Could God be the most emotional being in the universe????

[Phantasman]

Yes, those words are used anthropomorphically (in the language of humans), for how else would we understand what God is communicating to us in those situations?

Remember, God is not matter.
He has nothing physical by which to experience emotion.
Emotions require the organic matter of a brain, and the chemicals to stimulate it to a physical experience.

That God did not have human emotions seems to have been understood by the apostles.

When Paul healed a man in Lystra, the people thought the gods had come down to them in human form (Ac 14:11).
But note how Paul described himself to show he was not a god:
"We too are only men of like passions with you (Ac 14:15)."
It seems it was common knowledge back then, even to the pagans, that gods did not have human emotions.

Scripture contains much anthropomorphic language for the sake of human understanding, but not for the sake of attributing physical emotion to a spirit God.

In the faith,
Clare

You are getting confused here, sister.

Emotions are not subject to matter. Atomic particles do not constitute dreams and ideas, unless you may decide you want to follow L Ron Hubbard (Scientology). God IS love. God IS emotions. Emotions flow through spirit, not matter. In heaven we will feel Joy. Does that sound like a physical place or a spiritual place?

It irks me when these old fashioned church goers picture God as some stoned faced bearded man sitting in a chair acting though he has no feelings. Actually, no one has seen God.

But once again, even the limited Bible tells me God is emotional. The books outside it even more.

But, believe what you want. I love my God emotional, he's great.

 

[Clare73]

You are getting confused here, sister.

Emotions are not subject to matter. Atomic particles do not constitute dreams and ideas,

Dreams and ideas are not emotions.

We are talking about emotions.

unless you may decide you want to follow L Ron Hubbard (Scientology). God IS love. God IS emotions.
Emotions flow through spirit, not matter.

Emotions are not dreams and ideas, they are experiences, feelings.
They require matter.

In heaven we will feel Joy. Does that sound like a physical place or a spiritual place?

If you experience it (feel it), it is based in matter.

In heaven we will feel joy because we have spiritual (transformed, not-characterized-by-sin) physical bodies, just like Jesus' resurrection body (Lk 24:39).
So yes, we will experience joy and emotions in heaven.

For "spiritual body" does not mean an immaterial body.
It is a term originating with Paul, and used by no one else in the NT epistles.
He calls it "spiritual" in contrast to natural (sinful, corrupt, weak, perishable), and not in contrast to physical or material.
Paul never uses the word "spiritual" to specifically denote the immaterial or non-physical. See
Ro 1:11, 7:14, 15:27; 1Co 2:13, 15, 3:1, 9:11, 10:3, 4, 12:1, 14:1, 37; Gal 6:1; Eph 1:3, 5:19, 6:12; Col 1:9, 3:16.

We will have spiritual (glorious, powerful, immortal) physical bodies in eternity (1Co 15:42-44), made of matter and capable of experiencing, feeling, as was Jesus' resurrection body (Lk 24:39).

We will experience emotion in heaven because we will be physical. God is not physical and does not experience emotion.

In the faith,
Clare

 

[DennisTate]

You are getting confused here, sister.

Emotions are not subject to matter. Atomic particles do not constitute dreams and ideas, unless you may decide you want to follow L Ron Hubbard (Scientology). God IS love. God IS emotions. Emotions flow through spirit, not matter. In heaven we will feel Joy. Does that sound like a physical place or a spiritual place?

It irks me when these old fashioned church goers picture God as some stoned faced bearded man sitting in a chair acting though he has no feelings. Actually, no one has seen God.

But once again, even the limited Bible tells me God is emotional. The books outside it even more.

But, believe what you want. I love my God emotional, he's great.

Extremely well said Phantasman.

I felt that this concept is so important I posted it as a note on one of a Facebook page because a lot of people will not make the effort to scroll down to page 85 on Scribid.....

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&&note_id=379956208748564&id=105842322826622

Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe?

 

[Phantasman]

Extremely well said Phantasman.

I felt that this concept is so important I posted it as a note on one of a Facebook page because a lot of people will not make the effort to scroll down to page 85 on Scribid.....

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&&note_id=379956208748564&id=105842322826622

Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe?

Thanks, Brother Dennis.

