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Could God be the most emotional being in the universe????

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The Son of God is clearly a very emotional person. Since he is the image of God, the Father must be an essentially emotional being, too. Also, to deny emotionality to the Creator would mean to reduce him to a level lower than humanity, it would virtually make him a being with no personality.

If it is true that the Ancient of Days the Father is the most emotional being in the universe…… what kind of an effect would this tend to have on the Word - Logos… the Son?

"You seek to know and walk in My power so that you can heal the sick and perform miracles, but you have not even begun to comprehend the power of My word. To RESURRECT ALL THE DEAD WHO EVER LIVED ON EARTH WILL NOT EVEN CAUSE ME TO STRAIN. I uphold all things by the power of My word. The creation exists because of My word, and it is held together by My word." (Rick Joyner, page 176, The Vision, emphasis mine)

"Remember the potential for even the least of My little ones to touch the heart of the Father. That alone makes their value greater than any price. I WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE CROSS AGAIN FOR A SINGLE ONE OF THESE. I also feel your pain. I know your trials because we share them. I feel the pain and the joy of every soul. That is why I still intercede continually for all of you. There will be a time when all tears will be wiped away from every eye. There will be a time when only joy is known again. Until then, pain can be used. Do not waste your trials. Your greatest worship and the greatest expression of your faith that pleases Us will come in the midst of your trials." Rick Joyner.... The Vision, page 210, emphasis mine)
 
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God makes it crystal clear in scripture that the destructiveness of sin will destroy itself by destroying this earth [a system visible as both the capitalist rat-race man-mangling machine, and its fully integrated religion of sinners under Satan's rule destroying ability of man to know God by the ONLY means possible to hide God from man, sin]

God's 'wrath' as man sees it , is simply to allow mankind to destroy itself whilst God take the very few [Jude 1:14] saints who Love as He commands, as Jesus commands, to build and run the kingdom come so that after the Millennium countless many can be saved by the EXAMPLE of a society run by perfect Love of all where any sin brings a second death to any of teh many who were destroyed for sin in this earth -Matt 7:13- but are all resurrected [Rev 20:13] free of sin [Rom 6:7] and at last baptised of the spirit -Joel 2:28- to have the very best chance of being saved by works of Love after death [Rev 20:13] simply by following the norm in Jesus' kingdom and resisting Satan resurrected for the purpose of trialling them...

thus God's 'wrath' is just a figure of speech, a way of portraying god as if the spirit were human with human reactions... it is simply poetry [and poetry does not translate ]

But isn't an age coming when the majority of the people on earth seem to have a good basic understanding of God and the plans of God for each of our lives?

http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

Howard Storm's light being friends told him more about the new world to come. According to them, God wished to usher in the kingdom within the next two hundred years. In order to do so, God had rescinded some of the free will given to creatures, in favor of more divine control over human events. This new world order, according to Howard, will resemble some near-death descriptions of heaven. People will live in such peace and harmony and love that communication will be telepathic, travel instantaneous and the need for clothing and shelter eliminated. The lion will indeed lie down with the lamb.

What was shown to near death experiencer Howard Storm sure sounds like the outpouring of the Holy Spirit?

Jeremiah 31:34
"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."
 
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I would say "no". Most emotions come from survival instincts wired into our physical bodies. God is spirit and not subject to natural desire.

But…. could it be that the love of parents for their children……. in our world is only a fraction of God's love for each of us?

in this world……. if a child goes into another denomination than they were raised up in….. it is astonishing how many parents here will treat their own kids very badly after that type of event.


http://www.christianforums.com/t7857100/
Finally am beginning to understand what Howard Storm meant about sins and mistakes!
 
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I would say "no". Most emotions come from survival instincts wired into our physical bodies. God is spirit and not subject to natural desire.

