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Here's the most interesting part of this article that was glossed over by most;
Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of it to a Times reporter.
First of all, if an unnamed FBI associate is sharing information with "a" reporter, it sounds more like gossip. If Comey is writing memos that contain such sensitive information that is widely circulated and shared, he is again showing just how poorly he has run the FBI. The case that was laid out against him in the firing clearly showed that Comey has no respect or perhaps knowledge of the proper handling of an investigation. He's too quick to divuldge info and steps into DOJ territory on a regular basis. It's good that he's gone. But now he's trying to exact revenge. An investigation needs to be opened up about him, although he's already lied before the Senate.
Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of it to a Times reporter.
First of all, if an unnamed FBI associate is sharing information with "a" reporter, it sounds more like gossip. If Comey is writing memos that contain such sensitive information that is widely circulated and shared, he is again showing just how poorly he has run the FBI. The case that was laid out against him in the firing clearly showed that Comey has no respect or perhaps knowledge of the proper handling of an investigation. He's too quick to divuldge info and steps into DOJ territory on a regular basis. It's good that he's gone. But now he's trying to exact revenge. An investigation needs to be opened up about him, although he's already lied before the Senate.
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In an effort to perhaps vindicate Hannah T's admonishment to others to proceed more cautiously and not treat as fact the media report Trump asked Comey to end the investigation of Flynn, I present to you exhibit B:
The word "hope" could be President Trump expressing a desire, a wish, and "hoping" is not the equivalent of "asking." To be sure, depending on the surrounding context in which the statement was made, the phrase of "I hope you can let this go" can certainly be construed as a request, or perhaps a command. But, at the moment we are deprived of the context as the memo has not been made public and Comey has not yet publicly attested to the veracity of what is alleged to be in the memo or the memo's contents.
To be sure, the allegation of this comment is alarming, and if true, the statement is equally alarming. But, as Hannah T so eloquently noted, there is too much missing information to conclude impropriety and illegality. Her suggestion to proceed cautiously is wise and rational.
TITLE: "Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation"
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT MAY 16, 2017
WASHINGTON — President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.
“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo...“I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go...He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/...ey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html?_r=0
Well, this NYT article, and its author, certainly leaped before thinking! The word "hope" poses an impediment to rationally reaching the conclusion "Trump asked him to end Flynn investigation." Similarly, the word "hope" is equally problematic in deducing "President Trump asked....James B. Comey to shut down the federal investigation into....Michael T. Flynn."By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT MAY 16, 2017
WASHINGTON — President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.
“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo...“I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go...He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/...ey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html?_r=0
The word "hope" could be President Trump expressing a desire, a wish, and "hoping" is not the equivalent of "asking." To be sure, depending on the surrounding context in which the statement was made, the phrase of "I hope you can let this go" can certainly be construed as a request, or perhaps a command. But, at the moment we are deprived of the context as the memo has not been made public and Comey has not yet publicly attested to the veracity of what is alleged to be in the memo or the memo's contents.
To be sure, the allegation of this comment is alarming, and if true, the statement is equally alarming. But, as Hannah T so eloquently noted, there is too much missing information to conclude impropriety and illegality. Her suggestion to proceed cautiously is wise and rational.
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Lol! Of course, none of these scandals needed investigating:
18 Major Scandals in Obama's ‘Scandal-Free’ Presidency - Breitbart
Before the kneejerk response, there are numerous links to leftwing sources in the article.
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I have to wonder, though, if it changes due to Trump's ability to fire Comey. If my boss came to me while I was investigating a security breach that he may have been the problem on and said that he hoped I could see my way to letting it go, that would be different than if someone else did the same thing. Kind of in the same way that sexual harassment is viewed very differently if it comes from a supervisor or if it comes from someone else.
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If your boss comes to you and makes a request that you tell them you can't legally do, then they fire you, then you probably have a good case of wrongful termination.
If your boss is the president and you are heading an investigation into his associates for the FBI then it's a bit of a bigger problem.
If the stories are true and Comey would have gone along with this the FBI may have shut down an investigation into the Trump administration at their request. That would be problematic. So, the duress that the President put Comey under is also problematic, which makes his subsequent firing more problematic as well.
This is now how the government is intended to operate, which is why we will have a congressional investigation now.
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They have been saying this for days, and haven't come up with anything yet. Loads of speculation, but nothing else. So far we have 1/2 sentence that wasn't finished that ends with a comma...no context...nothing. Only thing new is theories of speculation, but nothing rock solid with facts. (shrugs)
So, yeah...nothing new.
I'm going to wait for that. The drama the media stirs up? They have been doing this for years now, and you kind of get numb to it until they have facts to back it up. So far? Nothing. You want to get carried away with speculation? lol knock yourself out!
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Oh please. lol the media implies that Trump felt the investigation would come to a halt if he fired the director? Come on! I'm not red hot crazy about the man either, but that is a stretch of major proportions!
They said it stir the pot. The drama gets them ratings. This isn't rocket science here.
Even some of the dingle butt politicians were saying he did to stop the investigation too, and it's their JOB to know it doesn't. They were not implying either.
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So tell me, what will be your response when the full transcript of the memo is released? If it consolidates the claim thus far that Trump tried to influence Comey to drop the Flynn investigation, what will be your view?
Facts? You do realise that it is a FACT that one of Comey's colleagues has released this section of his memo? It is also a FACT that this person (and others) have stated that Comey has many more documents, as he routinely created memos for any occasion in which he had conversations with his superiors.
These are FACTS. You might not feel they are compelling enough yet, but to complain that there is "nothing" is untrue...
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Not sure. He did mention several times he couldn't comment on details of ongoing investigations, though, so it isn't surprising.
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Never said he did. Just that Trump mentioned he was thinking he wanted the Russia investigation over when firing Comey.
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I am? I was just showing that there continues to be new information coming out day by day - in contrast to the claim that there's nothing new to the story.
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I don't know what my response will be until I read it. Why is that unreasonable? It shouldn't be.
Wow. A whole section! Bring out the hangman! WE A SECTION!
Section normally means there is more. Did you know that is a fact too? Which is what I said I would start to judge when that is revealed - you know the entirety not just a section. Unfortunately, that is unreasonable today. We can't wait until the entire MEMO - not just a section - is out. Okay then.
I would hope Comey would keep documents, and memos. It's his job to do that. lol did you know that is a FACT too? It's called documentation. All people in his position do that. Yep, it's a given. Why you seem to feel no one knows that fact also is beyond me.
Knowing he did his job, and you read one section of one memo out of tons no doubt he has written in his career doesn't do much. Could it be bigger once the ENTIRE thing is revealed? Could be. We don't know yet. Well, except for you. One section of one memo without knowing the entire circumstance, context, etc - things even Comey uses - is enough for you and others I guess. How sad. Maybe you need to grab his job! It will speed the process up no doubt!
I didn't say there was nothing. Read it again. I said we have learned nothing new since the story broke. Days ago. Tons of speculation - which is a whole lot of nothing - and is still nothing. That is fact too. I'm waiting to see more facts before I judge the circumstance.
You want to read a couple of sentences, and not understand the entire circumstance before judging? lol KNOCK yourself out! You can do that.
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