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This is the point. It wasn't us who began the deflection of the issue by attacking the source.
Precisely.This is the point. It wasn't us who began the deflection of the issue by attacking the source.
No, what we are actually discussing is Common Core promoting Islam.
We have the evidence of them promoting Islam,
While I'm not gonna hop on the outrage bandwagon, I think some of the more conservative commenters here have a point buried under all the words.
It has been my experience that larger and more diverse school districts tend to see the rule of separation of church and state in terms of Christianity. Thus, they tend to be careful--and sometimes overly restrictive--about expressions of Christianity and more lenient about expressions of other religions. Thus, these vocabulary worksheets giving a Muslim context for some English words and the lack of vocabulary worksheets giving a Christian context for some English words.
I doubt there is any intent to proselytize here; just school administrators being incompetent again and not thinking through their assumptions.
Since Common Core isn't promoting Islam, why are we having this discussion at all?
Oh, that's right, because Lying Todd Starnes dishonestly tried connect this issue to a boogie man for his readers and listeners.
Unless I just missed it you have offered nothing to even suggest Starnes lied about any of this other to say he is Christian and in your opinion is a liar.
Unless I just missed it you have offered nothing to even suggest Starnes lied about any of this other to say he is Christian and in your opinion is a liar.
Except your source doesn't really give us much of anything to look at to ascertain these standards are met (among other things)...There's no evidence connecting the vocabulary workbook to Common Core. Lying Todd claims that in the title and body of his propaganda piece, but I have seen zero evidence supporting that assertion. Here's a link to the Common Core standards for language arts. From what I can see the connection appears to exist only in his fat head.
English Language Arts Standards » Language » Grade 11-12 | Common Core State Standards Initiative
Evidence?
I have shown him to be a liar. Here's just one example.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7770733-4/#post64066095
Except your source doesn't really give us much of anything to look at to ascertain these standards are met (among other things)...
1. We know that the lessons that Todd Starnes is reporting on exists.
2. This isn't an isolated incident.
While it tries to claim that the examples given are not the result of common core, I'm guessing they didn't think of what they would essentially be arguing in the process. If we go with the source above that is claiming that Common Core isn't to blame for these examples of attempts to advance political agendas, then are they arguing the Academic Community is trying to advance a political agenda?
Are they saying that the Academic Community has ceased being interested in education and now are more interested in being political activists?
USincognito, unless you're arguing that the documents Mr. Starnes is referencing in his article are forgeries (which thus far you haven't proved), you really don't have grounds to say he's lieing.
You're saying common core isn't responsible for what Mr. Starnes is reporting on, okay then who is responsible? Are you suggesting that the academic community has a serious bias problem where they are skewed towards the left?
Apparently Common Core vocab lesson plans discuss Muhammad in a positive light, while forbidding the discussion of other religions.
High School: Islamic vocabulary lesson part of Common Core standards | Fox News
Another source:
High school Common Core lesson promotes Muhammad, Islamic faith - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com
I will call you out.
Neither of the links you provided state that the Common Core is promoting Islam.
That simple.
I suggest that if you want to start a thread claiming that the common core is promoting Islam, or any other religion, than you state factual evidence regarding such.
Both the linked threads only suggest basic educational material regarding Islam.
It would be unfortunate if you are perpetuating a lie to further your own agenda in the common core. What should the common core perpetuate in your opinion? Christianity?
3. The content of the lessons has nothing to do with Common Core.
If anyone's trying to advance a political agenda, it's whatever publishers printed up those lessons.
Nope -- more like you (and probably Starnes as well) are trying to concoct an academic conspiracy where it's more of a corporate one.
Many schools order their lesson materials from publishers; did you know that?
Did Starnes blame Common Core for the political agenda? As that is impossible, Starnes is either lying or ignorant.
Nope -- why are you saying it?
So you're saying the academic community has a bias problem and is trying to promote a political agenda?
I'm starting to think you are doing that on purpose.
I am actually just reacting to comments made by USincognito and TLK Valentine.
By saying that they are saying things that AREN'T saying? Don't you think would be a little bit annoying if someone did that to you and made a habit of doing it?
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