Some people just see things differently. Most of the time this comes from following a particular church doctrine where groups are convinced that they are correct and no other way could exist. I was there myself and it's not easy to take off those dark glasses.

Anyways, we each experience God in our individual ways. My love I have now feels much different from him and for him as it did when I was a Nazarene Youth Minister. My spiritual connection with the Holy Spirit is felt differently as well. And understanding of God and Jesus and real knowledge of Christian ideology has filled me since I started reading the non Canonical Christian books.

 

[eachallberg]

I believe God is attributed to positive emotion while the devil is to negative emotion.

The only problem is the one way of deception, that the devil can appear good.

Peace.

 

[Phantasman]

I believe God is attributed to positive emotion while the devil is to negative emotion.

The only problem is the one way of deception, that the devil can appear good.

Peace.

I ............kind of ....................think along that path, but;


God is love..............evil is ignorance of love, or lack of it.

If you love someone as God loves you, you would not commit any of the sins against them (think about it).

John 15
12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you

 

[Phantasman]

Also, there are too many instances where even the Bible itself says that God is well "pleased". Pleasure is an emotion. So I feel that God is emotional. How else would he show mercy?

 

[DennisTate]

Also, there are too many instances where even the Bible itself says that God is well "pleased". Pleasure is an emotion. So I feel that God is emotional. How else would he show mercy?

God is definitely working on me in this exact area over these past few days. My last name is English...and the coldness with which we English can deal with others ....and the degree to which we lacked mercy for others over the centuries........defies comprehension:


The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves | Global Research

 

[DennisTate]

I believe God is attributed to positive emotion while the devil is to negative emotion.

The only problem is the one way of deception, that the devil can appear good.

Peace.

Yes.....we English thought that we were doing a service to God when we enslaved the people of Ireland and the people of Africa and.......


The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves | Global Research

The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

.....and I think that something even worse in some ways is that we did all this even while attending church.......even while singing hymns....and listening to sermons that generally justified all that we did by quoting the situation faced by the tribes of Israel as they entered the land of Canaan and........

 

[DennisTate]

On that note a brilliant Christian friend of mine who I met on the internet wrote an astonishing article that directly relates to the American Presidential election....and what we Christians teach regarding assisting the poor?????!!!!

http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/once-upon-a-christian-nation/comment-page-1#comment-654337

 

[DennisTate]

Thanks, Brother Dennis.

Some people just see things differently. Most of the time this comes from following a particular church doctrine where groups are convinced that they are correct and no other way could exist. I was there myself and it's not easy to take off those dark glasses.

Anyways, we each experience God in our individual ways. My love I have now feels much different from him and for him as it did when I was a Nazarene Youth Minister. My spiritual connection with the Holy Spirit is felt differently as well. And understanding of God and Jesus and real knowledge of Christian ideology has filled me since I started reading the non Canonical Christian books.

Artistically inclined people seem to be somewhat more emotional than average.

I would love to see some of you artistically inclined Christians join in this discussion that is already on the third page....and I just began the topic this morning!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7701455/

North American churches should each have their own currency!

 

[sculleywr]

This would seem to correspond with the Creator actually having thought up and choreographed an infinite number of Big Events over infinite time in the past as some physicists seem to believe has been the case!

Investing infinite time in the creation....would certainly tend to give the Creator a greater emotional attachment to all of us than we can begin to imagine...considering how young we are.


“When My Father moves His little finger, the whole universe trembles. To shake the nations with words does not impress anyone who dwells here. But when even the least of My brethren on earth shows love, it brings joy to My Father’s heart. When even the most humble church sings to My Father with true love in their hearts, He silences all of heaven to listen to them. He knows that one cannot help but to worship when they are beholding His glory here,but when those who are living in such darkness and difficulty sing with true hearts to Him, it touches Him more than all of the myriads of heaven can.

