essentially another cold and flu strain.

If your children were in the age group being killed and if your own children were the weak ones sure to be killed, would you say let nature take its course, so people don't have financial problems and emotional problems??

It seems bull ants can kill a human with one sting, if someone is allergic. So, I think, Aussies make sure their children are safe from bull ants.

I would say it is not bad to do what we can to keep seniors safe from COVID-19.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

If your children were in the age group being killed and if your own children were the weak ones sure to be killed, would you say let nature take its course, so people don't have financial problems and emotional problems??

It seems bull ants can kill a human with one sting, if someone is allergic. So, I think, Aussies make sure their children are safe from bull ants.

I would say it is not bad to do what we can to keep seniors safe from COVID-19.

Financial and emotional problems? Think we're a little past that. Try wholesale destruction, theft and mass murder, that's where it's headed.

God gives us oxygen to breathe and immune systems to overcome illness. As for me and my household, we'll follow the Lord.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

Thank you for the patronising put down.

My pleasure, though it's not my speciality.

Therapeutic Goods Administration has issued a statement on the subject which can be found here. COVID-19 testing in Australia - information for health professionals
I accept that your position might be argued if you read the first two paragraphs, however you may come to a more balanced view if you read the whole article.

Thanks I'm familiar with the TGA site. It confirms the PCR tests are unvalidated.

I am generally cautious, if not critical, of mainstream media and it's failure to ask questions of substance, and indeed if you bothered to understand what I was asking you would have seen that I was not in fact parroting mainstream rubbish, but rather asking question of the data I sourced from a Google News Source.

I could be a little on edge.

Observing the data seems to show that places with high infections rates have lower morbidity rates, whilst those with higher mortality rates have lower infection rates.

Could be, you'd need a bigger sample.

My first noticed this when I saw the difference between the USA and the UK. When I did some more analysis of this across a wider sampling of data I found that observable difference is quite common, and I concluded that it was not simply a statistical anomaly.

Now I don't know what the reason for this is, and it may be due to differences in public policy, differences in testing regimes, differences in quality of health care, differences in the strains of the virus, or something else.

Those countries have all been poaching fatalities from other categories and labelling them as covid. The PCR test is not binary, 'positive' is an interpretation based on a range of factors including number of cycles, primer positions, sequence id. Mostly software-based, there's no generally accepted standard for positive and even the world's leading expert who wrote the MIQE standard for PCR method is highly critical of reproducibility. So it's to a large extent a pig in a poke, garbage in garbage out.

PCR can't be accurate because the full virus has never been isolated and sequenced, just RNA fragments. So it just picks up a few bits and multiplies them. Further, those bits have never been distinguished from endogenous RNA. There aren't any covid-unique symptoms either, so they've really got nothing, scientifically speaking.

So when you're pondering the anomalies of downstream data, I suggest you take a moment to consider that it's all one big house of cards. It's an artificial and pointless exercise, as none of the data is reliable.

 

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Those countries have all been poaching fatalities from other categories and labelling them as covid. The PCR test is not binary, 'positive' is an interpretation based on a range of factors including number of cycles, primer positions, sequence id. Mostly software-based, there's no generally accepted standard for positive and even the world's leading expert who wrote the MIQE standard for PCR method is highly critical of reproducibility. So it's to a large extent a pig in a poke, garbage in garbage out.

PCR can't be accurate because the full virus has never been isolated and sequenced, just RNA fragments. So it just picks up a few bits and multiplies them. Further, those bits have never been distinguished from endogenous RNA. There aren't any covid-unique symptoms either, so they've really got nothing, scientifically speaking.

So when you're pondering the anomalies of downstream data, I suggest you take a moment to consider that it's all one big house of cards. It's an artificial and pointless exercise, as none of the data is reliable.

