Confused about the character of God

[trophy33]

What is your moral standard? The only objective moral standard is God, who says “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”

We must understand what we read. You quote a Psalm (poetry). Is for example an angry rap song from a US ghetto your source of what people are like everywhere?

Now what? God says not one us is good.

You misquote, it says no one righteous, not no one good. Also, its not God, but David, saying this.

David used poetry to express his feelings about people around him, in Israel. David did not see Israel as a people who are righteous and godly. And Paul used this song as a tool to say to Jews they are no better than Gentiles just because they had been given the Mosaic Law.

You cannot use a poetry of David to create a theology about the whole humanity everytime and everywhere, based on that. For example, Joseph was righteous:
"Joseph, her husband, was a righteous man" Mt 1:19

I recommend you to use a translation that gives you a hint you are reading a poetry, using a different font and spacing. It will help you to understand what you are reading and how to work with it, theologically. Also, let us be more careful about who is saying what.

 

[Aaron112]

How do we interpret this? Does this mean that God PURPOSEFULLY made a human being to be born blind ONLY so that later on He (Jesus)
could heal him and glorify God?

Don't interpret. Believe.
All men are born blind, dead in sin and trespasses. That is mankind , that is society, that is the world, that is the reality. All men to start with dead in sin and trespasses, with no escape possible on their own. No life possible on their own. No salvation possible on their own. So, in God's Plan, all along His Plan, He sends a Saviour, Jesus, Jesus Saves His People from their sins. From their blindness, from their death.

 

[tryphena rose]

Jesus was answering a question. Who sinned? The answer to the question is no one sinned. You are reading a lot into this that is not there. We are told "The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor." (Matthew 11:15) This is the condition people are in when God is not a part of their lives.

There are three situations when a person was healed. First was when his boss interceded for him. Then there was the man whos friends interceded for him and the time when a parent interceded for a child. This is simply the condition people are in when God is not a part of their lives. Their spiritual blindness becomes manifest in a physical way. We need to be very careful that our nervous condition does not manifest itself as a physical condition. The law of attraction people talk about this a lot.

If people grumble and complain and accuse God, then they should not expect anything good is going to come out of their negative thinking and their negative condition. What may appear random to us might be part of a divine order that we cannot fully comprehend.

In the context of healing and well-being, many faiths emphasize the importance of a positive mindset, gratitude, and faith in a higher power. This positive outlook and trust in a higher purpose are believed to influence one's well-being and outcomes positively.

Christianity, for example, often emphasizes the power of faith, gratitude, and praise in one's relationship with God. Believers are encouraged to maintain a hopeful and positive attitude, trusting in God's plan and giving thanks even in challenging circumstances.

The last thing people should do is grumble, complain and accuse God. They should give Him thanks and praise, honor and Glory when they come to see the true nature of God that He is good all of the time in every situation.

People need to put on the Mind of Christ and discern the thoughts of God. We need to quit trying to understand from a human perspective.

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." 1 Samuel 15:3

Should we still give Him thanks, praise, honor and glory when he commands the slaughtering of men, women, infants, EVEN those who are nursing infants, which is so generously emphasized here? How do you not accuse God when this act is literally commanded by Him? Who else would be to blame for those deaths? Samuel was only carrying out what God commanded, after all. Or I guess those deaths are fine, as long as it's God's doing and divine will? Can you honestly say that He is still good, even in this circumstance?

I ask this as a Christian, though one who is struggling in faith.

 

[Diamond7]

Should we still give Him thanks, praise, honor and glory when he commands the slaughtering of men, women, infants, EVEN those who are nursing infants, which is so generously emphasized here?

People destroy themselves. We see it every day, some worse than others. God gives us free will and He tells us to choose life, health and prosperity. But people instead choose death and destruction. That is their choice that He gives us all.

This is also evolution. You have to kill off Neanderthals to make room for humans. We are all a part of a biodiverse eco system than can not support Neanderthals and humans at the same time. The people could have left the land. They could have gone elsewhere. But the promised land was given to Israel and his descendants.

If you want to leave civilization and go back to being a hunter gather, you can do that. There are lots of remote areas you can go to. If you want to be part of civilization, they you have to be civilized.