Hi,
Dear, that is not my experience with Him. It is not. Although normally shielding me from what I am going to say to everyone one here, one day, He, God The Father, made me laugh in church. No one noticed, but that was also part of the plan. Not everyone knows what He does in church, in this case, what he normally does in every Mass, when I am not there. I do. One day, I told Him go. Go do what you normally do. I meant before he and I beca.......... So, He did. Then He did something from that normal location, for that part of the Mass for Him. I broke up, in surprise, because of the seriousness of this, for everyone else. I caught myself and looked around. No one else noticed. And, yes that was a first for me. I had seen many other sides, to God The Father, but not this one.
LOVE and love,
...Katherina., .... .
 
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Why not. God is love. We are made in his image. I wouldn't think these emotions came from an evil side. We also know God angers and hates (sin). He probably has a sense of humor as well. He is the powerhouse that probably emits/allows these emotions. How we use them of our own free will may be how we are judged. Hell could be a place we are sent to where only the negative of those exist for eternity. (sorrow, fear, etc)

Hi,
One day, early on in our relationship. I said something to God The Father. He fired back at me: "~Oh yeah. Love~". He hit me with love, in my side. It hurt. I was stunned. I could not move. I was almost frozen in place.
I have looked back at that event for years. It was a real sticking point for me. I asked for this to be made okay, because I was not then, okay with this, and then had resentment, and really thought about what it means to be with someone who hurt me. Yes, I thought for awhile, I might have to leave Him, over this. It hurt a lot. It took me minutes to get over, but, did I do something to hurt Him. I went over my words and my actions, and yes, I did. I will not tell you what that is here, but I hurt, God, God The Fathers feelings enough, and quickly enough I think, and with His own family, by some very clumsy words. So, that is how I got over it, also realizing that when God, is personal, he is very personal and very vulnerable. Since then I try to not be careless. I told Him:: "You have nothing for me." Think about that for a moment. I told God in a personal, session when ~he Jesus, Mary, and the holy spirit, were just hanging out with me. I told God The Father you have notihing for me.~ Yes, I can tell you why I said that. But, only later, I realized how hurtful that was, for I owe Him all I am, all I will be, but much more, much more, ......
LOVE and love,
...Katherina.,
And yes, you are free and actually obliged to disbieve this, but, this is my life.
LOVE and love.,
...Katherina., .... .
 
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This would seem to correspond with the Creator actually having thought up and choreographed an infinite number of Big Events over infinite time in the past as some physicists seem to believe has been the case!

Investing infinite time in the creation....would certainly tend to give the Creator a greater emotional attachment to all of us than we can begin to imagine...considering how young we are.


“When My Father moves His little finger, the whole universe trembles. To shake the nations with words does not impress anyone who dwells here. But when even the least of My brethren on earth shows love, it brings joy to My Father’s heart. When even the most humble church sings to My Father with true love in their hearts, He silences all of heaven to listen to them. He knows that one cannot help but to worship when they are beholding His glory here,but when those who are living in such darkness and difficulty sing with true hearts to Him, it touches Him more than all of the myriads of heaven can.

“Many times, the broken notes from earth caused all of heaven to weep with joy as they beheld My Father being touched. A few holy ones struggling to express their adoration for Him has many times caused Him to weep.Every time I see My brethren touch Him with true worship, it makes the pain and grief I knew on the cross seem like a small price to pay. Nothing brings Me more joy than when you worship My Father. I went to the cross so that you could worship Him through Me. It is in this worship that you, the Father and I are all one.” (Pastor Rick Joyner, chapter 15, page 85, The Vision)

