Corporal punishment

[Spinrad]

No, we don't -- and you still wonder where the problems come from?

They deleted the thread were I proved the Law is forever, somehow I think you don't really care.

I do know this:



Either God is lying or you are. Problem is -- God can't lie.



Where I'm from that's called pre-judging somebody.



Any friend of Jesus is a...well, never mind.

God has to exist to say anything, let alone lie. So I do agree with you there. And I don't wonder where the problems come from at all. Having spent half a lifetime in the midst of a superstitious peopleand reading a scoatch on anthropology and psychology I had it figured out by my twentieth birthday. We think we are civilized but we depend to this day on basic survival instincts that no longer serve us. Somehow I don't think you really care.

 

[Pastor Visser]

God has to exist to say anything, let alone lie. So I do agree with you there. And I don't wonder where the problems come from at all. Having spent half a lifetime in the midst of a superstitious peopleand reading a scoatch on anthropology and psychology I had it figured out by my twentieth birthday. We think we are civilized but we depend to this day on basic survival instincts that no longer serve us. Somehow I don't think you really care.

Not really -- if you studied yourself so retarded that you think God's not real (yet man can't give life nor even miracle a tree), you're beyond me:

Rom 1:20; "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."

It's each man's choice to turn from reality and accept jewish myths. We only live in the year 2006 a.d.

 

[Spinrad]

Not really -- if you studied yourself so retarded that you think God's not real (yet man can't give life nor even miracle a tree), you're beyond me:



It's each man's choice to turn from reality and accept jewish myths. We only live in the year 2006 a.d.

If I studied myself so retarded? What the hell does that even mean? And if I don't believe the bible is accurate, why in the hell would I take it's word for it when it comes to seeing God in everything? I think you may be studdying yourself retarded, Pastor.

 

[Pastor Visser]

If I studied myself so retarded? What the hell does that even mean? And if I don't believe the bible is accurate, why in the hell would I take it's word for it when it comes to seeing God in everything? I think you may be studdying yourself retarded, Pastor.

Hey pal -- you know better than I.

There's little I can say to someone who's wiser than the accuracy of the scriptures, lol.

 

[Spinrad]

Hey pal -- you know better than I.

There's little I can say to someone who's wiser than the accuracy of the scriptures, lol.

But you keep on coming, don't you?

 

[Pastor Visser]

But you keep on coming, don't you?

Sure, even the godless deserve a reply.

 

[Spinrad]

Sure, even the godless deserve a reply.

Let ease your suffering.

 

[Pastor Visser]

Let ease your suffering.

1Pe 2:20; "For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God."

Christians win irregardless, dude.

 

[Spinrad]

Do they win "irregardless"? Well, have fun in heaven. Until then enjoy the loss. It'll make it that much sweeter.

 

[Pastor Visser]

Do they win "irregardless"? Well, have fun in heaven. Until then enjoy the loss. It'll make it that much sweeter.

lol, it's not about the afterlife -- that's a guarantee.

We win in this life more so.

 

[Spinrad]

lol, it's not about the afterlife -- that's a guarantee.

We win in this life more so.

No, you don't.

 

[Pastor Visser]

No, you don't.

Explain, please.

I know we miss out on all those STDs, but really...

 

[Spinrad]

You get sick, die, can be beaten to death or hit by a bus just like anyone else. You lose STDs, I lose not having more and better sex. Until we die all is even steven.

Of course, you may convince yourself you are winning, but that is delusion. Are you winning?

 

[Pastor Visser]

You get sick, die, can be beaten to death or hit by a bus just like anyone else. You lose STDs, I lose not having more and better sex. Until we die all is even steven.

Of course, you may convince yourself you are winning, but that is delusion. Are you winning?

Well:

1Co 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

...not everyone runs that race but all should be trying.

 

[ravenscape]

reading this thread is sort of like experiencing corporal punishment

 

[morningstar2651]

Prison is not meant to be a punishment, it is a non-fatal means of removing a person from society to protect others.

reading this thread is sort of like experiencing corporal punishment

I concur.

 

[FSTDT]

Seems like everyone's getting me wrong. First, I didn't talk about upbringing. I was talking about criminal law.

I never denied the fact that rehabilitation is better. However, not everyone can be rehabilitated. Some are driven into crime due to the circumstances, and can be helped out. However, some are simply bad. Of course, I'd rather have a guy respect the law. But, if I had to choose between a guy fearing the law or breaking it indiscriminately, I'd make him fear it.

Gotcha. You meant capital punishment (death penalty), not corporal punishment (beating your children).

In any case, capital punishment is reserved for the worst and most vile people on the planet, their lives are not so precious that they deserve to be protected, and the world is made a better place over all by having them removed from it.