Covid Tests

[Justin-H.S.]

Then there's a world wide conspiracy, where governments around the world are sacrificing thousands of their citizens, just to make the US president look bad.

Thanks to the internet and modern air travel, the world isn’t as big as it used to be. “World-wide” anything isn’t such an impossible proposition anymore. We’re using a world-wide web to speak to each other now, so I don’t know why governments couldn’t do the same. The private sector does so all the time. I spoke with vendors in Japan and Taiwan on a daily basis, and the colleague next to me spoke to the Swiss and Italians regularly while another spoke to the Chinese. We conspired to develop new product with our world-wide partners before anyone got to market on a daily basis. Do you not have that sort of life experience? Have you not bought anything from overseas before? Heck, even Mt. Athos ships world-wide.

 

[Justin-H.S.]

It’s more than just to “make the US president look bad.” There’s a wider scope to it all.

Money, Powa, Respect. Every gangsters dream. Every Satans scheme. 40 days in the wilderness steez.

Inb4: “Satan is a conspiracy theory”

 

[prodromos]

You're right. Hundreds if not thousands of health care professionals around the world would also have to be involved along with researchers around the globe.

It only needs the ones at the top to be involved. The powers that be want to drastically reduce the world's population, and directing organisations away from effective treatments is much less direct than other methods.

 

[Dewi Sant]

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[FenderTL5]

It only needs the ones at the top to be involved. The powers that be want to drastically reduce the world's population, and directing organisations away from effective treatments is much less direct than other methods.

Serious question:
You find a world-wide population control theory, involving most of the world's governments and involving healthcare professionals at the top* more plausible than:
Breitbart, "the platform for the alt-right" as they declared themselves in 2016, rustled up ten partisans willing to espouse their latest divisive story.

It is a fact that Breitbart organized the event and published the initial video.
The group of doctor's web site was published 12 days ago, then taken down on Tuesday.
Then there's the credibility issues of the individual doctors.

*For the sake of dicsussion, conceding to your point that it's only the top and that all of the researchers around the world are following instruction to chase the wind. That hospitals, doctors and nurses are just going along with this because.. something.

 

[truefiction1]

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[Xenophon]

Serious question:
You find a world-wide population control theory, involving most of the world's governments and involving healthcare professionals at the top* more plausible than:
Breitbart, "the platform for the alt-right" as they declared themselves in 2016, rustled up ten partisans willing to espouse their latest divisive story.

It is a fact that Breitbart organized the event and published the initial video.
The group of doctor's web site was published 12 days ago, then taken down on Tuesday.
Then there's the credibility issues of the individual doctors.

*For the sake of dicsussion, conceding to your point that it's only the top and that all of the researchers around the world are following instruction to chase the wind. That hospitals, doctors and nurses are just going along with this because.. something.

Well, equally, because a lot of people and organizations behind 'world-wide population control' are very open about it and say that that's what they are about very directly - for anyone who bothers to read their books. Jonas Salks, Julian Huxley (or any of the Huxleys), Terrence McKenna, Timothy Leary, Fabians like H.G. Wells, etc. And the list is fairly endless, which is why C.S. Lewis wrote two books about such people. Even Bill Gates has given speeches about depopulating Africa as the #1 priority. Should we just believe that all the people who have spoken for this have never ever made any effort towards it?

If so, then we should consider that Brietbart despite saying it's "the platform for the alt-right" probably "never ever made any effort" toward that either.

And let's not forget that the Abortion and contraception industry literally is this

And the Gates family has been a Planned Parenthood family for generations - Bill grew up going to their fundraisers.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

It only needs the ones at the top to be involved. The powers that be want to drastically reduce the world's population, and directing organisations away from effective treatments is much less direct than other methods.

World population is almost 8 billion. Covid deaths so far are around 700 000 globally. Mainly old and sick people whose chances to get any more offspring are negligible.

Even if the covid deaths got to few million before working vaccine was distributed it wouldn’t make a dent to world population.