TheVision The Final Quest the Call RickJoyner PDF

Dear Dennis,
One day, sick, but not too sick, I am in church early, and I don't know why. Soon or immediately as I take up my normal seat in church, at the very back. Jesus is hip to hip with me, on my right. I did not have time to react. God The Father is hip to hip with me. He is on my left. Sure enough, The Holy Spirit is on the Left of God The Father, also sitting in the pew. Mary I cannot feel her, but I figured she must be there, so I told myself where she must be, and placed her there with logic only. The others, I could feel, and what I could feel, I could see.
It is the sixth time that this will happen, that the reason for it becomes clear. The fourth fifth and sixth time this happened, I was too sick to stand in the weekday masses. So I sat only. When I did that, God The Father stayed with me, and I didn't know why nor did I feel too good about that. It used to be that He would leave me, when they all left me. It was at the consecration of The Eucharist. God The Father would always stand in front of the altar, looking at His Son. (Years and years ago, a woman asked Jesus, why she cannot see the priest during the Consecration of The Eucharist, but instead she only sees Him. He answered her: "That is because I wrap the priest.") So with Jesus gone, The Father gone, and The Holy Spirit gone, (He stands to the left of the altar, with Mary.), when I got sick enough, and could not stand during Mass anymore, now God The Father stayed with me, during the entire mass. (By the way, The Holy Spirit would leave, and come back before the consecration of the Eucharist, when everyone normally left. I watched, and learned something about the mass, I didn't know before. When the priest asks God to let his spirit come upon these gifts and make them holy, The Holy Spirit left each time then came back and sat down.)
On the sixth day, I was there after mass. I don't know why. The others had left. God The ~father kept me company. Then he left. I searched for him. 7 or so people were praying. He was there in front of them listening to them pray. He came back. Then he left again. They were praying again. There he was, standing really, but of course in spirit form, but in bodily spirit form. His head is lowered, he is looking directly at them, I think. I am not too certain other than his head is always looking down a little when in front of the altar, looking at his son, or listening to the women, and of all things to the single male there, when ever he prayed solo. Soon, I got the message. He wants to be near me, and he wants to listen to them pray.~ (In those days, notihing was abnormal to me. I just did and did, what ever I was asked to do). ~I started to move closer and closer. Since I am so deaf, I finally got to a place far enough away from them, that I cannot understand a word, but close enough so he never left my side anymore. I asked the holy spiirt. "Do you want me to say something to them" No answer came back. "Do you want me to say some thing to them" And I did mean about God The Father standing in front of them listening to their prayers. No answer. I waited and I waited. I was not going to interrupt them, nor did I know what I would do, if anything when they finished praying. Finally they finish. I am up. I approach them. I start to talk:
Sometimes when I am in church Jesus, God The Father, The Holy Spirit are with me. I never feel Mary, and that is maybe because they are so strong that I don't feel her, but I always put her there. Normally durin......~ A woman interrupt me. She is talking to them. She says to them: "Father Lucas talked about this in Mexico. He said it is always some poor person, like that man over there sleeping on the floor waiting for mass to start." I saw most of what she described. I asked her: "Are you a Christian mystic?" She said yes. "Oh we have to talk", immediately I felt bad. Mystics never talk. I knew that and felt bad, and knew this could not happen, as mystics are no club, they are a job and for others, never are they for themselves, never. I started back in"~ and I told them about the patterns I observed, and how they changed today, and what I saw. Then I said: I just thought you might like to know, that sometimes when you pray, God The Father, Himself, is standing in front of you listening. ~"
Your story above, is what I have experienced.
LOVE and love,
...Katherina., .... .
 
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So would that mean that God listens to our prayers out of a sense of duty but not because He actually enjoys our prayers?


Pastor Rick Joyner, The Vision, Page 87:

Hi,
~It is more than enjoyment. It is more.~
LOVE and love,
...Katherina., .... .
 
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God is spirit, not matter.

He does not have emotions.

Our emotions are a reflection of God's nature, but not in correspondence to it.