“Many times, the broken notes from earth caused all of heaven to weep with joy as they beheld My Father being touched. A few holy ones struggling to express their adoration for Him has many times caused Him to weep.Every time I see My brethren touch Him with true worship, it makes the pain and grief I knew on the cross seem like a small price to pay. Nothing brings Me more joy than when you worship My Father. I went to the cross so that you could worship Him through Me. It is in this worship that you, the Father and I are all one.” (Pastor Rick Joyner, chapter 15, page 85, The Vision)

TheVision The Final Quest the Call RickJoyner PDF

On one level, we would say that God is never changing. He is, in His essence, super-non-knowable, and can only be super-non-known. However, in another sense, we can say that His energies, in His actions, He does change. At one time, we can see Him having mercy on Israel, but on the next occasion, He is filled with fiery wrath toward His people.

We are created in the image of God, and in one way, we do not change. I was Billy the day I was born and I will remain Billy till I die. Whether a person calls me by my Christian name of Vasily or not does not change that I am still me. However, I change daily, too. One day I will be sad, the next happy. I may be many of these in one day.

 

[Phantasman]

On one level, we would say that God is never changing. He is, in His essence, super-non-knowable, and can only be super-non-known. However, in another sense, we can say that His energies, in His actions, He does change. At one time, we can see Him having mercy on Israel, but on the next occasion, He is filled with fiery wrath toward His people.

We are created in the image of God, and in one way, we do not change. I was Billy the day I was born and I will remain Billy till I die. Whether a person calls me by my Christian name of Vasily or not does not change that I am still me. However, I change daily, too. One day I will be sad, the next happy. I may be many of these in one day.

I agree, Brother Scully. Some miss interpret "yesterday, today and forever". I believe there are some things God may "change" in response do decisions made by mans free will (or anyones). Yet his promise is a promise. He creates "covenants" for a reason. And gives us "commandments" for a reason. And those who hear/feel his Word, know it's strength. Yet he reacts to those actions made out of free will by his never changing view of sin.

We best be careful and always hold God above all with trust and love and know that he is always loving and fair in return.

 

[DennisTate]

On one level, we would say that God is never changing. He is, in His essence, super-non-knowable, and can only be super-non-known. However, in another sense, we can say that His energies, in His actions, He does change. At one time, we can see Him having mercy on Israel, but on the next occasion, He is filled with fiery wrath toward His people.

We are created in the image of God, and in one way, we do not change. I was Billy the day I was born and I will remain Billy till I die. Whether a person calls me by my Christian name of Vasily or not does not change that I am still me. However, I change daily, too. One day I will be sad, the next happy. I may be many of these in one day.

Well said Sculleywr!

I saw a video a couple of years ago that I believe you will enjoy. This is about a four year old who had a brush with death? The story about how he met his sister....who had been miscarried previous to his birth....was astonishing! If you wife hasn't seen this yet she might find it truly comforting.


Heaven Is for Real

Colton’s Story


Heaven Is for Real is the true story of a four-year old son of a small town Nebraska pastor who experienced heaven during emergency surgery. He talks about looking down to see the doctor operating and his dad praying in the waiting room. The family didn’t know what to believe but soon the evidence was clear …

 

[DennisTate]

Thanks, Brother Dennis.

Some people just see things differently. Most of the time this comes from following a particular church doctrine where groups are convinced that they are correct and no other way could exist. I was there myself and it's not easy to take off those dark glasses.

Anyways, we each experience God in our individual ways. My love I have now feels much different from him and for him as it did when I was a Nazarene Youth Minister. My spiritual connection with the Holy Spirit is felt differently as well. And understanding of God and Jesus and real knowledge of Christian ideology has filled me since I started reading the non Canonical Christian books.

Thank you Phantasman.

I did up a writing this morning to attempt to put some of this together.


Universal Salvation, is everybody eventually led back to heaven/paradise/love?

Mr. Christian Andreason, when attempting to put his astonishing near death experience into terms that all of us can relate to presented a powerful case...that yes....we will eventually all be "saved" and brought back into a state of mind of light and love!

Christian Andreason, Chapter 3:

"Who goes to Heaven?

"In the endbelieve it or not (sigh of relief) everyone gets to come home! I know some people will have a hard time hearing this. Especially those who believe that people who do evil deserve damnation. But you must understand; Heaven does not think as we do. Heaven is a place of ultimate LOVE! They want nothing more than to see us healed and restored should we have been damaged by evil. And to Heaven, those who are hurt by evil or even seen as Souls' who actually do it ... are all seen as individuals who are hurting in the worst wayand in need to repair. Also, do you honestly think Jesus would have asked us to forgive, serve and Love one another without hesitationif Heaven does not do that as well? Think about it."

