Mama Kidogo
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Well here's the curve ball. He was dunked as a baptist years before.
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EO are not Anabaptists. Yikes!
Baptism is into 'The Church'.
God be gracious to me a sinner.
Baptism is into 'The Church'.
God be gracious to me a sinner.
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I've kinda noticed that except he just yelled at the screen and you'll actually post it.
Lord have mercy.
God be gracious to me a sinner.
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I've always thought the title 'Metropolitain' of the RO is a cool title. Pope is ho'hum, I guess because I was RC. Primate is a little better but, no offense, seems a little redundant as all men are primates.
Bwhahahahahahaha!
ROFL!
God be gracious to me a sinner.
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Through the training they receive from those who laid hands upon them and taught them.
God be gracious to me a sinner.
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Not so fast... that's not what's happening.
A person who was baptized in the name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit would not be baptized again, only confessed, chrismated and allowed to partake of The Holy Eucharist. This 'completes' what may be missing, not replacing anything.
Couple this together with the questions to the newcomer as to what they believed happened at their baptism.
It's certainly a pastoral matter to determine what should be done.
God be gracious to me a sinner.
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The understanding of salvation is very different in the EO.
God be gracious to me a sinner.
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I copied something that might help clear this up.
The Orthodox Church makes no judgment concerning the efficacy or validity of baptisms performed by other denominations, as regards people who are members of those respective denominations. The precise status and significance of such baptisms has not been revealed by God to the Orthodox Church; however, as a practical matter, they are treated as non-efficacious unless and until the person joins the Orthodox Church. Persons coming to Orthodoxy from other denominations, and who had been baptized with water in the name of the Trinity, are generally not received by holy baptism, but instead through holy chrismation, after which their former baptism is deemed to be efficacious. The final decision as to the mode of reception to be used in each case rests with the bishop. When there is doubt as to whether or how the person was previously baptized, a conditional baptism is employed, in which the officiant says something of the form of "if you are not yet baptized, I baptize you..." The need for conditional baptisms is motivated not only by factual uncertainties regarding the original baptism, but also by the uncertainty of some of the baptismal theology regarding the precise conditions for the validity of baptism. (The Church holds that one cannot be certain that opinions which are offered by pious theologians, but on which the Church has not made an authoritative pronouncement, are correct, and even authoritative pronouncements can have multiple interpretations which the Church has neither definitively endorsed or rejected.)
I bolded the parts concerning my husband, the priest and the bishop.
The Orthodox Church makes no judgment concerning the efficacy or validity of baptisms performed by other denominations, as regards people who are members of those respective denominations. The precise status and significance of such baptisms has not been revealed by God to the Orthodox Church; however, as a practical matter, they are treated as non-efficacious unless and until the person joins the Orthodox Church. Persons coming to Orthodoxy from other denominations, and who had been baptized with water in the name of the Trinity, are generally not received by holy baptism, but instead through holy chrismation, after which their former baptism is deemed to be efficacious. The final decision as to the mode of reception to be used in each case rests with the bishop. When there is doubt as to whether or how the person was previously baptized, a conditional baptism is employed, in which the officiant says something of the form of "if you are not yet baptized, I baptize you..." The need for conditional baptisms is motivated not only by factual uncertainties regarding the original baptism, but also by the uncertainty of some of the baptismal theology regarding the precise conditions for the validity of baptism. (The Church holds that one cannot be certain that opinions which are offered by pious theologians, but on which the Church has not made an authoritative pronouncement, are correct, and even authoritative pronouncements can have multiple interpretations which the Church has neither definitively endorsed or rejected.)
I bolded the parts concerning my husband, the priest and the bishop.
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This should be interesting and potentially entertaining, albeit perhaps beyond the scope of "confession."
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Mama Kidogo
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I'm still trying to understand the past tense implication of "Saved". It goes right over my head. I suppose I didn't get the invitation to that judgement thing some seem to have attended.
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