While I agree with you on the research and the testing, I must confess that I do believe the virus does exist. I believe it is like no other before. I also think it is used as a population control tool. It is all part of a bigger agenda plan. Where the virus is failing, is the evidence that doctors are getting a handle on it and are having better success with the tools they already have at their disposal to help their patients with it and the virus itself is not hanging around long enough for the "vaccine" to be the cure all. Mass hysteria is waning. Like AIDS when it first came on the scene, out come the hazmat suits, quarantine for those who have it, and once understood, protocols in place, the world returns to normal. Once more and more doctors come forward with their patient results, the field research will become the new norm on handling cases, and the understanding of it will allow us to return to normal. Any abnormalities in social behavior are bought and paid for by Soros and other wealthy democrats.

 

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"Dr. Stella Immanuel: (05:27)
Hello, I’m Dr. Stella Immanuel. I’m a primary care physician in Houston, Texas. I actually went to medical school in West Africa, Nigeria, where I took care of malaria patients, treated them with hydroxychloroquine and stuff like that. So I’m actually used to these medications. I’m here because I have personally treated over 350 patients with COVID. Patients that have diabetes, patients that have high blood pressure, patients that have asthma, old people … I think my oldest patient is 92 … 87 year olds. And the result has been the same. I put them on hydroxychloroquine, I put them on zinc, I put them on Zithromax, and they’re all well.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (06:12)
For the past few months, after taking care of over 350 patients, we’ve not lost one. Not a diabetic, not a somebody with high blood pressure, not somebody who asthma, not an old person. We’ve not lost one patient. And on top of that, I’ve put myself, my staff, and many doctors that I know on hydroxychloroquine for prevention, because by the very mechanism of action, it works early and as a prophylaxis. We see patients, 10 to 15 COVID patients, everyday. We give them breathing treatments. We only wear surgical mask. None of us has gotten sick. It works.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (06:46)
So right now, I came here to Washington DC to say, America, nobody needs to die. The study that made me start using hydroxychloroquine was a study that they did under the NIH in 2005 that say it works. Recently, I was doing some research about a patient that had hiccups and I found out that they even did a recent study in the NIH, which is our National Institute … that is the National … NIH, what? National Institute of Health. They actually had a study and go look it up. Type hiccups and COVID, you will see it. They treated a patient that had hiccups with hydroxychloroquine and it proved that hiccups is a symptom of COVID. So if the NIH knows that treating the patient would hydroxychloroquine proves that hiccup is a symptom of COVID, then they definitely know the hydroxychloroquine works.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (07:42)
I’m upset. Why I’m upset is that I see people that cannot breathe. I see parents walk in, I see diabetic sit in my office knowing that this is a death sentence and they can’t breathe. And I hug them and I tell them, “It’s going to be okay. You’re going to live.” And we treat them and they leave. None has died. So if some fake science, some person sponsored by all these fake pharma companies comes out say, “We’ve done studies and they found out that it doesn’t work.” I can tell you categorically it’s fixed science. I want to know who is sponsoring that study. I want to know who is behind it because there is no way I can treat 350 patients and counting and nobody is dead and they all did better.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (08:21)
I know you’re going to tell me that you treated 20 people, 40 people, and it didn’t work. I’m a true testimony. So I came here to Washington DC to tell America nobody needs to get sick. This virus has a cure. It is called hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and Zithromax. I know you people want to talk about a mask. Hello? You don’t need mask. There is a cure. I know they don’t want to open schools. No, you don’t need people to be locked down. There is prevention and there is a cure.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (08:48)
And let me tell you something, all you fake doctors out there that tell me, “Yeah. I want a double blinded study.” I just tell you, quit sounding like a computer, double blinded, double blinded. I don’t know whether your chips are malfunctioning, but I’m a real doctor. I have radiologists, we have plastic surgeons, we have neurosurgeons, like Sanjay Gupta saying, “Yeah, it doesn’t work and it causes heart disease.” Let me ask you Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Hear me. Have you ever seen a COVID patient? Have you ever treated anybody with hydroxychloroquine and they died from heart disease? When you do, come and talk to me because I sit down in my clinic every day and I see these patients walk in everyday scared to death. I see people driving two, three hours to my clinic because some ER doctor is scared of the Texas board or they’re scared of something, and they will not prescribe medication to these people"

 

[Shrewd Manager]

While I agree with you on the research and the testing, I must confess that I do believe the virus does exist.