.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html


Some of my Christian friends who witness to others on a continual basis find this idea profoundly offensive. Frankly, I don't entirely blame them for this....because it is logical for somebody who is getting themselves into ridicule and persecution to ask, what am I doing all this work for if everybody is eventually saved anyway?

Good question, and over the past two years I was shown what I perceive as an explanation for branches of time, the idea of time looking far more so like a menorah, than as a straight line as we tend to suppose, which will provide my friends with an answer for what can seem at first to be a contradiction!

If you have Christian friends and you would like to be able to explain this concept to them in a way that they can understand it I recommend beginning with Ezekiel chapter 37.

Ezekiel 37 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)

Ezekiel 37:1 ¶

"The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which [was] full of bones, And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, [there were] very many in the open valley; and, lo, [they were] very dry. And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest."

Every moment in what you and I think of as the past, is real, does exist and has been recorded on a form of energy that is far beyond DVD technology or any type of recording device that we know of so far.

Our Creator the Ancient of Days the FAther, and the Ancient of Days the Mother, and the for all intents and purposes nearly as ancient the Logos/Word/Messiah, have the power to energize a moment in the past....reproduce everybody and everything that existed in that moment in the past....and then spin off a totally new and unique branch of time....that usually is vastly less violent than another branch of time that may already have occured thousands of years ago.

If you have any interest in theoretical physics you will find some quotations here at my blog that may help to explain this but I feel I should leave you with one quotation that verifies that the fundamental energy, that ultimately composes everything that exists in our material universe is off the scale unimaginably powerful.

Dogmatic Atheists Lack Mathematical Aptitude.

"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly"

( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)

 

[DennisTate]

From 1980 to 1983 Helen Wambach PhD and Dr. Chet Snow hypnotized and PROGRESSED over 2000 volunteers into what they perceived to be the future. A map was drawn of what the USA would look like by January 1, 2013, in that branch of time that they saw!

My theory is that what they saw, did probably actually occur in the fairly distant past but to them they perceived all of this as our future?!

I regard the Dr. Chet Snow study as probably ultimately being replicable, verifiable, anecdotal evidence that Ezekiel 37 is an event that happens again and again and again in order for God our Father and the Holy Spirit and our Messiah to lead all of us to salvation?!

If this theory is an error, my apologies, but this is the best that I can do with all this at this time!

.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

AMERICA IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM
After the major Earth Changes 1998-2012 AD
as foreseen in Mass Dreams of the Future
by Dr. Chet B. Snow

During his near death experience Mellen Thomas Benedict was shown verification for what Stephen Hawking Ph.D. would term The Cyclic Model of the Universe.

Basically this is the idea that an infinite number of Big Bang events occurred over infinite time in the past....BEFORE.....our most recent Big Bang event that could well have occurred roughly 13.72 billion years ago!

.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05


Let's think for a moment what it must be like to invest an astonishing degree of effort over INFINITE TIME in order to lay the foundation for life in a material universe???

Would a Being who has worked so hard for so long....tend to become emotionally attached to Their creation?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/fans...otional-being-in-the-universe/379956208748564


Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe?

Pastor Rick Joyner, The Vision, Chapter 15:

"

I saw the Father. Millions and millions were attending Him. His glory was so great and the power of His presence so awesome that I felt that the whole earth would not have even measured as a grain of sand before Him. When I had once heard His audible voice, I felt like an atom standing before the sun, but when I saw Him, I knew that the sun was like an atom before Him. The galaxies were like curtains around Him. His robe was composed of millions and millions of living stars. Everything in His presence was living—His throne, His crown, His scepter. I knew that I could dwell before Him forever and never cease to marvel; there was no higher purpose in the universe than to worship Him.

"Then the Father became intent on one thing. All of heaven seemed to stop and watch. He was beholding the cross.The Son’s love for His Father which I continued to express through all of the pain and darkness then coming uponHim touched the Father so deeply that He began to quake. When He did, heaven and earth quaked. When theFather closed His eyes, heaven and earth grew dark. The emotion of the Father was so great that I did not think Icould have survived if I had beheld this scene for more than the brief moment that I did.