In the faith,
Clare

Hi,
I am beyond my limit tiredness wise. He does have emotions, and so do angels. Angels actually love God so much.... But, when I experience God The Father, or His Son Jesus, or The Holy Spirit, and Mary, yes they have emotions. I am too tired now, to tell you much, except it is there, it is there.
LOvE and love,
...Katherina., .... .
I don't care how tired I am, a girl I am working with for God, there in front of me Jesus and Mary appear, looking at her, and I feel their emotions, and I can see them. God The Father, I can feel and see His emotions. The first time, after He left, during the asking of The Question to me, He had something said to me in departing. I felt Him for the first time, that way, as a person I felt HIm, and I knew much about Him from That. They all have feelings, and emotions.
LOVE and love,
...Katherina., .... .
 
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Hi,
I am beyond my limit tiredness wise. He does have emotions, and so do angels. Angels actually love God so much.... But, when I experience God The Father, or His Son Jesus, or The Holy Spirit, and Mary, yes they have emotions. I am too tired now, to tell you much, except it is there, it is there.
LOvE and love,
...Katherina., .... .
I don't care how tired I am, a girl I am working with for God, there in front of me Jesus and Mary appear, looking at her, and I feel their emotions, and I can see them. God The Father, I can feel and see His emotions. The first time, after He left, during the asking of The Question to me, He had something said to me in departing. I felt Him for the first time, that way, as a person I felt HIm, and I knew much about Him from That. They all have feelings, and emotions.
LOVE and love,
...Katherina., .... .

Well said Katherina!

What you report sure fits with the scripture about The Father knowing even when a sparrow falls...… and having the hairs of our heads numbered!
 
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Hi everybody,
Some of this is a fear to me. I always wonder if I am helping God, with my mouth not staying closed. I thought Jesus said His second coming would be obvious. I have also run into the situation, where no one listens to each other, because they actually know who their teacher is, and it is not me. Also just before, when I was to experience God, up front close and personal, I was told not to teach because I am so horrible at it. I don't teach. I am horrible at it, yet if you knew my background it would not really make sense at first, as I am a partially degreed Electrical Engineer.
I was a prophet briefly, after these encounters. That ended. I had lots of Spiritual Gifts, before during and after these encounters. They are gone now. I have never understood that part.
I am to be unknown on earth, after this is all over with. I am fine with that. Yet what bothers me most of all this, with even the Church telling me, that indeed, I am who I say I am, because they tested this. Why if Jesus said something, did it not happen????? Why?

With that, Dr. Eby was suddenly transported to hell and, for the next two minutes, he endured the horrors of hell with its cold, rot and isolation. As a result of this startling visitation he traveled the world with his wife Maybelle, proclaiming God’s grace and healing power. In 1978, Eby closed his medical practice in order to follow his calling into a full-time ministry. His after-death communication (ADC) with Jesus in Lazarus’s tomb is recounted in Eby's follow up book, Jesus Told Me to Tell Them I Am Coming. Further miracles are recounted in this book which also details Eby’s national exposure from his appearances on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, and the attention generated by the miracles - both physical and spiritual - which accompanied his encounters with the sick.

Dr. Eby's NDE is also unique in one more important point. During his conversation with Jesus, Eby was told he would be alive when the Second Coming of Christ occurs. But on December, 26, 2002, Eby died from a protracted illness of which he tried to stay alive as long as he could. and it is appears neither the Rapture nor the Second Coming has occurred. With Eby's prophecy an apparent failure, skeptics and fundamentalists Christians alike concluded Eby to be a false prophet; and therefore, put his entire NDE into question. But I, the webmaster of this site, do not agree with this assessment as you will find on this web page. It is quite possible Jesus has already returned through reincarnation and is alive today. There is strong Biblical and extra-Biblical evidence of Jesus teaching reincarnation as the real interpretation of bodily rebirth known as the "Resurrection of the Dead." Jesus often preached in parables to hide their higher spiritual meaning from the uninitiated. There is also evidence of the Bible having several levels of interpretation. With this in mind, we should evaluate Dr. Eby's testimony with an open mind and understand the possibility that God works in mysterious ways.

