Isn't obesity also terrible for putting a massive strain on the respiratory system?
Depends on the level of obesity and the otherwise health state of the individual.
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Isn't obesity also terrible for putting a massive strain on the respiratory system?
A very uneducated very unintellectual view.By any reasonable standard the sheer number of people a disease kills is the true measure of it's deadliness.
Flu annually infects over three quarters of a million people and kills up to 80,000. When coronavirus tops these numbers only then will it be 'more deadly' than the flu, imho.
It's a combination of fatality rate in the infected as well as the contagion rate.No. It's how many of the people it infects that it kills as to how deadly it is. Ebola is hardly deadly by your standard, but if you ever got it you would most likely be dead.
So much of this is completely wrong. A measure of deadliness would be based on how infectious a disease is, and the mortality rate of those it infects. A deadly disease can be contained, and thus have a low kill count. MERS, a cousin of COVID-19, kills 36% of the people it infects, but it has only killed 600 due to being highly contained and thankfully not very infectious compared to other viruses.By any reasonable standard the sheer number of people a disease kills is the true measure of it's deadliness.
Flu annually infects over three quarters of a million people and kills up to 80,000. When coronavirus tops these numbers only then will it be 'more deadly' than the flu, imho.
Eventually the current steps will work, although I'm worried about NYC. Washington state seems close to stabilizing: Coronavirus Deaths by U.S. State and Country Over Time: Daily TrackingJust wait until they hit that peak again next week.
I have it on good authority from my hospital that my state is expecting to hit the peak of the curve this week.
It will be interesting to see what he means about restarting the economy. Once things stabilize, we can almost certainly adopt rules like those in NJ. Our businesses are operating, except retail, with instructions for people to work from home where possible. That leaves the economy operating except retail. Would that be enough for him?If Trump thinks he can use half measures to stop this, then you guys are going to be experiencing worse than Italy very quickly. I’m extremely sorry for you.
hmmm..... The governor of Georgia has just called for self-quarantine for anyone coming from NY. It would be interesting for NJ to try that.I'm in NJ. If you look at infection rates across our state, it's pretty clear that the best thing we could do is close our borders with NY. Unfortunately I don't think one US State can cut off contact with another US State.
So much of this is completely wrong. A measure of deadliness would be based on how infectious a disease is, and the mortality rate of those it infects. A deadly disease can be contained, and thus have a low kill count. MERS, a cousin of COVID-19, kills 36% of the people it infects, but it has only killed 600 due to being highly contained and thankfully not very infectious compared to other viruses.
You don't specify, but I'm guessing you are talking US only.
The US gets MANY more cases then 750,000.. 2018 saw 35.5 million cases in the US, with 490,000 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths: Estimated Influenza Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States — 2018–2019 influenza season | CDC
the flu, give or take, kills 100 Americans per day. Even with all that, the flu has a fatality rate of .096%.
COVID-19 has infected a confirmed 46,450 americans at the time of this message. It has killed 593 of them. That is a fatality rate of 1.28%, over a magnitude higher than the flu.
Thing is, the flu is an ancient disease, that has plague us since the dawn of history. COVID is a 4 month old strain that just really started its international tear 2 months ago, and with a large amount of containment that the flu rarely ever faces.
COVID is much more infections than the flu. Cases are increasing at an insane pace, and only nations with strict containment and detection have been able to stall it. America is not taking those precautions. We are doing little to contain or detect. Many areas are carrying on like barely anything is happening. we have people crowding beaches and parks as bodies drop. If we don't hunker down soon, and instead throw caution to the wind, we will find ourselves standing atop an unfathomable number of corpses in a matter of months at best.
It will be interesting to see what he means about restarting the economy. Once things stabilize, we can almost certainly adopt rules like those in NJ. Our businesses are operating, except retail, with instructions for people to work from home where possible. That leaves the economy operating except retail. Would that be enough for him?
Perhaps he thinks if we can get the infection rate down enough we can go to aggressive testing and contact tracing. The manpower and testing to do that seems enormous.