Ok, but my point is that scientifically its existence hasn't been proven. So it might exist, but that would be a matter of faith.

I also think it is used as a population control tool. It is all part of a bigger agenda plan.

My word. Population reduction. Mark of the beast ready to be rolled out.

Mass hysteria is waning.

I sincerely hope so, but TPTB are putting a frenzied effort into the propaganda machine.

Like AIDS when it first came on the scene, out come the hazmat suits, quarantine for those who have it, and once understood, protocols in place, the world returns to normal.

Sure, but they've been running these viral terror campaigns since the Rockefeller snake-oil salesmen got a grip of the medical establishment, since Pasteur poisoned a dog and claimed it had rabies. Swine flu, ebola, zika, even measles, polio etc etc, all just phony diabolical scams.

The problem with the protocols is they settle on fraudulent practices. For example the use of cell cultures and antibiotics to isolate a virus, if you put the sample in that mix it will create cell death and induce RNA production by the cells. So they create the conditions and then claim to have identified it.

Once more and more doctors come forward with their patient results, the field research will become the new norm on handling cases, and the understanding of it will allow us to return to normal. Any abnormalities in social behavior are bought and paid for by Soros and other wealthy democrats.

You're optimistic about a return to normality, frankly I see this one as headed for Armageddon.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

Dr. Stella Immanuel: (05:27)

These are doctors who care, for whom the Hippocratic Oath still means something.

 

[KCfromNC]

"Dr. Stella Immanuel: (05:27)
Hello, I’m Dr. Stella Immanuel. I’m a primary care physician in Houston, Texas. I actually went to medical school in West Africa, Nigeria, where I took care of malaria patients, treated them with hydroxychloroquine and stuff like that. So I’m actually used to these medications. I’m here because I have personally treated over 350 patients with COVID. Patients that have diabetes, patients that have high blood pressure, patients that have asthma, old people … I think my oldest patient is 92 … 87 year olds. And the result has been the same. I put them on hydroxychloroquine, I put them on zinc, I put them on Zithromax, and they’re all well.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (06:12)
For the past few months, after taking care of over 350 patients, we’ve not lost one. Not a diabetic, not a somebody with high blood pressure, not somebody who asthma, not an old person. We’ve not lost one patient. And on top of that, I’ve put myself, my staff, and many doctors that I know on hydroxychloroquine for prevention, because by the very mechanism of action, it works early and as a prophylaxis. We see patients, 10 to 15 COVID patients, everyday. We give them breathing treatments. We only wear surgical mask. None of us has gotten sick. It works.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (06:46)
So right now, I came here to Washington DC to say, America, nobody needs to die. The study that made me start using hydroxychloroquine was a study that they did under the NIH in 2005 that say it works. Recently, I was doing some research about a patient that had hiccups and I found out that they even did a recent study in the NIH, which is our National Institute … that is the National … NIH, what? National Institute of Health. They actually had a study and go look it up. Type hiccups and COVID, you will see it. They treated a patient that had hiccups with hydroxychloroquine and it proved that hiccups is a symptom of COVID. So if the NIH knows that treating the patient would hydroxychloroquine proves that hiccup is a symptom of COVID, then they definitely know the hydroxychloroquine works.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (07:42)
I’m upset. Why I’m upset is that I see people that cannot breathe. I see parents walk in, I see diabetic sit in my office knowing that this is a death sentence and they can’t breathe. And I hug them and I tell them, “It’s going to be okay. You’re going to live.” And we treat them and they leave. None has died. So if some fake science, some person sponsored by all these fake pharma companies comes out say, “We’ve done studies and they found out that it doesn’t work.” I can tell you categorically it’s fixed science. I want to know who is sponsoring that study. I want to know who is behind it because there is no way I can treat 350 patients and counting and nobody is dead and they all did better.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (08:21)
I know you’re going to tell me that you treated 20 people, 40 people, and it didn’t work. I’m a true testimony. So I came here to Washington DC to tell America nobody needs to get sick. This virus has a cure. It is called hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and Zithromax. I know you people want to talk about a mask. Hello? You don’t need mask. There is a cure. I know they don’t want to open schools. No, you don’t need people to be locked down. There is prevention and there is a cure.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (08:48)
And let me tell you something, all you fake doctors out there that tell me, “Yeah. I want a double blinded study.” I just tell you, quit sounding like a computer, double blinded, double blinded. I don’t know whether your chips are malfunctioning, but I’m a real doctor. I have radiologists, we have plastic surgeons, we have neurosurgeons, like Sanjay Gupta saying, “Yeah, it doesn’t work and it causes heart disease.” Let me ask you Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Hear me. Have you ever seen a COVID patient? Have you ever treated anybody with hydroxychloroquine and they died from heart disease? When you do, come and talk to me because I sit down in my clinic every day and I see these patients walk in everyday scared to death. I see people driving two, three hours to my clinic because some ER doctor is scared of the Texas board or they’re scared of something, and they will not prescribe medication to these people"