"Then I was in a different place, beholding a worship service in a little church building. As sometimes happens in a prophetic experience, I just seemed to know everything about everyone in the battered little room. All were experiencing severe trials in their lives, but they were not even thinking of them here. They were not praying about their needs. They were all trying to compose songs of thanksgiving to the Lord. They were happy, and their joy was sincere.

"I saw heaven, and all of heaven was weeping. I then saw the Father again and knew why heaven was weeping.They were weeping because of the tears in the eyes of the Father. This little group of seemingly beaten down, struggling people had moved God so deeply that He wept. They were not tears of pain, but of joy. When I saw the love that He felt for these few worshipers, I could not contain my own tears."

 

[DennisTate]

I thought you said you believed the Bible? Didn't Exodus say he was a "jealous" God many times? Does God not love? Did he not say "here is my son who I am "proud" "?.

How can you say God has no emotions? I can point out more if you want.

Phantasman....do you agree with me that Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua has the power to replicate the moment that he began his ministry in Judaea at the baptism by John....and spin off a new branch of time...that fulfills Ezekiel 37....and this new branch of time is done to turn lies told by Cephas/Peter/Simon bar Jonah....into truth?????!!!

I have ran into convincing anecdotal evidence for the existence of branches of time.....which to me would fit amazingly well with Ezekiel chapter 37.....Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman has written ideas on theoretical physics that would fit amazingly well with this.. So did Albert Einstein!!!!

Time....looks far far far far more like a menorah than as a straight line....

 

[DennisTate]

I agree, Brother Scully. Some miss interpret "yesterday, today and forever". I believe there are some things God may "change" in response do decisions made by mans free will (or anyones). Yet his promise is a promise. He creates "covenants" for a reason. And gives us "commandments" for a reason. And those who hear/feel his Word, know it's strength. Yet he reacts to those actions made out of free will by his never changing view of sin.

We best be careful and always hold God above all with trust and love and know that he is always loving and fair in return.

Well said Phantasman!

I just ran into another astonishing and brilliantly written visionary experience given to Pastor Rick back in 1993!


War and Glory by Rick Joyner, Dreams and Visions, Divine Revelations, MP3

(from MorningStar Journal Vol.4 No.2 Pages: 56-65 )

In August of 1993, I had a vision of the church. It was represented as an island in the middle of a sea. There were many different types of buildings allover this island, each of which I understood to represent a different denomination or movement. These buildings seemed to clash with each other architecturally as there were very old ones next to very modern ones. There was a war going on between many of the buildings, and most of them looked like bombed out shells. People were still living in the buildings, but most were starving and wounded.

The Controlling Spirits

There were two dark spirits over the island directing this war. One was named Jealousy and the other one Fear. They congratulated each other every time one of the buildings suffered damage, or people were wounded.

I then saw two powerful and frightening spirits rising over the sea. These became storms. One was Rage and the other Lawlessness. They were stirring up the sea and causing great waves to crash onto the island. Soon these storms became so large that they seemed even more threatening to the island than the war.

I felt that the people in the city had to be warned about these storms, and several apparent watchmen were trying to do this, but no one would listen to them. The people only debated and argued about whether the watchmen should be trusted. This was remarkable because anyone who just looked up could see the storms for themselves.

These wars had left so many people wounded that the hospitals were fast becoming the largest buildings on the island. The hospitals were movements or denominations that had given themselves to healing the wounded. As these grew, the other warring factions had no respect for them as being a place where even their own wounded were being cared for, but were instead more resolved to destroy them than the other buildings.

As the war continued, even those who were not badly wounded had the appearance of phantoms, or they became grotesquely deformed from the starvation and disease. Anytime a building received a supply of food, which would attract people, it would become a target. I could not comprehend how even a war could be so cruel--and this was the church!

In the midst of the battle, men were still trying to add to their buildings, or star new ones, but it was futile. Whenever one building would start to rise a little higher than the others, or any time a new building was started, it would become the main target of all of the other buildings, and it would quickly be reduced to rubble.

