Continually asking for forgiveness

[Commander]

Well, St Peter sinned, did he not? Even the Holiest of people sin! Its repenting afterwards is the most important point. To always turn to God and ask forgiveness.

To say you are free of sin because you have accepted Jesus is wrong because we are human and prone to sin.

Jesus brought us a way to be forgiven. He knows that 'nobody' can expect to live a life completely void of sin.

Yeah, sinners are incorrect in their belief(James 5:20) and they are also of the devil(1 John 3:8), you just keep on there sinning, brother. I have given you verse after verse stating the what the word of God states, and still you want to argue with it. Have a blessed day, knowing that you are self condemned, or you can repent(means change your mind) and receive the forgiveness of all sin that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ offers.

 

[Goatee]

Yeah, sinners are incorrect in their belief(James 5:20) and they are also of the devil(1 John 3:8), you just keep on there sinning, brother. I have given you verse after verse stating the what the word of God states, and still you want to argue with it. Have a blessed day, knowing that you are self condemned, or you can repent(means change your mind) and receive the forgiveness of all sin that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ offers.

Thanks, so caring of you.

Sin and repent. You cannot sin and expect that sin to vanish without repenting from deep within your soul.

We are all sinners. We fall a lot.

Repent and turn to God

 

[Commander]

Thanks, so caring of you.

Sin and repent. You cannot sin and expect that sin to vanish without repenting from deep within your soul.

We are all sinners. We fall a lot.

Repent and turn to God

First of all, you need to understand that I am trying to help you? No brother Jesus Christ made me free from sin(Romans 6:18 and Romans 6:22). I also do not and cannot sin(1 John 3:9) for there is nothing there for me to sin against(Ephesians 2:15). You do understand that "for all have sinned" is past tense(Romans 3:23). He has also made you free from sin, for he is the Saviour of all men(this includes yourself), specially of those that believe(1 Timothy 4:10).

 

[Goatee]

First of all, you need to understand that I am trying to help you? No brother Jesus Christ made me free from sin(Romans 6:18 and Romans 6:22). I also do not and cannot sin(1 John 3:9) for there is nothing there for me to sin against(Ephesians 2:15). You do understand that "for all have sinned" is past tense(Romans 3:23). He has also made you free from sin, for he is the Saviour of all men(this includes yourself), specially of those that believe(1 Timothy 4:10).

How can he make me 'free from sin' when i sin?

Jesus came to save sinners. We need to repent when we sin and seek forgiveness.

You are telling me you don't sin?

 

[Commander]

How can he make me 'free from sin' when i sin?

Jesus came to save sinners. We need to repent when we sin and seek forgiveness.

You are telling me you don't sin?

There is nothing there for you to sin against, he abolished/blotted out the law of commandments, which you think you break and therefore sin against. For sin is the transgression of the law(1 John 3:4), where there is no law there is no transgression(sin)(Romans 4:15). We are under grace(NT) and not the law of sin and death of the OT(Romans 6:14).

 

[Goatee]

There is nothing there for you to sin against, he abolished/blotted out the law of commandments, which you think you break and therefore sin against. For sin is the transgression of the law(1 John 3:4), where there is no law there is no transgression(sin)(Romans 4:15). We are under grace(NT) and not the law of sin and death of the OT(Romans 6:14).

Oh, so its ok to go out and commit murder or steal and adultery as those are not sins?

 

[brinny]

First of all, you need to understand that I am trying to help you? No brother Jesus Christ made me free from sin(Romans 6:18 and Romans 6:22). I also do not and cannot sin(1 John 3:9) for there is nothing there for me to sin against(Ephesians 2:15). You do understand that "for all have sinned" is past tense(Romans 3:23). He has also made you free from sin, for he is the Saviour of all men(this includes yourself), specially of those that believe(1 Timothy 4:10).

What comes to mind when i read what you posted is this verse.

John wrote this to believers:

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." ~1 John 1:8

Of COURSE we sin. We are in the flesh, still, and as such, our spirit wars against our flesh (Paul spoke of this.)

That's why we are admonished to pray for each other and to do as David did when he asked God to search his heart:

"Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." ~Psalm 139:23-24

We are not perfect, brother, just forgiven. And for every time we stumble, are blind to our pride, etc. and we acknowledge it, and repent and seek forgiveness, we will be forgiven.

Each and every time.

 

[Commander]

What comes to mind when i read what you posted is this verse.

John wrote this to believers:

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." ~1 John 1:8

Of COURSE we sin. We are in the flesh, still, and as such, our spirit wars against our flesh (Paul spoke of this.)

That's why we are admonished to pray for each other and to do as David did when he asked God to search his heart:

"Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." ~Psalm 139:23-24

We are not perfect, brother, just forgiven. And for every time we stumble, are blind to our pride, etc. and we acknowledge it, and repent and seek forgiveness, we will be forgiven.

Each and every time.

I did not say that we have no sin, I would call God a liar if I did, our sin is at the cross. And John also states in the next few verses as in (1 John 1:12) "I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his namesake". See also 2 Corinthians 10:3. You have taken scripture out of context, or not listed what is said in a later verse in the same chapter. The Saviour of all men(1 Timothy 4:10).

 

[brinny]

I did not say that we have no sin, I would call God a liar if I did, our sin is at the cross. And John also states in the next few verses as in 1 John 1:12 "I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his namesake". You have taken scripture out of context, or not listed what is said in a later in the same chapter. The Saviour of all men(1 Timothy 4:10).