A lot of people today have to serve in the military in order to get an education and a decent job. I am glad I did not have to resort to being a war monger to survive. But for some people that choice is available to them.

So are you anti evolution? Do you not believe in survival of the fittest? I was raised with the belief that you had to earn the right to live by being a productive member of society. My father worked right up to when he was 86 years of age.

 

[Diamond7]

EVEN those who are nursing infants,

Children go to Heaven so there is no issue there. They just miss out on the opportunity for what is going on here. The problem with abortion is that the parents are going to have a difficult time getting into Heaven. They have to be reconciled with the child that they killed.

 

[nightmares]

It's wrong that hateful rule breaking posts condemning humanity by the likes of Aaron are allowed

 

[Aaron112]

I ask this as a Christian, though one who is struggling in faith.

God saves all those who trust Him, who call on His Name, in line with all His Word in every way.
Those who call love hate, like nightmares in the night,
those who call hate love, like nightmares in the daytime,
those who oppose Him, who don't believe Him, who don't believe His Word,
He judges perfectly , righteously, with justice, and they have no defense.

 

[Aaron112]

Revelation 6:9-11

21st Century King James Version
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9 And when He had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the Word of God, and for the testimony which they held.
And they cried with a loud voice, saying,

“How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost Thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?”

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them, and it was said unto them that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants and also their brethren, who were to be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

 

[Aaron112]

Deuteronomy 32:43
Rejoice, O heavens, with Him, and let all God's angels worship Him. Rejoice, O nations, with His people; for He will avenge the blood of His children. He will take vengeance on His adversaries and repay those who hate Him; He will cleanse His land and His people.

 

[nightmares]

Truth is that it is hateful to condemn humanity

Truth is that it is just and compassionate to say humanity deserves love and release from this prison planet

 

[Aaron112]

Psalm 79:10
Why should the nations ask, "Where is their God?" Before our eyes, make known among the nations Your vengeance for the bloodshed of Your servants.

 

[Aaron112]

Revelation 11:18
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[Aaron112]

The Apocalypse
16:
The First Six Bowls of Wrath
…4And the third angel poured out his bowl into the rivers and springs of water, and they turned to blood.

And I heard the angel of the waters say: “Righteous are You, O Holy One, who is and was, because You have brought these judgments.

For they have spilled the blood of saints and prophets, and You have given them blood to drink, as they deserve.”…
Berean Standard Bible · Download

 

[Aaron112]

Deuteronomy 32:43
Rejoice, O heavens, with Him, and let all God's angels worship Him. Rejoice, O nations, with His people; for He will avenge the blood of His children. He will take vengeance on His adversaries and repay those who hate Him; He will cleanse His land and His people.

 

[Aaron112]

Revelation 11:18
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that

thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and

shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[Aaron112]

biblegateway.com › passage › ?search=2 Corinthians 4:4&version=EXB

2 Corinthians 4:4 EXB - The ·devil who rules this world [god - Bible ...​

4 The ·devil who rules this world [L god of this age] has blinded the minds of ·those who do not believe [unbelievers]. [L …so that] They cannot see the light of the Good News—the Good News ·about [that reveals] the glory of Christ, who is ·exactly like [L the image of] God.

2 Corinthians 4

King James Version

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4 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

 

[Aaron112]

God saves those He chooses to save, He has mercy on those He chooses to have mercy on,
even though none of anyone on earth deserves His love, His mercy, or His salvation.

The earth , the world, is totally full of evil, and wickednesses of men, everywhere.

God chooses to save a remnant out of the evil world of men.

 

[nightmares]

Kindly refrain from hateful posts condemning humanity

 

[Aaron112]

Truth is that it is hateful to condemn humanity

Truth is that it is just and compassionate to say humanity deserves love and release from this prison planet

Sin , rebellion, opposing all that is good, started with Adam and Chavah, and the world , humanity has all been consigned under sin since then.

This was all in God's Plan, His Purpose, as He also Provides Salvation , Healing, Eternal Life in His Perfect Wisdom , His Perfect Mercy, and His Perfect Justice and Judgment.

 

[Aaron112]

Kindly refrain from hateful posts condemning humanity

Who do you claim to believe, as your posts are directly contrary to all that is in the Bible?