Perhaps he thinks we're going to have miracles. Suppose we can test people on the spot, and there's some drug that will cure them. At that point I guess you could tolerate everyone getting it. But that sounds like something that's good in theory and unworkable in practice.
The press conference where he announced this was the first one where Fauci wasn't present.
So much of this is completely wrong. A measure of deadliness would be based on how infectious a disease is, and the mortality rate of those it infects. A deadly disease can be contained, and thus have a low kill count. MERS, a cousin of COVID-19, kills 36% of the people it infects, but it has only killed 600 due to being highly contained and thankfully not very infectious compared to other viruses.
You don't specify, but I'm guessing you are talking US only.
The US gets MANY more cases then 750,000.. 2018 saw 35.5 million cases in the US, with 490,000 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths: Estimated Influenza Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States — 2018–2019 influenza season | CDC
the flu, give or take, kills 100 Americans per day. Even with all that, the flu has a fatality rate of .096%.
COVID-19 has infected a confirmed 46,450 americans at the time of this message. It has killed 593 of them. That is a fatality rate of 1.28%, over a magnitude higher than the flu.
Thing is, the flu is an ancient disease, that has plague us since the dawn of history. COVID is a 4 month old strain that just really started its international tear 2 months ago, and with a large amount of containment that the flu rarely ever faces.
COVID is much more infections than the flu. Cases are increasing at an insane pace, and only nations with strict containment and detection have been able to stall it. America is not taking those precautions. We are doing little to contain or detect. Many areas are carrying on like barely anything is happening. we have people crowding beaches and parks as bodies drop. If we don't hunker down soon, and instead throw caution to the wind, we will find ourselves standing atop an unfathomable number of corpses in a matter of months at best.
That is a poor metric because it is changing, and changing fast.I'm basing it on total deaths, not the other metrics. When total deaths from Covid-19 surpass the flu then it will be more deadly, for the population as a whole. It's just one person's way of looking at it. No biggy.
I'm in NJ. If you look at infection rates across our state, it's pretty clear that the best thing we could do is close our borders with NY. Unfortunately I don't think one US State can cut off contact with another US State.
As long as you have businesses operating (even if retail aren't open) you're likely to continue to worsen the situation. All those people still have to travel and be in contact with each other at work. America simply isn't taking this seriously enough, which is no surprise because we didn;t in Europe either until the death toll rose to hundreds a day and hospitals were overwhelmed. Even now European countries that haven't been hit hard yet continue to exhibit an attitude of 'We don't have to totally shut down, we can manage' that lasts right up until its too late and things turn to chaos.
To be honest I think the most likely outcome by far will be the US seeing the same situation as Italy/Spain but on a much larger scale, and then reacting very hard. All this stuff about re-opening the economy will disappear in a week or so when the death toll rises frighteningly. No politician is going to be going on TV talking about sending people back to work when the hospitals are having to let people die due to a lack of ventilators.
The problem with a federated approach is the virus obviously doesn't care about such boundaries. The US should be isolating hot spots. To date, that has not happened....
If it’s not intentional, then you haven’t done a very good job of verifying your claims. To wit:
That isn’t at all how the WHO describes monkey pox:
Monkeypox
You read the first paragraph of a fact sheet and thought your work was done. I hope this isn't indicative of your general work ethic.That was the very first thing I found when I started looking into your claims.
Particular attention was focused on it in 1970 when smallpox surveillance activities in Africa revealed cases of human monkeypox, clinically indistinguishable from smallpox, particularly in Zaire (now Democratic Republic of Congo [DRC]).
The next was a story about some quack doctor who tried (and failed) to link bed bugs and smallpox. Additionally, your stats don’t pass any sort of smell test - only a quarter of doctors vaccinated in the late 90’s?!? That certainly wasn’t my experience with a mother and family members in the medical community; we all got all of our shots on time as did everybody else. It was never even questioned.
I don’t believe anything you wrote. Please provide citations for all of it.
You spouted a bunch of dangerous nonsense then told somebody else that they didn’t know what they were talking about. You invited that sort of harsh rebuke.