Please clarify what you mean in the beginning of your 1st sentence above:

I did not say that we have no sin,

You are correct.

We DO have sin.

Right now in my responding to you or your responding to me there could be sin, if either of us are irritated or angry or not showing the love of God.

Tell me, what "fruits of the spirit" are you experiencing right now, as you read my post brother?

On another note, is there anyone that you have not forgiven, either now or in the past?

Same for me.

If so, i'm harboring sin.

 

[Archie the Preacher]

I do wonder how God can ever forgive me. I say that with deep sorrow as i have been a massive sinner over the last year and a half. Adultery is the sin. Can God forgive an adulterer?

From John's gospel, chapter 8, verses 1 through 11 (regarding the woman 'taken in adultery'). I direct your attention to verse 11; translated rather loosely by my own humble self: Jesus said, “I do not condemn you either. Go, and KNOCK IT OFF!"

 

[PapaZoom]

Yeah, sinners are incorrect in their belief(James 5:20) and they are also of the devil(1 John 3:8), you just keep on there sinning, brother. I have given you verse after verse stating the what the word of God states, and still you want to argue with it. Have a blessed day, knowing that you are self condemned, or you can repent(means change your mind) and receive the forgiveness of all sin that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ offers.

No one is arguing with the Bible. They are simply disagreeing with your personal interpretation. The Bible has nothing to say. Sit it on a coffee table and you'll not hear a word from it all day long. You have to open it up and read it. The you personally, using your filter, assess a meaning from the text. Jumping to conclusions without careful study is dangerous.

We all sin. The Bible understands this (metaphorically speaking). But those that have put their faith in the finished work of Jesus are already forgiven. That is not a license to sin. If we live in habitual sin, then that is a problem and may be evidence that a person really isn't saved after all. Willful, deliberate, rebellious sinning is not the mark of a true believer. And THIS is what's in view here. There more can be said but this is enough. None of us are perfect. None of us.

 

[brinny]

From John's gospel, chapter 8, verses 1 through 11 (regarding the woman 'taken in adultery'). I direct your attention to verse 11; translated rather loosely by my own humble self: Jesus said, “I do not condemn you either. Go, and KNOCK IT OFF!"

Yes, my friend, i believe the last part of that is:

Go and sin no more.

Amen?

 

[PapaZoom]

From John's gospel, chapter 8, verses 1 through 11 (regarding the woman 'taken in adultery'). I direct your attention to verse 11; translated rather loosely by my own humble self: Jesus said, “I do not condemn you either. Go, and KNOCK IT OFF!"

Kinda like this skit

 

[Archie the Preacher]

Kinda like this skit

Yeah, that's pretty much what Jesus said about her actions.

That does sound rather abrupt I suppose. But that's what He said.

 

[PapaZoom]

Yeah, that's pretty much what Jesus said about her actions.

That does sound rather abrupt I suppose. But that's what He said.

Sometimes we need an abrupt answer. Especially when it's coming from the Lord! I love the way God works. Sometimes it's a question that comes to mind. I once complained to God about a situation my daughter allowed herself to be in. All I heard from God is, "What about that log in your own eye? You dealing with that? Get that fixed first and then we'll talk."

Needless to say, God was right. Once again.

 

[brinny]

Kinda like this skit

ROFLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! Oh hep me i cain't breeeathe

 

[PapaZoom]

ROFLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! Oh hep me i cain't breeeathe

I know, right? We all need a "doc" like that. Sometimes that's all we need to do to solve problems. Stop doing what we're doing and try something else!

 

[brinny]

I know, right? We all need a "doc" like that. Sometimes that's all we need to do to solve problems. Stop doing what we're doing and try something else!

hahahahaaaa! i was almost falling off da chair.....

that's what'cha call Reality Therapy

reminds me of this:

 

[Commander]

No one is arguing with the Bible. They are simply disagreeing with your personal interpretation. The Bible has nothing to say. Sit it on a coffee table and you'll not hear a word from it all day long. You have to open it up and read it.
No, you will hear from the Holy Spirit!

The you personally, using your filter, assess a meaning from the text. Jumping to conclusions without careful study is dangerous.
I have studied for years and continue to study it, and even wrote a book on the subject-The Saviour of All Men by Barry Dennis.

We all sin. The Bible understands this (metaphorically speaking). But those that have put their faith in the finished work of Jesus are already forgiven. That is not a license to sin. If we live in habitual sin, then that is a problem and may be evidence that a person really isn't saved after all. Willful, deliberate, rebellious sinning is not the mark of a true believer. And THIS is what's in view here. There more can be said but this is enough. None of us are perfect. None of us.

Well, brother you may be a sinner, but do not included me in your misdeeds. For I was made free from sin(Romans 6:18 and Romans 6:22). For if you commit sin you are of the devil(1 John 3:8) If you are born of God, which I am and not the devil, you do not and cannot sin, it states this in the very next verse of 1 John 3:9. And everyone is born of God(1 John 4:7)! "Willful, deliberate, rebellious sinning is not the mark of a true believer." No it is a mark of a sinner, who is in error in their beliefs(James 5:20)!. "But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death(He destroyed the devil), and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel"(2 Timothy 1:10). The Saviour of all men(1 Timothy 4:10)! You do realize that he saved everyone? When he was crucified, buried and was resurrected.

 

[PapaZoom]

hahahahaaaa! i was almost falling off da chair.....

that's what'cha call Reality Therapy

reminds me of this:

exactly