Convince Me

[Daughter of His]

Well, it is very different than Christianity. We do not base our life on death. God gives us promise of a life eternal. You can live your life to the fullest living for God. I don't care for the fatalist basis myself because I think it is a pack of lies, and please don't take it personally.

 

[Valhalla]

Stay strong Carnal. But at the same time I have found it is not worth the time trying to convince christians (or anyone) to share my beliefs. Not every religion works for everyone, but don't worry, the tides are shifting in our favour.

 

[CarnalReligion]

Heh

 

[CarnalReligion]

I literally feel like im being torn in half. One side is Jesus/God and the other is Satan/Carnal.

I duno what to do

 

[Daughter of His]

Pray dude. Pray that God will help you to know He is, He is God, the First and the Last, Faithful and True. I'll kbe glad to pray for you anytime too, if.. you would like.

 

[Valhalla]

Being a satanist is not always an easy thing. That being said, do whatever you want. If you want to be a Satanist, you get to listen to Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. If you want to be a christian, you won't be a minority. Each side has advantages.

 

[CarnalReligion]

Being a satanist is not always an easy thing. That being said, do whatever you want. If you want to be a Satanist, you get to listen to Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. If you want to be a christian, you won't be a minority. Each side has advantages.

Music doesnt change anything.

Im sure listening to Death/Black metal does have a bit to do with it[ I listen to my share of Heavy/Death/Black metal] . But I leave music aside when im dealing with religion like this. Just because your christian doesnt mean you gotta listen to backstreet boys.

 

[Daughter of His]

Depends on where you live for the minority thing. There is awesome Christian rock these days, ever heard of metal?

 

[CarnalReligion]

. If you want to be a Satanist, you get to listen to Iron Maiden and Judas Priest.

Does that mean your a poser satanist?

 

[Daughter of His]

Lots of Christian metal availalbe, same sounds, different lyrics.

 

[Valhalla]

I would hope not, but I was mostly joking. I can not really convince you to be a satanist here, because I already have a billion warnings for talking about non-christian ideology in this board. Which personally just reaffirms my non belief.

 

[CarnalReligion]

Lots of Christian metal availalbe, same sounds, different lyrics.

Same thing here.

You dont have to listen to christian rock to be christian.

I mean I hate that junk .

 

[spreadlove4alll]

Any of you out there who know there bible really well and study alot. I would like you to convince me to believe in Christ and God. I have done alot of studies to and at the moment I am athiest. But dont just tell me have faith in eternal life cause christ gave his life for you. Back up your word please.

Thanks

Well, I'll just share with you what I know in MY life to be true concerning God. As a six year old, I remember my first experience with healing. I was terribly sick with the flu or something and I remember my father,who was a minister, layed his hands on me and prayed. I remember actually feeling the pain of my body leaving. That was convincing. Another convincing moment was when my dad was rushed to the hospital because his stomach tore and all of the acid poured out into his body and killed him. My brother, sister and I prayed in the name of Jesus, that he would not die(we didn't know he was clinically dead). He literally came back to life. The doctors were puzzled. My mother told me they were in the process of writing info down on his death certificate.

Those are just two of the instances that let me know God is active with those who SEEK him. As far as your question, I would actually urge you to speak with God and be honest with him. If you would just ACKNOWLEDGE the fact that you are in need of him(Jesus, the son) because you are a sinner by nature as we all are, then I know he'll make his presence known to you somehow.

 

[Valhalla]

Faith may be a good healer, but I think Penecillin(sp?) still beats faith.

 

[CarnalReligion]

Faith may be a good healer, but I think Penecillin(sp?) still beats faith.

Haha .

 

[Daughter of His]

I have to go for now, take care.

 

[nhzname]

Quote:

Originally Posted by: CarnalReligion

Instead of convincing me now. I want to here what people would have me do to get the same belief as you. Just curious.

Well, I must say this has been an interesting thread, Carnal. Interesting to see the responses of others to your questions and attitude. I think, of all the questions you asked and the comments you made, there is probably only one that will be denied you ... the one asking us not to pray for you. Praise the Lord God Almighty, who knows your needs, and brought you in here for that specific reason.

This IS long, Carnal, sorry, but please read it all ...

Now, in hopes of answering your quote, I'll give you my 'cab' process. Although Christ reveals Himself to each of us in very individual ways, we all are saved in only one way ... through Confession to others of our Acceptance and Belief in Jesus Christ. But Carnal, if you aren't willing to believe, you can't very well expect any results, right? I would say that this is the key to getting the same belief as us ... willingness.

Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, I come against the work of Satan in 'CarnelReligion's' life. Under the blood of the Lamb of God I bind and tear down every work of darkness that has set itself up as a stronghold against your truth in his life. Lord God, even now, I pray that you will place your hedge of thorns around him that no evil may go out from Him, and no evil may come in to touch him. Write your law upon his heart, that he may be your child and that you may be his God. Reveal yourself to him, Lord Jesus, in a way in which he will clearly and willingly understand and receive.

Father, I pray that he will recognize that he is a sinner, and without you, Lord God, his is lost, and without hope. Realizing that "There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." {Romans 3:23} I pray he will recognize that Jesus Christ died on the cross because of His love for him, and with His own blood, he has saved him from sin. Accepting that "God presented Him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in His blood." {Romans 3:25} And Father, just as each one of us has done, some even here in this thread, help him to recognize that now he needs to tell somebody that he believes in Jesus and what He did. Because as your word says, "If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord,"and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." {Romans 10:9}

GOD, we know that you are faithful and true. You have said in your word, "If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin." {2 Chronicles 7:14} "And whoever comes to me I will never drive away." {John 6:37} ... to all that received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God ... children born of God. {John 1:12-13}

Lord God, in the name of Jesus Christ, I claim 'CarnalReligion' for your kingdom. Because your word in Isaiah 55:11 proclaims ... "so is my word that goes out from my mouth; it will not return to me empty, it will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it." I welcome him as a brother in Christ, trusting that you will make it so.

Thank you God for your saving grace. Thank you for the confidence we can have in you, the only living God. Amen.

 

[Valhalla]

What is the purpose of missionaries then?

 

[CarnalReligion]

Later daughter

 

[nhzname]

Faith may be a good healer, but I think Penecillin(sp?) still beats faith.

Matthew 24:35 - Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
1 Corinthians 7:31b - For this world in its present form is passing away. Penicillin is of the earth - this world.