LOVE, the way I remember the way God loves, also fading in my memory,
...Katherina.,
 
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Dr. Richard Eby's NDE added fascinating details about the fall of Lucifer and in my opinion presents a great case for Old Earth plus Gap Theory.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7715259/

NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.
 
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Why not. God is love. We are made in his image. I wouldn't think these emotions came from an evil side. We also know God angers and hates (sin). He probably has a sense of humor as well. He is the powerhouse that probably emits/allows these emotions. How we use them of our own free will may be how we are judged. Hell could be a place we are sent to where only the negative of those exist for eternity. (sorrow, fear, etc)

This is exactly what I think as well.

This idea fits with this other theory.......
that indicates that there may be multiple Ezekiel 37 events.....
in order to lead more of us to salvation.

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-philosophical-implications-of-multiverse-theory.7931488/

The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?
 
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Why not. God is love. We are made in his image. I wouldn't think these emotions came from an evil side. We also know God angers and hates (sin). He probably has a sense of humor as well. He is the powerhouse that probably emits/allows these emotions. How we use them of our own free will may be how we are judged. Hell could be a place we are sent to where only the negative of those exist for eternity. (sorrow, fear, etc)


Thank you for your encouraging response Phantasman.

This topics fits with a rather new branch of science where
more "Theistic" versions of evolutionary theory are being
seriously discussed.




Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?

Poll: Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?
 
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Also, there are too many instances where even the Bible itself says that God is well "pleased". Pleasure is an emotion. So I feel that God is emotional. How else would he show mercy?

Exactly!

This explains that joy......
displayed in front of the angels of heaven.....
over one sinner who repents!
 
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I think that God has emotions and is emotional to a certain degree, but then He is also perfect so He would have to have perfect justification for it. Probably whether it is positive or negative emotion that it is done in perfect love.

I am going to go out on a limb a little and say since man was created first in the image of God that God is probably more like a man (less emotional, for the most part) than woman who was created and is important to God, but not the first human creation.

One thing I think is important to keep in mind is that God cares about His Children primarily on a spiritual level and is preparing us for heaven, not to live on earth. I think some people may expect God to help us out a lot on earth, but I think we need to realize more that we are being prepared for the future, not the present.
 
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Interesting question though. Never really gave it much thought.

My dad died on January 1, 1990.

I began researching near death experience accounts at that time
and I soon came to the realization that the "soul sleep" doctrine that
I had been taught since I had been a teenager was almost certainly
terribly flawed.
 
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I think that God has emotions and is emotional to a certain degree, but then He is also perfect so He would have to have perfect justification for it. Probably whether it is positive or negative emotion that it is done in perfect love.

I am going to go out on a limb a little and say since man was created first in the image of God that God is probably more like a man (less emotional, for the most part) than woman who was created and is important to God, but not the first human creation.

One thing I think is important to keep in mind is that God cares about His Children primarily on a spiritual level and is preparing us for heaven, not to live on earth. I think some people may expect God to help us out a lot on earth, but I think we need to realize more that we are being prepared for the future, not the present.

A near death experiencer who was an Atheist prior to
his brush with death, reports being shown an infinite number of Big Bang type
events going back further and further in time.....
far more than 13.72 billion years..... but really to eternity in the past.

I would tend to think that exerting astonishing effort over infinite time in the past
might tend to make an intelligence more, and more and more emotionally connected
to the created intelligences........
 
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A near death experiencer who was an Atheist prior to
his brush with death, reports being shown an infinite number of Big Bang type
events going back further and further in time.....
far more than 13.72 billion years..... but really to eternity in the past.

I would tend to think that exerting astonishing effort over infinite time in the past
might tend to make an intelligence more, and more and more emotionally connected
to the created intelligences........
I studied near death experiences for years also. But one thing I learned is they are all different with a few elements that seem the same.

My advice would be to get back to the Bible and let all that go. God has told us what He wants us to know.
 
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