Raising living standards and educating women does that.

The world is going to population decline in few decades anyway.

So Covid being a population control tool is just a conspiracy theory.

 

[Xenophon]

World population is almost 8 billion. Covid deaths so far are around 700 000 globally. Mainly old and sick people whose chances to get any more offspring are negligible.

Even if the covid deaths got to few million before working vaccine was distributed it wouldn’t make a dent to world population.

Raising living standards and educating women does that.

The world is going to population decline in few decades anyway.

So Covid being a population control tool is just a conspiracy theory.

Of course it's a conspiracy theory, because it's a theory about a possible conspiracy - calling it a conspiracy theory is slovenly language because confounding the existence of a theory with it's falseness.

I do agree that this theory is implausible and on it's face the wrong theory of what's up with the COVID. Although, forgive me if I'm mistaken, the theory itself is about the vaccine being population control, not the virus itself - of which nothing has been seen of it.

But what's always ignored is that the problem with COVID it's not it's death rate, it is it's likely ability to cause certain chronic effects by damaging various organs.

 

[Xenophon]

Money, Powa, Respect. Every gangsters dream. Every Satans scheme. 40 days in the wilderness steez.

Inb4: “Satan is a conspiracy theory”

The Psalms be like,

"Why do the nations conspire
and the peoples plot in vain?
2 The kings of the earth rise up
and the rulers band together
against the Lord and against his anointed, saying,
3 “Let us break their chains
and throw off their shackles.”


And the internet be like,

"Yo, biblical prophets, conspiracies don't happen."

 

[Xenophon]

“But right now today, the cumulative scientific data that has been put together and done over a number of different studies has shown no efficacy. So when there’s a video out there from a bunch of people spouting something that isn’t true, the only recourse you have is to be very, very clear in presenting the scientific data that essentially contradicts that,”
- head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a member of the White House’s coronavirus task force -
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It should be recognized that nobody here talking on the subject knows anything about it. All that's happening is bantering about statements made by people with unknown trustworthiness and being reported by through people who lack the expertise and perhaps even the will to understand about a myriad of studies of questionable basis that have never been explored in their fullness and which few people can actually understand - certainly not those who filter the information to the masses.

All that is done here (and I'm not trying to sing you out, Fender, both sides are doing it) is pontificating about what is known based on what's believed already about the world, and neither side has any imperative to fall in line to other side. None of it has anything to do with evidence at all - and evidence won't convince anyone, because everyone knows that evidence is theory-laden and 'fact' is already biased in it's creation (as pointed out by Fr. Seraphim Rose, Hegel, Nietzsche, C.S. Lewis, Wolfgang Smith, and basically anyone else worth reading.)

"The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness... The apparent endemicity of bad research behaviour is alarming. In their quest for telling a compelling story, scientists too often sculpt data to fit their preferred theory of the world." - Richard Horton, the editor in chief of The Lancet

 

[Justin-H.S.]

The Psalms be like,

"Why do the nations conspire
and the peoples plot in vain?
2 The kings of the earth rise up
and the rulers band together
against the Lord and against his anointed, saying,
3 “Let us break their chains
and throw off their shackles.”


And the internet be like,

"Yo, biblical prophets, conspiracies don't happen."

Psalms be slangin conspiracy theories and shhhhhut yo mouth

 

[Light of the East]

you forgot about the X gene

Are you two gonna start this again??

 

[ArmyMatt]

Are you two gonna start this again??

we never stopped from before

 

[Light of the East]

we never stopped from before

Well, at least you two have a hobby to keep you out of mischief.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Well, at least you two have a hobby to keep you out of mischief.

truism

 

[InnerPhyre]

Jesus Christ will not save you from plague. In the time of Justinian there was a horrible plague and thousands prayed not to die and they still died. Many of them were holy people and trusted God to save them and they still died. Christ will save you from torment and free you from death. But He will not Keep you from dying in a natural plague. Wear masks. God I’m so tired of seeing people die of this virus and watching my brothers minimize it.