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I think the problem keeps coming back to the fact that separation does not offer the protection that divorce does, since they are still considered married.
We also need to keep in mind that the Bible says nothing about verbal abuse being grounds for divorce. This is called 'Christianforums.'
I'm not saying verbal abuse is not a terrible thing. It is a horrible thing to live under. But I don't see why the forum should allow for advising divorce for verbal abuse since it isn't based on anything in scripture or even church traditions if you are Catholic as far as I know.
Anybody that thinks verbal abuse is not dangerous is sorely mistaken. When I was in an abusive relationship, my ex's abuse was mostly verbal/emotional up until shortly before I finally left him. The OP of the thread that triggered this discussion mentioned some things her husband said to her that sounded much like the things my ex said to me. However, SOME of the things she mentioned (him showing her pictures of other women and talking about cheating on her) were extremes I did not experience with my ex. I was mostly told I couldn't do anything right, was lazy, would never finish school or amount to anything, would never be able to get anybody else if I left him, would be a bad mother if I ever had children, etc. Even without being told about being cheated on like the OP in the other thread, I was already suicidal (I had made a will, had a detailed plan of how to do it, etc). One day, I must have indicated as much to my ex. His response to that was to grab one of his guns out of the closet and hand it to me, telling me to go ahead and do it. When I left him, the extent of physical things he had done were to grab me by my arms one time and also to have shoved me to the floor in our apartment (an event where the neighbors wanted to call the police and I told them not to). He had put me in danger in other ways, however - for example, one time I had a panic attack in Old Navy and we had to leave the store. His response to my panic attack was to drive around like an enraged maniac through Atlanta, putting us both in danger and everybody else in our path in danger, too.
I don't see how anybody could recommend anything less than separation from someone who is abusive. When there is adultery involved in an abusive situation - frankly, I think it is a blessing in disguise and I think there absolutely should be advice for divorce and nothing less than that - ever.
We also need to keep in mind that the Bible says nothing about verbal abuse being grounds for divorce. This is called 'Christianforums.'
I'm not saying verbal abuse is not a terrible thing. It is a horrible thing to live under. But I don't see why the forum should allow for advising divorce for verbal abuse since it isn't based on anything in scripture or even church traditions if you are Catholic as far as I know.
PFA (whatever that is) aside, separation is not the same as divorce. Not legally. A separated woman has no protection because he is still her husband.
We also need to keep in mind that the Bible says nothing about verbal abuse being grounds for divorce. This is called 'Christianforums.'
I'm not saying verbal abuse is not a terrible thing. It is a horrible thing to live under. But I don't see why the forum should allow for advising divorce for verbal abuse since it isn't based on anything in scripture or even church traditions if you are Catholic as far as I know.
Hi Mkgal1,
I'm not getting what you're saying. Would you please clarify? Are you saying you can't discuss healthy love dynamics and working through problems in the Married Couples forum?
Faithfully,
One thing I feel is that I judged my second husband by my first husband's actions. It's always easy to look back on something and say "I over-reacted", because who's to say that it would have gone farther than it did? At that point, it was what I brought to the relationship that dictated my action at that point. Was it getting harder and harder to function in that relationship, even putting aside the throwing of things? Yes, but had I had the tools to put things in perspective, even for a little while longer, who's to say that he wouldn't have changed and considered going to a counselor. That is all I'm thinking. I can't say it is regret, but it did affect my daughter's life, and it affected the life of my 3rd marriage till my daughter went off to college and I didn't have to deal with him anymore.
A34 did a great job of clarifying for me what the typical dynamic is here, in this subforum. I see the same problem he mentioned as being dominate.
In all sincerity (and bluntness).....yes, that's what I'm saying.....that we are a bit stifled in discussing healthy love dynamics and working through problems in the MC forum.
Men are invited to join with the Evangelical Covenant Church to partner in the call to end violence against women and children. This work cannot be complete without the partnership of men and women working together. Women and men working together is the first movement toward unity, equality and peace.
Violence against women and children prevails simply because the infrastructure of our society supports it. The marginalization and devaluation of any people always makes them more vulnerable to harm. Only together can we dismantle belief systems, social structures, and institutional practices that oppress women and children and consequently dehumanize men as well.~http://www.covchurch.org/abuse/men-preventing-violence/
Along with the adverse effects that wife abuse inflicts on individuals, couples, families, and society, patristic tradition asserts that wife abuse also negatively impacts individual, couple, and family religious and spiritual well-being. The remainder of this article will seek to briefly discuss why wife abuse can have a negative impact on spousal, marital, and family religious and spiritual well-being.
Is it my imagination or are there no men in this thread except Link and I?
Is it my imagination or are there no men in this thread except Link and I?
That's good to hear. I might have been having a small senior moment.Also the originator of the thread is a male WalksWithChrist and Avneil is as well.So 5 at least men.
Thanks MK.
Would it be helpful to post our Crisis Hotlines and Resources post which contains a number of abuse and domestic violence hotlines in the top of the Marriage Forum area? This is the link from a copy we have in Ask a Chaplain. http://www.christianforums.com/t7618564/
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