I was then shown many powerful leaders who were conducting this war. All of them had the same word on their forehead: "Treachery." I was surprised that anyone would follow someone with that written on them, but they did. I was reminded of II Corinthians 11:20, "For you bear with you anyone if he enslaves you, if he devours you, if he takes advantage of you, if he exalts himself, if he hits you in the face."

(Pastor Rick Joyner)


WOW.....THIS IS BRILLIANTLY WRITTEN!!!!!

If I didnt' know better I'd be tempted to think that Pastor Rick was actually inspired!!!!!?????

 

[DennisTate]

I got back an amazingly insightful response to the following question last week:

.....

I have reason to believe that Michael/Metatron standing to his feet, may
have occurred in 1995!

Daniel 12:1 ¶

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

The Hordes of Hell are Marching

Pastor Rick Joyner:
.....
The Lord then stood up. Then all of those who were seated upon the thrones for as far as I could see also stood up. His eyes burned with a fire I had not seen before.

"You have called upon Me for grace. This request I never deny. You shall return, and the Holy Spirit shall be with you. Here you have tasted of both My kindness and My severity. You must remember both if you are to stay on the path of life. The true love of God includes the judgment of God. You must know both my kindness and severity or you will fall to deception. This is the grace that you have been given here, to know both. The conversations you had with your brethren here were My grace. Remember them."

He then pointed His sword toward my heart, then my mouth, then my hands.

When He did this fire came from His sword and burned me with a great pain. "This too is grace," He said. "You are but one of many who have been prepared for this hour. Preach and write about all that you have seen here. What I have said to you say to My brethren. Go and call My captains to the last battle. Go and defend the poor and the oppressed, the widows and the orphans. This is the commission of My captains, and it is where you will find them. My children are worth more to Me than the stars in the heavens. Feed My lambs. Watch over My little ones. Give the word of God to them that they may live. Go to the battle. Go and do not retreat. Go quickly for I will come quickly. Obey Me and hasten the day of My coming."

A company of angels then came and escorted me away from the throne. The leader walked beside me and began to speak.

"Now that He has stood He will not sit again until the last battle is over. He has been seated until the time when His enemies are to be put under His feet. The time has now come. The legions of angels that have been standing ready since the night of passion have now been released upon the earth. The hordes of hell have also been released. This is the time that all of creation has been waiting for. The great mystery of God will soon be finished. We will now fight until the end. We will fight with you and your brethren."

I awoke.

 

[DennisTate]

This question is connected to this discussion over on the Messianic Judaism forum:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7647325/
Yom Kippur/The Rapture connection?!

This is just a theory and I may be wrong but after being highly skeptical of the idea of a rapture for most of my life I am now open to the idea that the Rapture could fit in extremely well with the ultimate fulfillment of the Fast of Yom Kippur.


I could not get my head around this idea until reading the NDE account of Dr. Richard Eby:



"He paused as though the joy of that thought had overwhelmed him for the moment.

"My Father assures me that the time is yet a little while, but very little. Soon he will call those already in paradise to surround me as we descend from this third heaven to the first heaven around the Earth. The souls of all my saints will be instantly clothed in their new resurrection bodies, as will the living saints on Earth who rise to us in the glory cloud! At the sounding trumpet they all receive new bodies and rise to meet us in the air. We return as my body to my throne room with the Father. Now do you understand why I called this place a temporary abiding place? Do you grasp what it will mean to be one with me and the Father in your incorruptible bodies? My book states that I assumed mankind's sin so you "might be made the righteousness of God' in me!"

"I can clearly recall how Jesus' voice paused at this moment. He was savoring an anticipation too intense and private to be revealed. Was he pre-living that moment at which he would enjoy the victory which his Father would give him as the eternal reward for his own long-suffering? His own sting of death would be swallowed up, and he would be the omniscient Head of a completed and compliant body for whom he had shed his blood on a terrible cross. He would reign as KING of the Jews after these days of grace. Then his thoughts returned to me.

"My son, when that time has come, my Father will call to me. The applause of the heavenly hosts will be deafening; they too have been awaiting that day, ever since they announced my birth to the shepherds at Bethlehem so long ago. Scoffers will gaze with fear and wonder as my angelic hosts watch me fulfill my promise to my earthly body of believers at my soon return to Earth." (Dr. Richard Eby)
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