Why should we believe this single doctor's claims over the claims of hundreds or thousands of doctors who have the opposite experience. They also have MDs, impressive resumes, first hand experience treating patients and so on. What makes this testimony any more believable than theirs - other than hers happens to line up with far-right talking points about the disease?

 

[com7fy8]

Financial and emotional problems? Think we're a little past that. Try wholesale destruction, theft and mass murder, that's where it's headed.

How about an example of what you mean by this, please?

By the way, in general that stuff is because of how humans are, not necessarily because of policies. If it's possible to make a policy to let seniors die, it is possible to manage people so they don't . . . while also they take care of people, financially. My opinion is you can do both. But this world can rig things so it looks as though you have to choose between two bad choices.

And, by the way, if you have good immunity, God's peace almighty keeps your heart and your mind. So, why would you say emotional trouble excuses you to cull the senior population??

"the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus" > if we pray in obedience to how God has us pray > Philippians 4:6-7.

So, if we have good spiritual immunity, then, God's peace can keep us emotionally so we are not letting emotional trouble excuse us to let others die when it is not necessary.

And God's word says to support the weak, and the merciful will receive mercy.

And, like I offered, if it was your children who were the weak ones who would be killed, would you say let all the children die while we go get our money?

 

[Shrewd Manager]

How about an example of what you mean by this, please?

How about the study that reported 95% of ppl over 65 put on respirators for covid in NY died? That's a death machine. Any experienced nurse knows that a respirator plus sedatives on an oldie results in almost certain death. And yet the state was paying financially-strapped hospitals big money to do it. Now it doesn't take a super-sleuth to see that we have there state-sponsored premeditated homicide.

By the way, in general that stuff is because of how humans are, not necessarily because of policies. If it's possible to make a policy to let seniors die, it is possible to manage people so they don't . . . while also they take care of people, financially. My opinion is you can do both. But this world can rig things so it looks as though you have to choose between two bad choices.

I'm obviously not recommending guillotining anyone. At-risk individuals (not 'positive cases', but genuinely frail or sick ppl) stay out of the way. Just commonsense, like I wouldn't visit an old person if I had the flu.

And, by the way, if you have good immunity, God's peace almighty keeps your heart and your mind. So, why would you say emotional trouble excuses you to cull the senior population??

What's all this about culling the population? That's what the devil and his minions in big pharma and big govt are trying to do.

So, if we have good spiritual immunity, then, God's peace can keep us emotionally so we are not letting emotional trouble excuse us to let others die when it is not necessary.

And God's word says to support the weak, and the merciful will receive mercy.

I think you have it all back to front and upside down friend. Perhaps it will help for you to read John MacArthur's statement:
Christ, not Caesar, Is Head of the Church

And, like I offered, if it was your children who were the weak ones who would be killed, would you say let all the children die while we go get our money?

Again, a completely false and irrational analogy. All the children will die a fate worse than death under the hideous spectre of biotech corporate slavery, the kingdom of fear and the mark of the beast - tormented day and night without rest, as the Bible teaches. This is what we're up against.

Please don't be so naive as to accept the cover story at this point in proceedings.